THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
MARIA: JOINING ME RIGHT NOW IS
GEORGIA SENATOR, MEMBER OF THE
BUDGET BANKING AND ARMED
SERVICES COMMITTEE, DAVID
PERDUE.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU THIS MORNING.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
I GUESS THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.
I MEAN, WE ALL CERTAINLY ON THIS
PROGRAM EXPECTED NO COLLUSION.
IT WAS A RIDICULOUS NARRATIVE
AND A LIE FOR THE LAST TWO
YEARS.
NOW THE DEMOCRATS GOT IT
OFFICIALLY FROM THE A.G. BUT
THEY WANT MORE.
THEY'RE STILL FIGHTING HIM.
>> WELL, NO COLLUSION, NO
OBSTRUCTION, NO KIDDING.
THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE BEEN SAYING.
THAT'S WHAT THE PRESIDENT'S BEEN
SAYING FOR TWO YEARS.
LET'S BE VERY CLEAR.
THIS IS A FALSE NARRATIVE THAT
THE LEFT HAS BEEN PERPETRATING
FOR TWO YEARS.
THEY DON'T WANT TO LEGISLATE
NOW.
THEY'RE GOING TO INVESTIGATE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE SEE AS THEIR
PATH.
I THINK THAT'S NOT WHAT THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT RIGHT NOW.
IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON.
MARIA: NOW THERE ARE QUESTIONS
ABOUT HOW HIGH UP THE CHAIN THIS
REALLY WENT IN TERMS OF THE
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
EVEN THE PRESIDENT IS NOT RULING
OUT THE INVOLVEMENT FROM THE
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, GIVEN THE
FACT THAT WE KNOW FROM THE LISA
PAGE TESTIMONY THAT THE FBI GOT
THE WORD FROM THE DOJ, LAY OFF
HILLARY CLINTON, DON'T EVEN GO
THERE IN TERMS OF CHARGES.
THEREON WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID
YESTERDAY.
>> I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT, BUT
I THINK YOU KNOW THE ANSWER.
MARIA: WHAT DO YOU THINK,
SENATOR?
>> LET'S BE VERY CLEAR.
THIS IS HISTORIC OBSTRUCTIONISM.
THEY SAID IT WHEN PRESIDENT
TRUMP GOT ELECTED.
IT'S WELL-FUNDED.
NOW IT'S ACROSS ALL 50 STATES.
THEY DON'T WANT THIS PRESIDENT
TO SUCCEED.
AND THEY'RE IMPLEMENTING
OBSTRUCTIONIST TACTICS IN THE
SENATE RIGHT NOW TO BLOCK
NOMINATIONS, CONFIRMATIONS, NO
LEGISLATION GOING ON IN THE
HOUSE.
I MEAN, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT
RIGHT NOW.
AND THE REST OF THE WORLD IS
LOOKING AND ANTICIPATING US
DOING SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED
TO DO.
IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THAT, YOU
HAVE THIS DISTRACTION AND THE
OBSTRUCTIONISM THAT'S BEEN GOING
ON FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
MARIA: DO YOU THINK THAT'S
GOING TO HURT THEM IN THE 2020 L
ELECTION?
AT THIS POINT YOU SEE ALL THESE
PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SPEWING
OUT THESE LIES FOR THE LAST TWO
YEARS, EVEN JOHN BRENNAN WHO HAS
BEEN CALLING THE PRESIDENT
TREASONOUS, SAYING HE'S GOT ALL
THIS EVIDENCE AND HE'S -- WITH
HIS FORMER CIA TITLE AND HIS
RESUME, I MEAN, PEOPLE BELIEVED
HIM WHICH WAS SO CRAZY.
BUT EVEN HE'S WALKING IT BACK.
SO ARE PEOPLE NOW GOING TO SAY
YOU KNOW WHAT, THE MEDIA, THE
CNNs OF THE WORLD HAVE BEEN
LYING TO ME, I'M NOT GOING TO GO
THERE HE
THERE AE
THERE ANYMORE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY
THERE'S NO TRUTH-TELLING HERE.
IS IT GOING TO HURT THE
DEMOCRATS GOING INTO THE
ELECTION?
>> THIS IS A REPRESENTATIVE
DEMOCRACY, MARIA.
YOU TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE
TIME.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE NOT
STUPID.
THEY KNOW THEY'VE BLOOD PRESSURE
LIED TO IN THIS CASE -- BEEN
LIED TO IN THIS CASE, BEEN LIED
TO IN OTHER INSTANCES WITH
REGARD TO WHAT THE LEFT IS
IMPLYING ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THE LEFT HAD EIGHT YEARS OF THE
WORST ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE IN
U.S. HISTORY.
YOU TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME
ON YOUR SHOW.
WE'VE PROVEN WHAT WE BELIEVE IN
ACTUALLY WORKS.
LOOK WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE
ECONOMY.
I THINK THIS IS NOTHING BUT A
PERPETRATED OBSTRUCTIONIST
STRATEGY TO BLOCK ANYTHING
PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTS TO DO TO
TURN THIS COUNTRY AROUND.
MARIA: ANYBODY WHO IS ON THE
LEFT, WHO TALKS ABOUT THE GREEN
NEW DEAL, THEY SAY THIS IS JUST
A FRAMEWORK.
RICHARD FOWLER EARLIER IN THE
PROGRAM SAID THIS IS JUST A
FRAMEWORK.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THIS IS
ACTUAL LEGISLATION, RIGHT?
I MEAN, SHE CAME UP, ALEXANDRIA
OCASIO-CORTEZ, WITH THIS BILL
THAT HAS 90 CO-SPONSORS IN THE
HOUSE AND 12 IN THE SENATE.
REPUBLICANS OBVIOUSLY DECIDED TO
GIVE IT A SHOT YESTERDAY.
THE GREEN DEAL FAILED THE SENATE
TEST VOTE.
CONGRESSWOMAN ALEXANDRIA
OCASIO-CORTEZ SLAMMED SENATE
MAJORITY LEADER MITCH
McCONNELL, CLAIMING HE TRIED
TO RUSH THE VOTE WITHOUT A
HEARING.
CAN YOU TAKE US BEHIND THE
CURTAIN HERE AND TELL US WHAT
WENT ON YESTERDAY.
>> THIS IS ANOTHER MANIFESTATION
OF THE OBSTRUCTIONISM I TALKED
ABOUT.
WE HAD SENATORS OUTSIDE THE
CAPITAL, SCREAMING WITH CROWDS
ABOUT BRING ON THE GREEN NEW
DEAL AND THEN THEY WALKED IN AND
WOULDN'T GIVE IT A POSITIVE
VOTE.
I CALL THAT HYPOCRISY.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE
UNITED STATES SENATE RIGHT NOW.
I NEVER BELIEVED WE WOULD BE
SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT THE
TYPES OF THINGS THAT RUN CLOUDED
IN THE GREEN NEW DEAL, OR IN THE
MODERN MONETARY THEORY THEY'RE
HE'S
ES'S
ESSPOUSING TO PAY FOR THIS THING
ESSPOUSING TO PAY FOR THIS THIN.
MARIA: THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
OP ED THIS MORNING REALLY SAID
IT WELL WHEN THEY SAID BASICALLY
IT'S GIVING DEMOCRATS THE CHANCE
TO SHOW OFF COURAGE OF CLIMATE
CHANGE CONVICTIONS WITHOUT BEING
ACCOUNTABLE TO HOW TO PAY FOR
ANY OF THIS, WITHOUT BEING
ACCOUNTABLE OF THE FACT THAT
THIS IS GOING TO COST
$94 TRILLION.
AND THAT'S NOT FUNNY.
I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE A REAL
NUMBER WHICH DOUG HOLT AIKENS
GROUP CAME UP WITH,
$94 TRILLION.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE
SOCIALIST POLICIES, SENATOR?
YOU'VE GOT THE GREEN NEW DEAL
HERE, 70% TAX RATES FROM AOC
HERE, YOU'VE GOT ELIZABETH
WARREN AND HER WEALTH TAX,
PERSON HEY
BERSON HEY
BERNON HEY
BERNIE HEY
BERNIESAEY
BERNIESANDERS AND MEDICARE FOR A
BERNIESANDERS AND MEDICARE FOR L
WHICH WIPES OUT THE PRIVATE
INSURANCE INDUSTRY.
>> IT'S A FALSE NARRATIVE.
THEY CAN'T STAND ON R THEIR
THEY CAN'T STAND ON T THEIR
THEY CAN'T STAND ON THEHEIR
THEY CAN'T STAND ON THEIRIR
POLICIES, THEIR POLICIES ON
THESE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE PROVEN
TO FAIL, THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK
ABOUT IT.
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THINGS
THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR, FREE
EDUCATION, FREE HEALTHCARE.
WE COLLECT $4.2 TRILLION IN
FEDERAL INCOME TAX AND THEY WANT
US TO SPEND $9 TRILLION BEHIND
THE GREEN NEW DEAL PER YEAR.
THAT'S ABSURD.
WE HAVE TO BE SOBER ABOUT WHAT'S
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS A THREAT TO OUR
REPUBLIC.
WE HAVE TO FIGHT THIS EVERY DAY
IN THIS ELECTION.
I HOPE THEY CONTINUE TO ENDORSE
THE GREEN NEW DEAL.
ALL THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES
ON THE LEFT ARE DOING THAT.
I THINK IT WILL CAUSE A DOWNFALL
IN 2020.
MARIA: THEY WERE ENDORSING IT
BUT THEY VOTED PRESENT.
WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT?
>> TOTAL HIP
>> TOTAL HYPOCRISY.
THEY WALKED IN AND I THINK
BECAUSE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP
SAID WE'LL ALL VOTE PRESENT, DID
NOT GIVE IT A POSITIVE VOTE.
WHERE IS THE CONVICTION FOR THE
GREEN NEW DEAL THAT THEY GO OUT
AND RAISE MONEY OFF OF AND
POLITIC BEHIND.
THIS IS HYPOCRISY AT A MAXIMUM
LEVEL.
MARIA: EVEN NANCY PELOSI, NOT
YESTERDAY BUT AS SOON AS WE GOT
THE NEWS, THE OFFICIAL WORD FROM
THE A.G. AND THE MUELLER REPORT
THAT OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS NO
COLLUSION, NO KIDDING, BUT SHE
EVEN SAID, LOOK, WE WANT TO GET
BACK TO LEGISLATING, RIGHT.
WILL THEY REALLY DO THAT?
BECAUSE I DON'T SEE A LOT OF
THAT.
YOU'RE STILL HEARING THE ADAM
SCHIFFS OF THE WORLD TALKING
ABOUT EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION
WHICH I DON'T KNOW, DID HE SHOW
YOU THAT MORE THAN
CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE?
BECAUSE HE HASN'T SHOWN THE A.G.
AND THE A.G. HASN'T FOUND IT,
SENATOR.
>> NO, AND IT WON'T BE THERE.
THIS IS ALL ABOUT DISA TRACTING
THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
WHAT'S THE SHINY OBJECT OF THE
DAY, THE LEFT MEDIA PICKS UP ON
IT.
THEY'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS
FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND
PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL WIN
RE-ELECTION.
MARIA: I KNOW YOU'RE
CHAMPIONING THIS DISASTER RELIEF
PACKAGE, THE SENATE VOTED 90-10
YESTERDAY TO BEGIN THE DEBATE ON
THE BILL.
YOU'RE AIMING TO HELP
COMMUNITIES DEVASTATED BY
HURRICANE MICHAEL.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE ON
THAT SCORE?
>> WELL, I JUST -- I ENCOURAGE
ALL OUR REPUBLICAN BRETHRENS, 10
OF US VOTED AGAINST IT BUT THIS
IS A STAND-ALONE DISASTER RELIEF
PACKAGE.
WE HAVE TO HELP THE FARMERS AND
THE FIRE VICTIMS OF CALIFORNIA
BH IS
.H IS
.MAIS
.MARIA: IS THERE COMMON GROUND
ON ATTACKING THE DEBT AT SOME
POINT, THE SPENDING,
OUT-OF-CONTROL NUMBERS HAVE
EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT
$22 TRILLION IN DEBT AND
TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICITS.
>> THANK YOU.
YOU DO THIS EVERY TIME AND I
LOVE IT.
YOU GET ME ON THE SHOW AND GIBB
US MORE TIME, WE'LL TALK ABOUT
THAT IN DETAIL.
DISCRETIONARY SPENDING, 25% OF
WHAT WE SPEND IN THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, IS ACTUALLY PRETTY
MODERATED RIGHT NOW.
THE PROBLEM IS ON THE MANDATORY
SIDE.
WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING HOW DO WE
SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY AND MILLION
DOLLARS CARE THAT ACTUALLY THE
TRUST FUNDS GO TO ZERO IN EIGHT
AND 12 YEARS RESPECTIVELY.
MARIA: WHAT DO I DO EVERY TIME?
I BRING UP DEBT.
>>
.>> YOU TALK ABOUT IT.