APPROVAL TO BUILD A WALL? >> NO, WE CAN DECLARE A NATIONAL
EMERGENCY.
EMERGENCY. WE CAN DO IT.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. BEFORE DONALD TRUMP THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY STOOD FOR SMALL
GOVERNMENT AND LESS INTERVENTION
IN OUR LIVES.
THIS ONE WOULD SEEM TO UPEND
THAT NOTION, DON’T YOU THINK?
AND NOW SOME SEE IT AS A BETTER
ALTERNATIVE THAN THE ONGOING
SHUTDOWN.
SHUTDOWN. AND SUPPORT FOR THE IT SHUTDOWN,
HOWEVER, IS NOW ERODING.
WITH 15 TO 25 MODERATE HOUSE
MEMBERS EXPRESSING A DECLIERSIRE
VOTE WITH DEMOCRATS TO PUT THE
GOVERNMENT BACK TO WORK AGAIN.
REPUBLICANS ARE WILLING TO BREAK
WITH DECADES OLD REPUBLICAN
ORTHODOX TO SUPPORT A POTENTIAL
EMERGENCY DECLARATION OVER THE
WALL TO SAVE FACES.
I’M JOINED BY JOHN KASICH, THE
OUT GOING GOVERNOR OF OHIO.
I’VE KNOWN WHAT YOUR SIDE WAS,
I’VE KNOWN IT ALL THESE YEARS.
LESS GOVERNMENT, MORE INDIVIDUAL
FREEDOM.
FREEDOM. THAT HAS BEEN A REGAN DOCTRINE
GOING BACK TO LINCOLN AND YET,
THE ONLY THING PEOPLE HAVE
AGAINST LINCOLN IS START
ARRESTING PEOPLE WITHOUT
JUDICIAL REASON AND HERE’S A
PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT
EXPANDING HIS POWER TO TAKE $4
BILLION AWAY FROM THE DEFENSE
DEPARTMENT AND BUILDING A WALL
WITH IT.
WITH IT. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT USE OF
PRESIDENTIAL POWER?
PRESIDENTIAL POWER? >> I DON’T THINK THAT’S WHAT’S
GOING TO HAPPEN HERE.
I COULD BE WRONG.
THEY DON’T SEND ME MISSIONS WHAT
THEY’RE GOING TO DO LOOK, YOU
AND I HAVE SEEN MANY SHUTDOWNS.
YOU KNOW I WAS INVOLVED IN ONE
IN 1995 AND 1996 AND WHAT IT
GETS DOWN TO IS BOTH SIDES HAVE
TO SAY THERE’S A WILLINGNESS TO
REACH SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT.
I’VE HEARD YOUR PREVIOUS GUEST
TALK ABOUT NO EMERGENCY AT THE
BORDER.
BORDER. THERE MAY NOT BE UNLESS YOU’RE A
KID SLEEPING IN ONE OF THOSE
SHELTERS, SLEEPING ON THE FLOOR
WITH SHEET OF PLASTIC OVER YOU.
REPORTS THESE KIDS ARE GETTING
SICK.
SICK. MOMS ARE UPSET.
FACT OF THE MATTER IS LET’S GET
THIS RESOLVED AND DO
COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION
COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM.
REFORM. LET’S HAVE A GUEST WORKER
PROGRAM AND CHRIS, WEAVE’VE GOT
INVEST SECURITY AND ECONOMIC
PROGRAMS FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.
WE’VE GOT TO GET THOSE COUNTRIES
STABILIZED TO WORK WITH THEM.
THAT’S WHAT WE GOT TO DO.
>> I DON’T HEAR THAT FROM THIS
ADMINISTRATION.
ADMINISTRATION. >> I KNOW, I KNOW.
>> I DON’T HEAR STOP ILLEGAL
HIRING, PEOPLE BEEN HERE 30
YEARS THAT THERE REALLY
AMERICANS NOW AND LETTING THEM
BECOME OFFICIAL AMARE CANCONS.
THERE’S NO OPENNESS TO THAT KIND
OF A COMPROMISE.
>> THEY’RE GOING TO LOSE SOME
REPUBLICANS BECAUSE THE VOTE IS
GOING TO BE DO YOU WANT TO OPEN
UP PART OF THE GOVERNMENT?
OF COURSE YOU’RE GOING TO VOTE
TO DO THAT.
THEY CAN’T SUSTAIN THAT.
IF THE PRESIDENT WAS SMART, HE’D
STOP PUTTING HIMSELF IN THE
CORNER BECAUSE AT THE END
THERE’S GOING TO BE A DEAL.
I DON’T KNOW THEY’LL EVER CALL
IT A WALL.
MAYBE THEY’LL SAY WE SPEND MORE
MONEY BECAUSE I GOT TO TELL YOU
THIS PEOPLE WANT THE BORDER TO
BE PROTECTED BUT THAT’S NOT GOOD
ENOUGH.
ENOUGH. WE CAN’T SOLVE ALL THESE
PROBLEMS RIGHT AT THE BORDER.
A LOT OF THESE EMANATE IN PLACES
FAR AWAY FROM THE BORDER.
>> HE’S GOT NANCY PELOSI, TOUGH
AS NAILS.
AS NAILS. >> SHE IS.
>> SHE SAYS IT’S AN IMMORALITY
TO BUILD THIS WALL.
RUSH LIMBAUGH AND THE WORLD OF
FOX SAY IF THIS PRESIDENT
DOESN’T BUILD THE WALL HE’S
FINISHED POLITICALLY.
FINISHED POLITICALLY. THAT’S THE SITUATION THE RIGHT
AND LEFT HAVE PUT THIS PRESIDENT
IN.
IN. NOW HE’S GOING TO SHOOT THE MOON
WITH THIS NATIONAL DECLARATION
THING.
THING. >> I CAN REMEMBER WHEN BILL
CLINTON WAS UP AT THE WHITE
HOUSE SAYING THE REPUBLICANS ARE
TAKING AWAY MONEY FOR THE
ENVIRONMENT AND EDUCATION.
WE’RE SAYING YOU’RE GOING TO
BANKRUPT THE COUNTRY.
AND SOME OF THEM CAME TO ME AND
WE SAID HERE’S THE PERAMTERES
FOR HOW WE CAN GET SOMETHING
DONE AND WE GOT BALANCED BUDGET,
THE ECONOMY WAS GROWING.
SO ALL THESE PEOPLE LOCKING
THEMSELVES IN AND THE
PRESIDENT’S GOT TO GET OFF THE
WALL THING.
WALL THING. THE DOES -- LIFE DOESN’T WORK
THAT WAY.
THAT WAY. NOT JUST POLITICS.
LIFE.
LIFE. >> GOVERNOR, WHEN WILL THE
REPUBLICANS BE GIVEN AN
ALTERNATIVE THAT TAKES THEM BACK
TO THE IDEA OF SMALL GOVERNMENT,
INDIVIDUAL RESPONSE LKT AND
FRIEDM AND NOT BIG GOVERNMENT
TAKE OVERS OF LAND AND IMMINENT
DOMAIN?
DOMAIN? YOU?
YOU? >> I CAN TELL YOU THIS THOUGH IF
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY DOESN’T
WAKE UP, OKAY -- THE DEMOCRATS
ARE WAY OUT TO THE LEFT RIGHT
NOW.
NOW. BUT IF THE REPUBLICANS DON’T DO
WAKE UP, THEY HAVEN’T HAD A NEW
IDEA SINCE JACK KEMP AND JOHN
KASICH.
KASICH. YOU DON’T HAVE IDEAS IN
POLITICS, YOU CAN’T MAKE IT.
YOU KNOW THAT.
AND THEY’VE BEEN BURYING THEIR
HEADS IN THE SAND.
>> I LOVE NEW HAMPSHIRE AND
YOU’RE GOING THERE.
I SWEAR YOU’RE GOING TO NEW
HAMPSHIRE NEXT YEAR.
JUST A THOUGHT.
>> GOOD.
>> GOOD. THAT’S A PREDICTION ON YOUR
PART.
PART. YOU THOUGHT ALABAMA WAS GOING TO
BEAT CLEMSON LAST NIGHT.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING TO