BUSINESS AS A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE EAST AND THE WEST.
HERE’S AN EXTENDED CUT OF THEIR
CONVERSATION AT A MARKET IN
SHANGHAI.
SHANGHAI. >> YOU CAN’T STOP ITS FLOW.
>> IS THIS A GOOD THING FOR
SOCIETY, FOR THE WORLD, FOR THE
BILLIONS OF PEOPLE ON THE
PLANET?
PLANET? >> IT DOESN’T HAVE THE SAME
SENSE OF HUMAN RIGHTS LIKE THE
UNITED STATES HAS.
I THINK THE WORLD NEEDS TO BE
PREPARED FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF
SUPER POWER.
SUPER POWER. AND IT WILL CHANGE AND IT WILL
BE TOUGH FOR SOME COUNTRIES AND
SOME PEOPLE TO BE LIVING IN A
CHINESE LED WORLD.
>> HOW MUCH IS CHINA STILL
REELING FROM ITS COLONIAL PAST
WHEN EUROPEANS RAN THIS COUNTRY
AND DID WHAT THEY WANT?
>> CHINESE HAVE A LONG MEMORY.
THAT’S WHY IN THE TRADE WAR WITH
THE UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW,
THEY’RE NOT JUST THINKING ABOUT
TRUMP IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
THEY’RE THINKING ABOUT BEING
HUMILIATED BY THE BRITISH AND
THE EUROPEANS AND THE AMERICANS
A CENTURY AGO.
>> THEY’RE SAYING WE REMEMBER
COLONIALISM, DON’T TRY IT AGAIN?
>> EXACTLY.
>> EXACTLY. THAT’S WHY WE NEED TO PUSH BACK
AGAINST THE UNITED STATES’
BULLYING.
BULLYING. >> YOUR SON, IS HE GOING TO LIVE
IN A WORLD THAT IS MORE FREE OR
LESS FREE?
LESS FREE? IS CHINA’S RISE CONTRIBUTING TO
THAT?
THAT? >> I THINK AS CHINA RISES, THE
WORLD WILL BE LESS --
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YOU CAN GO OUT AND WALK ON THE
STREET BUT YOU ALSO DON’T HAVE
THE SAME FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
>> WE’RE IN A RICKSHAW GOING
DOWN THE STREET.
>> WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO CHINA
THAT WHOLE AREA WAS BASICALLY --
I’M FROM NEW YORK.
NEW YORK’S ALWAYS LOOKED LIKE
NEW YORK.
NEW YORK. WHEN I WAS A KID IT LOOKED LIKE
IT DOES TODAY, MORE OR LESS.
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>> THE BRIGHT COLORS, IT’S A LOT
OF FUN.
OF FUN. THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE
PLACES IN SHANGHAI TO BRING
TOURISTS BECAUSE IT SHOWS
ANCIENT CHINA AND ARCHITECTURAL
DESIGNS ALONG WITH THE BUSTLING
CONSUMERISM OF MODERN CHINA
TODAY.
TODAY. >> SO YOU HAVE ONE SON?
>> I HAVE AN 11-YEAR-OLD SON.
>> ARE YOU HAPPY HERE?
YOU, YOUR WIFE, YOUR SON, DO YOU
HAVE A COMFORTABLE LIFE HERE?
>> I LOVE LIVING IN CHINA.
I COULD LIVE ANYWHERE IN THE
WORLD AND I CHOOSE TO LIVE IN
SHANGHAI BECAUSE I THINK IT’S
THE MOST FUN, COSMOPOLITAN CITY
IN THE WORLD.
WHEN YOU LIVE HERE, YOU REALLY
FEEL AS IF YOU’RE LIVING IN THE
FUTURE OF THE WORLD, NOT JUST IN
BUSINESS, BUT ALSO IN LIFE.
>> YOU’RE OBVIOUSLY NOT BORN
HERE.
HERE. >> I’M ACTUALLY FROM CONCORD,
NEW HAMPSHIRE, POPULATION OF
35,000 PEOPLE.
35,000 PEOPLE. I’VE BEEN LIVING IN SHANGHAI, A
CITY OF 24 MILLION FOR THE LAST
16 YEARS.
16 YEARS. >> BUT YOU DO HAVE SOME CHINESE
HERITAGE?
HERITAGE? >> I DO.
>> I DO. I’M HALF GERMAN JEW AND HALF
CHINESE ON MY MOTHER’S SIDE.
I LIVED IN THE PHILIPPINES AND
SOUTH KOREA FOR A WHILE.
AND WHEN I MET WITH POLITICAL
AND BUSINESS LEADERS IN THE
’90s, THEY ALL SAID WE HAVE TO
LEARN HOW TO DEAL WITH THE RISE
OF CHINA.
OF CHINA. I FIGURED I COULD COME HERE,
LEARN THE LANGUAGE, LEARN THE
CULTURE AND THEN BE ABLE TO
CERTAIN AS A BRING BETWEEN THE
UNITED STATES AND CHINA IN THE
FUTURE.
FUTURE. THAT’S WHAT I DEDICATED MY
CAREER TO.
CAREER TO. >> YOU LEARNED CHINESE HERE AS
AN ADULT?
AN ADULT? OR DID YOU GROW UP SPEAKING IT?
>> I LEARNED CHINESE IN SCHOOL.
I ACTUALLY HIRED A TUTOR ONE ON
ONE TO TEACH ME FOR THREE HOURS
A DAY FOR MANY YEARS.
IT’S NOT AN EASY LANGUAGE TO
LEARN.
LEARN. MY SON STILL SAYS THAT I SPEAK
LIKE A LITTLE KID.
THIS IS REALLY COOL.
THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE
TRADITIONAL CHINESE CULTURE MEET
MODERNITY.
MODERNITY. >> EACH ONE IS DIFFERENT.
>> IT HAS A RIDDLE OR GAME FOR
CHILDREN TO LEARN THESE
PROVERBS.
PROVERBS. MOST OF THEM ARE ABOUT MORALITY
OR ABOUT HAVING HAPPINESS.
>> WHAT DOES THIS ONE SAY?
>> THIS ONE IS A RIDDLE THAT’S
TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU CAN HAVE A
BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE
COMING YEARS IF YOU DO IT
PROPERLY.
PROPERLY. >> YOU’VE BEEN HERE FOR A COUPLE
OF DECADES NOW.
>> YES.
>> YES. >> HOW ARE PEOPLE FEELING?
>> THEYIT’S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
40 YEARS AGO A LOT OF PEOPLE
COULD BARELY EAT.
IT WAS A LUXURY.
YOU COULD MAYBE HAVE MEAT ONCE A
WEEK AND SOME PEOPLE ONCE EVERY
COUPLE MONTHS.
COUPLE MONTHS. NOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE
WALKING AROUND WITH CANADA GOOSE
AND MT. CLAIRE JACKETS.
CHINA IS GOING TO BECOME THE
LARGEST RETAIL MARKET IN THE
WORLD.
WORLD. IT’S THE BIGGEST MARKET FOR CON
SUCHX