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♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,
WE'RE BACK WITH BILL GATES FROM THE BILL AND MELINDA GATES
FOUNDATION.
PROGRESS TAKES TIME, AND THE SOCIAL ISOLATION IS BUYING
RESEARCHERS TIME TO FIND THE ANSWERS THAT WE FEED.
WHAT IS YOUR -- THAT WE NEED.
WHAT IS YOUR MOST HOPEFUL TIME FRAME FOR HOW LONG WE HAVE TO
LIVE THE WAY WE ARE NOW?
>> WELL, THERE ARE TWO WAYS OUT.
ONE IS IF WE GET MIRACLE THERAPEUTICS THAT ARE GREATER
THAN 95% CURE RATE.
WE CAN'T COUNT ON THAT.
THE OTHER IS A VACCINE THAT'S HIGHLY EFFECTIVE THAT WE GET OUT
TO THE WORLD POPULATION.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE VACCINES, YOU KNOW, WE'LL
UNDERSTAND BY THIS SUMMER, WE'LL SEE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING INTO
HUMANS NOW, WE'LL SEE IF THEY GET THIS STRONG ANTIBODY
RESPONSE AND THEN WE HAVE TO DO BROAD SAFETY TESTING AND GET THE
MANUFACTURING GOING.
SO EVEN A YEAR FROM NOW, EVEN IF EVERYTHING WENT PERFECTLY
BECAUSE WE'RE BACKING TEN OF THE LEADING CONSTRUCTS, WE COULD
START THE MANUFACTURING.
THEN AGAIN, THIS DISEASE COULD BE HARD TO MAKE A VACCINE, SO IT
COULD BE MORE LIKE TWO YEARS.
SO QUITE A RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES THERE.
BUT EVERY DAY, WHEN I SEE THE ENGAGEMENT OF THESE VACCINE
GROUPS, I ACTUALLY THINK, WOW, WE CAN SURPRISE PEOPLE ON THE
UPSIDE HERE.
I HAVE BEEN SAYING 18 MONTHS, BUT SOME OF THESE VACCINE ARE
AHEAD OF THAT SCHEDULE.
>> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION IS ACTUALLY
SUPPORTING SEVEN DIFFERENT VACCINE RESEARCH EFFORTS RIGHT
NOW.
THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT FOR ALL OF US.
HOW MANY ORGANIZATIONS TOTAL ARE TRYING TO FIND THIS VACCINE?
DO YOU KNOW?
>> WELL, THERE'S WILL TOO MANY, IN A WAY.
THERE'S OVER 100 DIFFERENT VACCINE EFFORTS, THERE'S OVER
100 DIFFERENT THERAPEUTIC EFFORTS AND, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE
OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THIS ABILITY TO RANK THEM IN THEIR
TERMS OF LIKELINESS FOR SAFETY AND EFFICACY AND SCALING UP, YOU
KNOW, WE'RE PITCHING INTO THAT BECAUSE THAT'S OUR DAILY JOB IS
ABOUT MAKING NEW VACCINES.
AND, SO, I THINK IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN TO TEN WILL LOOK SO
PROMISING THAT WE SHOULD GET THEM THE FUNDING TO NOT ONLY DO
THE RESEARCH BUT ALSO BUILD THE FACTORY.
NOW, OF THOSE TEN, WE'LL ONLY NEED ONE OR TWO.
SO WE WILL SAY, OKAY, SOME OF THEM WEREN'T IMPORTANT BUT, YOU
KNOW, SAVING A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS IS SO
WORTHWHILE THAT THIS MONEY IS ALMOST AROUND IN TERMS OF THE
OVERALL ECONOMIC PAIN BEING CREATED HERE.
>> Stephen: WELL, BILL, SINCE YOU TRIED TO WARN US ABOUT THIS
PANDEMIC,ER AND WE DIDN'T LISTEN, WHAT'S THE NEXT THING
YOU'RE WARNING US ABOUT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FIVE YEARS FROM
NOW THAT WE'RE NOT LISTENING TO AT THE PRESENT?
>> WELL, I DIDN'T WANT TO BE RIGHT.
WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS -- >> Stephen: I UNDERSTAND.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU WON.
EVERYBODY LOSES.
NOBODY WINS WITH THIS ONE.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT -- THIS IS NOT AN END ZONE DANCE.
I'M JUST SAYING WHAT ELSE ARE WE NOT LISTENING TO THAT WE NEED TO
TAKE ACTION ON NOW?
>> WELL, THE IDEA OF A BIOTERRORIST ATTACK IS FIND OF
THE NIGHTMARE SCENARIO BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A PATHOGEN WITH A
HIGH DEATH RATE.
THE GOOD NEWS IS MOST THE WORK WE'RE GOING TO DO BE READY FOR
PANDEMIC TWO -- I CALL THIS PANDEMIC ONE -- MOST OF THE WORK
WE'LL DO TO BE READY FOR THAT ARE ALSO THE THINGS WE NEED TO
DO TO MINIMIZE THE THREAT OF BIO-TERRORISM.
>> Stephen: WELL, MR. GATES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE
AND FOR THE EFFORTS YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION ARE DOING TO TRY TO
FIND THE CURE FOR THIS, AND WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.
STAY SAFE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> Stephen: GIVE OUR BEST TO EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE BUNKER.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Stephen: BILL GATES, EVERYBODY.
BACK WITH "HOMELAND," CLAIRE DANES AND MANDY PATINKIN.
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