>> THANK GOD FOR THE DEEP STATE.
I MEAN I THINK EVERYONE HERE HAS
SEEN THIS PROGRESSION OF
DIPLOMATS AND INTELLIGENCE
OFFICERS AND WHITE HOUSE PEOPLE
TRIPPING UP TO CAPITOL HILL
RIGHT NOW AND SAYING, THESE ARE
PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THEIR DUTY
OR RESPONDING TO A HIGHER CALL.
>> Shannon: ONCE DECRIED AS
NOTHING BUT A RIGHT WINGS
CONSPIRACY TO SOME NOW SOUNDING
LEGIT THANKS TO CURRENT INTEL
OFFICIALS THEMSELVES.
THE DIRECTOR IS SAYING THAT
AMERICANS SHOULD BE THANKFUL FOR
THE DEEP STATE.
JOHN BRENNAN WAS ALSO THERE
EMBRACING THE CONCEPT.
LET'S TURN TO FORMER DEPUTY
ASSISTANT ATTORNEY JOHN YOU, FOR
MORE.
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" TALKING
ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE
DEEP STATE SAYS THE DEEP STATE
HAS EMERGED FROM THE SHADOWS IN
THE FORM OF REAL-LIFE
GOVERNMENTAL OFFICIALS PAST AND
PRESENT WHO HAVE DEFIED AN
ATTEMPT AND PROVIDED EVIDENCE
THAT LARGELY BACKS UP THE STILL
ANONYMOUS WHISTLE-BLOWER.
>> I THINK THERE IS UNDENIABLY A
BREAK NOW BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT
AND THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY.
BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S BECAUSE
THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY IS
NECESSARILY SAFEGUARDING THEIR
PUBLIC FORM A ROGUE PRESIDENT.
I THINK THIS BREAK GOES BACK TO
THE VERY BEGINNINGS OF TRUMPS
ENTRY INTO OFFICE WHERE THE HEAD
OF THE FBI JIM COMEY
DELIBERATELY TRIED TO PROVOKE
THE PRESIDENT INTO TAKING STEPS
OF THE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE
BRENNAN AND JIM KLAPPER GOING
OUT ON TELEVISION AND I CAN'T
THINK OF A TIME WHERE THAT'S
HAPPENED BEFORE.
SO BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE THAT I
DON'T NECESSARILY BLAME
PRESIDENT TRUMP FROM BEING
SUSPICIOUS OF THE INTELLIGENCE
COMMUNITY AND WHETHER IT'S
ACTUALLY TRYING TO OPPOSE HIS
AGENDA.
>> Shannon: IN THE MEANTIME AT
THAT INTENTION UP THERE AS IT
WERE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT JOHN
DURHAM WHO IS CONDUCTING A PROBE
INTO THE ORIGINS OF THE RUSSIAN
INVESTIGATION, WE ARE TOLD HE
PLANS TO INTERVIEW FOLKS LIKE
BRENNAN AND KLAPPER.
>> THAT CERTAINLY COULD BE
LEGITIMATE OR WHAT YOU WOULD
EXPECT, IF IT'S LOOKING INTO
ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT
WENT DOWN IN TERMS OF HOW THE
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE
INVESTIGATION WAS CONDUCTED, THE
ORIGINAL PREDICATE FOR IT AND
WHETHER OR NOT THE RULES WERE
FOLLOWED AND COMPLIED WITH, I
HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
BUT IN THE END, WHAT
JOHN BRENNAN WAS SAYING, THEY
ARE PLAYING INTO THE PRESIDENT'S
GAME BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT GETS
UNDER THE PRESIDENT'S SKIN.
THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN TALKING
ABOUT THE DEEP STATE FOR THREE
YEARS AND YOU SAY SURE, WE ARE
THE BIG, EVIL, DEEP STATE.
WATCH OUT, WE ARE LIKE THE
BOOGIE MAN.
>> Shannon: WHILE THE FOLKS
OUT THERE WHO HAVE BEEN TALKING
ABOUT IT FOR MONTHS IF NOT
YEARS, LET'S TALK ABOUT TIMOTHY
MORRISON.
WE WILL HAVE A FEW MORE OF THESE
DEPOSITIONS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS
AND BEFORE THE DEMOCRATS TAKE
THIS PUBLIC THE NEXT PHASE OF
THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEBATE
OVER TIMOTHY MORRISON'S
TESTIMONY.
HERE'S SOMETHING WE ARE TOLD
THAT HE SAID.
FOX OBTAINED PART OF HIS OPENING
STATEMENT.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR, IT WAS
I WANT TO BE CLEAR, IT IAS
I WANT TO BE CLEAR, IT I WAS NOT
CONCERNED THAT ANYTHING ILLEGAL
WAS DISCUSSED.
HE KIND OF DEFINES THE WHOLE
ARGUMENT HERE.
>> I THINK THAT'S TOO NARROW OF
AN UNDERSTANDING OF IMPEACHMENT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMMIT A CRIME
TO BE IMPEACHED.
TREASON, BRIBERY, I CRIMES AND
MISDEMEANORS, AND THINK THEY
THOUGHT THAT WAS ABUSE OF POWER.
ON THE OTHER HAND I DON'T THINK
MORRISON ADDS THAT MUCH NEW.
I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE THE
FACTS OF WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE
OF A WHITE HOUSE RELEASE OF THE
PHONE TRANSCRIPT.
IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS SOME
KIND OF A IMPLICIT QUID PRO QUO.
MILITARY AID IN EXCHANGE FOR THE
UKRAINE STARTING SOME KIND OF
EXPECTATION.
THE REAL QUESTION THAT WE OUGHT
TO BE DEBATING IS NOT WHETHER
SOMEONE WAS ON THE CALL WERE NOT
ON THE CALL BUT IT IS THIS.
HIGH CRIME AND MISDEMEANORS
WORTHY ENOUGH TO REMOVE A
PRESIDENT WITHIN THE GEAR OF THE
THE ELECTION.
>> Shannon: THE WASHINGTON
EDITORIAL BOARD TO YOUR POINT,
DEMOCRATS WANT TO -- ALTHOUGH
THE PROBE NEVER HAPPENED, AND
HELD ONTO CORRUPTION THAT IN THE
END WAS NEVER WITHHELD.
>> IS THE PRESIDENT SO SPECIAL
THAT HE'S EXEMPT FROM THE SAME
KIND OF CRIMINAL ELEMENTS THAT
WE USUALLY USED TO PUT PEOPLE IN
JAIL?
IT'S CALLED A CONSPIRACY CHARGE.
WE HAVE PEOPLE IN JAIL THAT
NEVER SUCCESSFULLY COMMITTED THE
CRIME, THEY STILL TRIED.
IF THEY ARE SAYING HE'S TOO
INEPT TO PULL IT OFF, HE IS
STILL THE PRESIDENT.
SO UNLESS WE TAKE AWAY HIS
AUTHORITY, THEN YOU DON'T GET
THE BIG SPECIAL RULE BECAUSE YOU
ARE INCOMPETENT.
>> Shannon: I DON'T THINK WHAT
YOU WERE SAYING WAS BAD BUT JUST
THAT NONE OF THIS CAME TO