(soft beep)
- Not to bring it up again, but pedophiles, like,
do they deserve empathy?
Like, people who are serial killers.
- Across the board, Hitler, he's on there.
- I can empathize with Hitler.
But I don't think he's- - You don't have to
go that far. (laughing)
- Before we go any further,
30 seconds to explain the backstory.
Since 2010, we've made videos to create
a movement for human good,
humanizing ex-felons, police officers, teen moms,
sworn enemies around the world.
Just about the only people we didn't humanize was us.
As we grew bigger, it seemed like people thought
we're some kind of faceless, soulless corporation,
so a couple of weeks ago, we wondered what would happen
if we actually put ourselves in front of the camera,
instead of behind it.
What you're about to see is six of us
who had no clue what they would be asked,
so you guys maybe get to know us just a little bit deeper.
Enjoy.
(playful music)
(playful music continues)
(soft beep)
- [Moderator] I am underpaid.
Three, two, one, go.
(people laugh nervously)
- I mean, we work in media.
(people chuckle)
I mean, this is the thing, I know there's not like,
money that's stashed away that like, has my name on it.
I just, there's not enough of it.
And, you know, we all work crazy hours,
and, you know, put ourselves through
all kinds of mental stress to make the content that we do,
and we're all making, you know, like,
middle class money off of it.
- You actually pay us, like,
more than a lotta people I know.
- Yeah, that's true.
- For a media company, you know what I'm saying?
- We pay more than most big media companies, actually,
which is surprising.
- The interns are planning a revolt
because we're being underpaid.
That's all I have to say. (chuckles)
- When I was working for like, film and media
when I was in college, I never got paid for my internship.
- Not a dime. - Like, zero.
- That's true. - I actually had to spend
my own money. - I couldn't believe
that we paid our interns. - I know.
- And I think it's a good thing.
- Thank you, Jason.
(people laugh)
- Cancel the revolt! Cancel the revolt!
- [Moderator] I would get drunk with my boss.
(nervous laughter)
Three, two, one, go.
(nervous laughter)
- I think we've all got drunk with-
- Oh, John
- I'm surprised.
If I'm drunk, I'm making a fool out of myself.
- Like, if I'm carrying you out of the bar?
- Yeah, when I think of drunk,
I think of like, worst John possible.
- I actually wanna have a great time
with everyone in our company,
but I also know that if I got super wasted
and everyone was carrying me out
that I would feel really embarrassed too.
- Yeah. - I'm not 21 yet,
so I just don't- - You're not 21?
(people laugh)
- [John] We're gonna "Men In Black" Jason
right after this, right?
(people chuckle)
- [Moderator] Our company is diverse enough.
Three, two, one, go.
- I think in terms of thought we're not there yet.
And that sprung from a larger conversation
that we had recently of like, we need to check our biases.
We all kinda lean a little bit more left.
And so, in terms of thoughts and opinions on things
I think we can be more diverse.
- And we need a Trump voter like you guys were saying.
We could probably use a Trump voter.
- I can vote for Trump if you need a Trump-
(people laugh)
- We need you to bite the bullet.
No, but I actually think that there are some folks
that lean slightly conservative in our company,
but I don't think that folks,
we do necessarily a good enough job
to protect that space for them, actually.
And, we need some more like,
more deliberately conservative people.
(soft beep)
- [Moderator] I have been frustrated with our CEO.
Three, two, one, go.
(high-pitched ringing)
(soft beep)
- I just think you're a really cool dude, to be honest.
And I love having conversations with you.
And I appreciate you spending the time to, you know,
cater to my stupidity sometimes, so.
- What's the dumbest question he's ever asked?
(people chuckle)
- During one of our interviews, David was like,
"I don't understand why you guys have leadership meetings,
and I feel like I should be
part of those leadership meetings."
(Kendra laughs)
And it was like, an interview for his internship.
(people chuckle)
And we were like, "Wow!" Like I totally admire this like-
- I was just curious.
I wanted to know.
- Yeah, Jason's the kinda guy who like,
you bring him a hot fudge sundae
and then he's gonna be like, "Oh wait, where's the cherry?"
(people laugh)
Like, "We're not not just gonna do a video
about a couple.
We're gonna do a video where they reveal
really personal information, and they cry,
and they are really photogenic,
and they're ethnically diverse.
(people chuckle)
And it's under six minutes long."
(people chuckle)
- Growing up, I would come home with A's,
and my dad would be like, like nothing, just no like...
But if you get a B,
you're like, "Oh, something is going wrong."
And I'm like, "Man, what kind of dad do I wanna be,
like, what kind of boss do I wanna be?"
That's not the kinda boss I wanted to be.
And the reason I'm standing here
is because I feel sometimes frustrated with myself,
because I'm like, I know that our expectations for you guys
are really, really high,
and I think that one thing I don't do well enough is, like,
just say, "Hey, you did a great job."
Like, "Hey, I see the effort.
You're doing a fantastic job."
I'm kinda like, "Yeah, you should be doing a good job."
Which I don't think it's, like, it's not good.
I'm gonna try to do that better.
So, it's something I'm still trying to
grow into it a little bit.
- [Kendra] This is so cringe.
- I know. - Jason started sweating.
- I didn't realize every question everyone would look at me
and be like... (people chuckle)
(soft beep)
- [Moderator] No matter what, everyone deserves empathy.
Three, two, one, go.
(Kendra sighs)
(high pitched ringing)
- This is a really tough one for me.
John, something we always talk about are like,
not to bring it up again, but pedophiles.
Like, do they deserve empathy?
Like, people who are serial killers.
Like, to stand here and sit here and listen to a pedophile
explain why he became one, I feel like that's almost
a gateway of saying, "It's acceptable what you did."
- Empathy is not forgiveness,
it's not approval, but it is an openness
to try and understand why they do what they do.
- [Jason] I like that, I'm gonna move.
- And, I just think that's essential to solving problems.
I think just being open to understanding
every human that has ever existed is just essential
to being, like creating progress.
- I think all of us are actually capable
of tremendous evil, or tremendous good,
but I do think that by us acknowledging
the evil that's within us, or even our selfishness,
it allows us to be more honest with,
"Hey, but I wanna fight for good."
- For me that's almost like, yes, we do give them empathy,
but it's not like they deserve empathy,
because we need to understand them, but-
- But I guess I would say it's a human right.
It's a fundamental human right to receive empathy,
across the board.
Hitler, he's on there. - Yeah.
- I just think it's fundamental.
- Yeah, I think I can empathize, sure.
I can empathize with Hitler. (John scoffs)
But I don't think he deserves-
- You don't have to go that far.
- I don't think he deserves it.
I'm just, I feel like there's a difference there, right?
For me at least.
(soft beep)
- [Moderator] I feel like I'm making an impact.
Three, two, one, go.
(high pitched ringing)
- Hmm.
- There are so many people in the world,
who think so differently from each other
and my job is to make sure
that those voices are represented.
Oh, I'm gonna get all emotional. (chuckles)
I wanna make more of an impact.
I don't think I'm very good at my job.
Sorry, I don't mean to cry.
I just, I need to be better.
I need to try harder.
I need to do a lot more,
because, like, there's so much we can do.
There's so many people who aren't being heard,
and, like, we're here, we can resurrect that.
Sorry, I'm not making any sense.
(Kendra chuckles nervously)
- You're doing a good job. - Thanks.
- You care so much and that's why I believe
you're doing a good job.
I don't know if anyone comes, myself included,
into the role that we have ready to do what we're gonna do.
But what makes us special and what makes you special
is that you are battling so hard.
And you feel like you're not improving,
but I see your growth,
and it's mainly because you care so much
about doing a good job.
And that's gonna totally pay off, so, I think so too.
(Kendra chuckles)
- Thank you, Jason.
- We are making an impact.
I don't think we're curing cancer, but, you know,
(people chuckle) our audience is
constantly engaging with us,
even when it's on the negative side,
even when we're getting hate,
that's just at least stimulating and that's, it's real.
- I mean, you guys know our vision is that
we wanna create a movement of change makers for human good.
And I think in a lot of ways the success of Jubilee
will not be visible for another decade or two decades.
But I really believe that in like, 20 years from now,
there could be someone or a group of people, who are, like,
"I did what I did, I cured cancer because a long time ago
I saw this video, or was part of this movement
that really instilled in me
this idea of empathy and courage."
- I don't know. I mean, I-
(people laugh)
I don't necessarily go into this
thinking that we're gonna change the world,
but I do go into it thinking that
we're contributing a lot of good.
- Right now, we're in a state of the world
that I think we're so divided
that even having a simple dialogue, conversation
in some small way is changing the world.
So, yeah, like, when I talk about our vision
that's like 100-year or a 30-year vision
and what does that look like right now?
It literally is, like, let me just agree,
or listen to someone that I completely disagree with.
But, let me be clear, our goal is actually still
to get to the moon, but right now,
we're trying to figure out
how to put this bolt on this screw.
- There's that cherry I was talking about.
(people laugh)
- Yeah! But why not? Why not us, right?
Like, why shouldn't we be the ones
that create this great movement?
And I don't know, I believe in you guys so much,
like, I believe what we've built so much
that I believe we can be the ones to do it.
And I think that people see that,
and hopefully they see that,
and hopefully they'll resonate with that.
(people applaud)
- Thank you Jason. - Yeah, of course.
I got ya.
- Good job, man.
- Thanks for watching that you guys.
This was kind of an unusual episode.
We want to live by what we champion,
and lotta times, we put our cast on the hot seat,
so we're like, we should probably
do the same thing to ourselves.
- Yeah. - Just for fun.
- If you guys wanna engage in more of our content,
let us know what you think in the comments below
for future episodes, but also follow us on Instagram.
That's where we collected a lot of the props.
- We'll see you next time.
- All right, peace out.