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STUART: UKRAINE PRESIDENT
ZELENSKYY PLEADING WITH AMERICA
TO SEND WARPLANES AND HAVE A
NO-FLY ZONE BUT JOHN KIRBY SAYS
NO, NOT GOING TO DO IT.
>> WITH THE DIFFERENCE IN
PROVIDING JAVELINS AND STINKERS
TO THE UKRAINIANS VERSUS BIGS
OR FIGHTER JETS WAS WISE AND
MORE PROVOCATIVE?
>> THE TRANSFER OF COMBAT
AIRCRAFT COULD BE MISTAKEN BY
MISTER PUTIN AND THE RUSSIANS
AS IN AESCHYLUS OR ESTABLISH WE
NEED TO BE ALLOWED EVERY
DECISION WE MAKE, THE WE AREN’T
MAKING THE POTENTIAL FOR
ESCALATION WORSE.
THAT IS NOT ONLY NOT GOOD FOR
NATO BUT FOR THE UKRAINIAN
PEOPLE.
STUART: LET’S BRING IN BRET
BAER.
THE PICTURES WE ARE GETTING OUT
OF UKRAINE ARE HORRIFIC.
WITH THAT JUSTIFIER STRONGER
MILITARY RESPONSE LIKE
DELIVERING SOME JETS?
>> THERE IS A BALANCING ACT AND
A CONCERN ABOUT WORLD WAR III
FROM OFFICIAL THAT THE PENTAGON
AND THE WHITE HOUSE.
A QUICK LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE
TODAY, RUSSIAN FORCES CONTROL
THE SOUTH.
A LOT OF ACTIVITY AROUND
MARIUPOL WHERE THAT MATERNITY
AND CHILDREN’S HOSPITAL WAS
BOMBED, KHARKIV STILL BEING
BOMBED BUT THE BIGGEST
ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE KYIV AS
FORCES MOVING FROM ALL
DIRECTIONS TO CUT OFF THE
CAPITAL CITY.
I WANT TO GO CLOSER IN.
THIS IS KYIV UP CLOSE.
YOU CAN SEE THESE DIFFERENT
AREAS, THE MOVEMENT OF RUSSIAN
TROOPS AS THEY ENCIRCLE KYIV.
A FEW SECONDS AGO YOU HAD THE
DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL
INTELLIGENCE ON CAPITOL HILL,
ADMIRAL HAYNES.
THIS IS ABOUT THE RUSSIAN
ACTION.
MOSCOW UNDERESTIMATED
UKRAINIANS RESISTANCE AND THE
DEGREE OF INTERNAL CHALLENGES
IN THE RUSSIAN MILITARY WHICH
INCLUDE AN ILL CONSTRUCTED
PLAN.
MORALE ISSUES AND CONSIDERABLE
LOGISTICAL CHALLENGES.
WHAT IS UNCLEAR IS IF RUSSIA
WILL PURSUE A PLAN TO OR MOST
OF UKRAINE WHICH WE ASSESS
WOULD REQUIRE MORE RESOURCES.
THEY JUDGE IT WILL BE
CHALLENGING FOR THE RUSSIANS TO
HOLD AND CONTROL UKRAINIAN
TERRITORY BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT
EFFECTIVELY DOING THAT RIGHT
NOW AND THAT, THE SOUTH HAVING
THE MOST SUCCESS AS FAR AS
CONTAINING BUT EVEN THESE TOWNS
ARE BEING DEFENDED BY
UKRAINIANS THAT ARE REALLY A
LOT MORE INTENSE AND RESOLVED
AND RESILIENT AT FIGHTING BACK.
STUART: I’M TRYING TO READ
BETWEEN THE LINES OF WHAT THE
NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE DIRECTOR
SAID BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE
RUSSIANS ARE NOT DOING WELL.
IT IS A NEGATIVE VIEW OF
RUSSIAN INVOLVEMENT IN UKRAINE.
>> SHE ENDS BY SAYING IT’S NOT
SUSTAINABLE AND IF YOU INSTALL
A PRO RUSSIAN REGIME TO KYIV IT
WILL BE A PERSISTENT AND
SIGNIFICANT INSURGENCY.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A LONG,
LONG WAR AND REMEMBER WHAT THE
RUSSIANS WENT THROUGH IN
AFGHANISTAN.
THEY LEFT WITH THEIR TAIL
BETWEEN HER LEGS DEFEATED.
YOU ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING
SIMILAR IN THE BEGINNING STAGES
RIGHT NOW.
STUART: DO THE RUSSIANS HAVE AN
EXIT RAMP, OR DO THEY COMPELLED
TO KEEP GOING FORWARD AND MAKE
IT A WIDER WAR?
>> THE SCARY PART, THE SAME
INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS BELIEVE
VLADIMIR PUTIN WILL NOT JUST
GET OFF THIS WAS HE WILL DOUBLE
DOWN A TRIPLE DOWN UNLESS HE
HAS PROVIDED A DIPLOMATIC
OFFRAMP AND THEY HAVE NOT
REACHED THAT.
STUART: CAN I ASK WHETHER
DEMOCRATS DID LAST NIGHT IN
CONGRESS, THEY PASSED THIS ONE
TRILLION DOLLAR FEDERAL
SPENDING BILL BUT THEY DROPPED
$15 BILLION WORTH OF COVID AID.
WHAT HAPPENED?
>> Reporter: HIS DEBATE AND
REPUBLICANS WANT TO OFFSET AND
IT WOULD NOT PASS IN THE SENATE
IF NOT FOR OFFICE FOR THE NEW
COVID AID.
THERE IS A LOT OF COVID AID
FROM THE LAST TRANCHE OF MONEY
AROUND THE COUNTRY AND THE
WHOLE SCHOOL DISTRICT THING, A
LOT OF SCHOOLS WERE GIVEN A LOT
OF MONEY BUT STILL CLOSING FOR
COVID.
NOW WE ARE AT A DIFFERENT STAGE
WAS THE MONEY IS REPURPOSED TO
UKRAINE.
IT IS EARMARKED FOR UKRAINIAN
AID AND WE WILL SEE WHAT THE
SENATE DOES WITH THAT.
STUART: I DON’T KNOW HOW YOU
KEEP IT STRAIGHT WITH THE MAPS
AND THE WAR AND 1 TRILLION HERE
AND 1 TRILLION THERE BUT YOU DO
KEEP IT STRAIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.