Mouni Roy: Sadhguru, I cannot even begin to tell you...
Sadhguru: Oh, you speak, I thought you're a 'mouni.' (Hindi: silent one) (Both Laugh)
Mouni Roy: Aren't you taking it a little far by riding
3... 30,000 kilometers yourself? Sadhguru: It is risky.
I'm going through the worst of weather, I'm in the European winter, and a war. (Laughs)
One hundred days. And instead of doing all this "Hi, Bye," say, "Save soil."
Sadhguru: Because if we don't do this now, we'll be doing bye-bye to good life itself.
One hundred days. Mouni Roy: One hundred. Boom!
Sadhguru: Namaskaram. Mouni Roy: Namaskaram.
Mouni Roy: Firstly, Sadhguru, I cannot even begin to tell you...
Sadhguru: Oh, you speak, I thought you're a 'mouni.' (Hindi: silent one) (Both Laugh)
Mouni Roy: No, I truly feel honored to be standing here today, having this conversation with you.
First of all, all my bestest wishes and congratulations on this initiative.
This is a huge responsibility that you've taken up.
I, you know, I come from a small town, and a lot of the grains – dal, chawal, subji –
they used to come from the village, and the quality of it has significantly deteriorated now.
So I wanted to ask you, I wanted to start this conversation by asking you,
how significant is this movement for the farming community?
Sadhguru: Tell me, will there be farming without soil?
Then, it is most significant for farming community.
And it's most significant for every human being who eats something.
Only there seems to be, or at least some people claim,
there are few yogis who just eat sunlight, and they don't eat any food. They're okay.
For everybody else, it's super significant.
Because every responsible scientist in the world is pointing out that by 2045,
we'll be producing 40% less food, and our population will be over 9 billion.
That's a disastrous world; that's not a world in which you want to live,
nor a world where you want to leave your children and go.
So, is it significant for the farmer? Absolutely!
Right now, in India, you heard of
farmer suicides all over? Mouni Roy: Yes.
Sadhguru: Over 300,000 farmers have committed suicide since 2000.
How many more should die? Mouni Roy: None.
Sadhguru: How can we even sleep on this issue?
People will explain it, that this is because of bank loan, this is because of that, this.
You tell me, if you are a farmer,
if your soil was rich, and you could at least produce food for your own family,
would you kill yourself? Mouni Roy: No, never.
Sadhguru: Definitely not, isn't it? So we need to address this.
Suicides happen because farming on degraded soil is heartbreaking.
In United States, 50% of the farmers have not made a single dollar in the last 12 years.
The highest number of suicides among any particular profession
is in the farming community in United States - the richest country in the world.
So, this is where it is. Does it make a difference for the farmer? Absolutely!
You must visit some of the farms that we have regenerated,
and see how happy the farmer is, how his life is.
Not only in economic terms, just the joy of being on the land, which is rich and full of energy.
Mouni Roy: So Sadhguru, you've taken up this initiative, but...
sorry I'm asking you this, but you are you, but aren't you taking it a little...
far by riding 3...
30,000 kilometers yourself on a bike across 26 countries?
Sadhguru: See, if 300,000 farmers commit suicide,
if still a nation and a society can sleep on it peacefully,
it needs something to stimulate people, isn't it? Mouni Roy: Sure.
So, at this stage in my life,
what do you think I am, 35, 25? I'm 65, okay? (Laughs)
So at this stage in my life, for who I am in the world, I can live very comfortably.
Anywhere I go, people take care of me. Mouni Roy: I know, that's why I said, "You are you."
Sadhguru: So, I don't really have to do anything.
I don't have to prove anything in this world to anybody.
Because I am who I am, and anywhere, any corner of the world I go,
people will take care of me, in utmost comfort and well-being.
I don't have to own anything, people will take care of me.
But right now, as a generation, if we do not do this,
we will seriously regret this, because the biodiversity loss,
the way it is happening is such, if you allow this to go for another 30 to 40 years,
it will take 150 to 200 years to turn it around.
But if we do it now, in 10 to 15, or maximum 20 years, we can make a significant turnaround.
This is a commitment. This is a responsibility.
And this is also a privilege of our generation,
because we are in that cusp of time where we can make the difference.
I think we should make the difference. Mouni Roy: Yes.
Sadhguru: Well, is it risky? It is risky. I'm going through the worst of weather,
I'm in the European winter, and a war, (Laughs)
Arabian heat, it's around 38-40 degrees out there,
in Europe it's sub-zero in many of the places.
When I enter India, I'm in the peak of monsoon.
So, I'm getting the works. (Chuckles)
Mouni Roy: But you're doing it for all of us, the entire humankind, so... thank you!
Sadhguru: Because I am a human being - what to do?! If I was a different species, I wouldn't have. (Laughs)
Mouni Roy: I know. Sadhguru, when we talk about 'Save Soil,' you're also referring...
you are referring to migration, hunger, poverty.
I just wanted another perspective of how it is significant to a spiritual seeker.
Sadhguru: Unfortunately, the word 'spiritual' has been hijacked
by all kinds of religious institutions, and they say spiritual means, "Look up."
The spirit is not in the sky - it is here, all right?
So, if the spirit has to be at full play... full reverberance,
body has to be in full reverberance, mind has to be in full reverberance, energies have to be there.
Only when this ambience is there, the spirit will fly, otherwise... no!
And ask any scientist you want, today there is a lot of science.
But you don't need that kind of piece-by-piece kind of science.
If you... if you see that you are well nourished –
well-nourished means all the nutrients that are there,
or all the nutrients that you need in your food, is there in the food, because the soil is rich –
you eat that kind of food for one month and see how well you will feel.
And only when you feel really well by your own nature, not because of something,
that is when you will always look at what is beyond this.
Desperate people will not look beyond, they will only try to settle their today's problem.
If you don't have any problem in your life, you're fine - if you sit here, you're blissful.
This is when you will look what is beyond; people think the other way around.
People think right now, people who are in some kind of trouble, pain,
in some kind of misery - they will go to the temple, or wherever else, seek God.
That is not spirituality; that is trying to find an easy solution for your problems, all right?
Because if you look at the world, all the prayers in the planet unfortunately,
90% of them are beeing like this, "Dear God, give me this, give me that, save me, protect me."
This is survival outsourced. Mouni Roy: True.
Sadhguru: Spirituality is not about outsourcing your survival;
spirituality is about outgrowing your survival needs.
Mouni Roy: So true. I just have a last question: how can we help?
Anybody who has any amount of social media following, or digital presence, or...
you know, or just all of us, how can we help and be contributing to this?
Sadhguru: See, every human being can help, because we are living in democratic nations, which means...
the only real currency in a democratic nation is... numbers.
We want the whole world to speak of soil, say something of soil,
for 100 days from 21st of March, everybody speak 'Soil.'
You don't have to say anything about me, you don't have to support me - you speak 'Soil.'
Today, we have means on the social media platforms
to aggregate all this and see how many people were talking about soil.
If political parties and governments realize
over 60% of the electorate are talking about soil,
do you think they will not make it the election issue next time around?
Mouni Roy: Of course they will, and it will make a huge amount of difference also.
Sadhguru: Because if the policy change needs to happen, people have to show that intent.
So right now, this is all it is about. The whole movement is about
getting the intent from the world, from the citizens of various nations, that...
we have the intent for long term well-being of our lives and future lives,
because right now we are consuming the soil of the unborn child!
Mouni Roy: That's true. Sadhguru: That's a cruel thing to do!
That's a very cruel thing to do, but we are doing that.
So just because you're blissfully unaware, that doesn't mean it's not happening.
So, this is where we are right now.
Do whatever - whatever you want - everybody spend at least 10 minutes for this 100 days,
from 21st of March, 100 days, at least minimum 10 minutes to enhance the message.
Just meet somebody on the street and say something about... this is a serious issue!
Everyday meet somebody new and tell them, please. Mouni Roy: I will.
Sadhguru: This is needed. And instead of doing all this, "Hi, Bye," say, "Save soil."
Mouni Roy: Save soil, okay. Sadhguru: Because if we don't do this now,
we'll be doing bye-bye to good life itself. Mouni Roy: Sure.
Sadhguru: The goodness of life will go away from us.
Mouni Roy: I'm completely with you on this, Sadhguru, and thank you so much
for taking up this cause, this movement, this initiative.
Sadhguru: Not my cause, this is because this is our planet, all right?
Mouni Roy: Our planet... Sadhguru: Not just my planet.
Sadhguru: This is our planet. Mouni Roy: Our planet.
Mouni Roy: So guys, you've heard him, and we all have to come together,
save soil, let us make it happen. Sadhguru: 100 days.
Mouni Roy: 100, 100 days, every day, 100 days. Boom!
(Both laugh)
Sadhguru: Okay, thank you. Thank you very much.