>> NOW TO THE BOMBSHELL REPORT
ABOUT FACEBOOK.
THE WASHINGTON POST REPORTING
THAT NEW FACEBOOK INTERNAL
E-MAILS HAVE SURFACED INDICATE
THAT FACEBOOK ACCESS TO YOUR
USER DATA IN EXCHANGE FOR
ADVERTISING BUYS, USING USER
DATA AS A BARGAINING CHIP.
COMPANIES INCLUDE LYFT, TINDER,
AMAZON AND AIR BNB, THIS AS
CALLS GROW IN EUROPE FOR A NEW
ROBERT MUELLER TYPE SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR TO GO AFTER FACEBOOK
AND OTHER BIG TECH COMPANIES.
THIS IS THE FORMER PRIME
MINISTER OF BELGIUM.
HE'S AN EU OFFICIAL.
HE'S SAYING, QUOTE, FACEBOOK'S
MONOPOLY CONTROL OVER MILLIONS
OF PEOPLE PERSONAL DATA AND THE
FLOW OF NEWS AND INFORMATION
ON-LINE POSE A CLEAR AND PRESENT
THREAT TO DEMOCRACY.
HE ALSO SAYS THAT FACEBOOK'S
MANAGEMENT HAS SHOWN TIME AND
AGAIN IT CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO
BEHAVE RESPONSIBLY.
THIS OFFICIAL ALSO POINTING OUT
THAT FACEBOOK HAS FAILED TO
STILL DELIVER A COMPREHENSIVE
INTERNAL AUDIT ABOUT WHAT
EXACTLY HAPPENED WITH THE
CAMBRIDGE SCANDAL.
HE COMPARED IT TO THE BANKING
CRISIS.
HE'S SAYING BANKS THEN DIDN'T
REGULATE THEMSELVES.
TECHS SURE AS NOT.
WE HAVE TO STEP IN.
OUR GUESTS ARE BACK.
A ROBERT MUELLER TYPE SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR TO INVESTIGATE
FACEBOOK AND SILICON VALLEY?
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> WELL, SINCE I DON'T THINK
MUCH OF ROBERT MUELLER, I DON'T
THINK MUCH OF THAT IDEA, BUT I
DO THINK THAT THE TECH
MONOPOLIES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
THEY ARE, AREN'T REALLY
CAPITALISM IN THE WAY THAT WE
KNOW IT.
WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS THEY ARE
NOT ONLY PLAYING WITH OUR DATA,
THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL THE
FLOW OF INFORMATION.
AND THE SIMPLE FACT IS, NO
CAPITALIST IDEOLOGY THAT I'M
FAMILIAR WITH REQUIRES US TO
SUBMIT TO A BUNCH OF BAY AREA
LIBERALS DECIDING WHAT WE CAN
AND CAN'T SAY.
SOMETHING'S GOT TO BE DONE.
THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT.
I'M WILLING TO LOOK AT SOME
OPTIONS.
AND THEY BROUGHT IT ON
THEMSELVES.
LIZ: YOU KNOW, KRISTEN, FOR
FACEBOOK, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE
DATA SCANDALS, RIGHT, ARE THEY
SINCERELY SORRY THAT THEY GOT
CAUGHT?
>> I THINK THAT'S THE SITUATION
WE'RE LOOKING AT.
I MEAN, THIS IS A SITUATION
WHERE -- AND I AGREE WITH MY
COUNTERPART ON THE RIGHT --
THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE
DONE.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT A SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR, BUT THERE'S CLEARLY
A ROLE FOR CONGRESS TO ACT IN A
BIPARTISAN WAY TO REGULATE
BECAUSE FACEBOOK ITSELF ISN'T
REGULATING.
THE ISSUE COMES DOWN TO THE
DEVIL BEING IN THE DETAILS.
DO YOU REGULATE FACEBOOK AS A
FINANCIAL INSTITUTION, A NEWS
ORGANIZATION, THERE ARE A LOT OF
QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE
ANSWERED.
AND I THINK THAT THEY BEGAN TO
ASK THOSE QUESTIONS WHEN THEY
BROUGHT ZUCKERBERG --
LIZ: THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM
LAWSUITS BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY
PUBLISH POLITICAL DISCOURSE.
>> RIGHT.
LIZ: THE ISSUE TOO, KURT, IS
THAT FACEBOOK SAYS IT DID NOT
SELL YOUR DATA.
IT IS SAYING IT SOLD ACCESS TO
THE DATA.
THE ENTIRE APP INDUSTRY IS BUILT
ON THE BACKS OF FACEBOOK USER
DATA AND GOOGLE DATA.
WE ALSO HAD SANDBERG ASKING
FACEBOOK WORKERS CURT TO DO
OPPOSITION RESEARCH ON GEORGE
SOROS AFTER SOROS SAID FACEBOOK
A MENACE.
>> LOOK, I'M NO FAN OF GEORGE
SOROS AND FACEBOOK CAN DO AND
WHATEVER POLITICKING IT WANTS,
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
SO CAN WE.
AND THE SIMPLE FACT IS, FACEBOOK
AND TWITTER AND ALL THE REST OF
THESE TECH GIANTS HAVE TAKEN AN
OUTSIDE ROLE IN OUR POLITICS.
I WOULD NOT BE AS CONCERNED IF
THEY WERE NOT MONOPOLIES, BUT
THEY TRANSPARENTALLY ARE.
AND WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING
ABOUT IT.
WE HAVE GOT TO MAINTAIN A SYSTEM
WHERE EVERY AMERICAN CAN
PARTICIPATE IN THE DEBATE.
AND FROM THE BANNINGS ON TWITTER
AND FACEBOOK AND EVERYTHING, WE
SEE THAT A BUNCH OF HIPSTERS IN
SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA, ARE TRYING
TO DECIDE WHAT CAN AND CAN'T BE
SAID OVER THE INTERNET.
AND THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE, MEANING
WE WON'T ACCEPT IT.
LIZ: I'M SORRY TO JUMP IN
BECAUSE WE DO HAVE BREAKING NEWS
NOW, KRISTEN, THAT GOOGLE,
THERE'S NEW REPORTS THAT AGAIN,
GOOGLE BASED ON INTERNAL E-MAILS
GOOGLE WORKERS AGAIN DEBATED
BURYING, PUSHING DOWN
CONSERVATIVE MEDIA IN SEARCHES
IN THE SEARCHES ON THE SEARCH
ENGINE, WITH THE GOAL OF
IMPACTING FUTURE ELECTION,
KRISTEN, THAT'S A BOMBSHELL.
>> YEAH, I MEAN, WHETHER IT'S
RUSSIA, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW,
AND THIS ISN'T IN MY MIND A
POLITICAL ISSUE.
I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THE
LEFT THAT ARE DOING IT.
THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT
THAT ARE DOING IT.
THERE ARE CERTAINLY FOREIGN
GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE TRYING TO
IMPACT OUR ELECTIONS.
LIZ: TIME AND AGAIN, KRISTEN, WE
DO SEE CONSERVATIVE VOICES
SUPPRESSED ON FACEBOOK AND
GOOGLE.
THAT'S A FACT.
I HAVE SEEN IT.
I HAVE SEEN THE REPORT.
>> WELL, I MEAN, AT THE END OF
THE DAY, IT'S ALL ACROSS THE
BOARD ON THE RIGHT AND LEFT, IT
IS UNACCEPTABLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS VERY CLEAR
THAT THEY CAN'T POLICE
THEMSELVES.
WE NEED TO STEP IN.
LIZ: KURT AND KRISTEN, YOU HAVE
BEEN GREAT.