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The notion of data services has been around
for a long time, but it is being up-ended,
recast, reformed, as a consequence of what cloud can do.
But that also means that cloud is creating new ways
of thinking about data services, new opportunities
to introduce and drive this powerful approach
of thinking about digital businesses centralized assets
and to have that conversation about what that means,
we've got Chadd Kenney, who is a VP and chief technologist
of Clumio with us today.
Chad, welcome to theCube.
>> Thanks so much for having me.
>> Okay, so let's start with that notion of
data services, and the role the cloud is going to play.
Clumio has looked at this problem,
or looked at this challenge from the ground up.
What does that mean?
>> So if you look at the cloud as a whole,
customers have gone through a significant journey.
We've seen the first shadow IT kind of play out,
where the people decided to go to the cloud,
IT was too slow.
It moved into kind of a cloud first movement,
where people realized the power of cloud services.
That then got them to understand a little bit
of interesting things that have played out.
One, moving applications as they exist
were not very efficient,
and so they needed to re-architect certain applications.
Second, SaaS was a core way of getting to the cloud
in a very simplistic fashion without having
to do much whatsoever, and so for applications
that were not core competencies,
they realized they should go Saas
and for anything that was a core competency,
they needed to really re-architect
to be able to take advantage of those
very powerful cloud services.
And so when you look at it, if people were to develop
applications today, cloud is the default
that you'd go toward.
And so for us, we had the luxury of building
from the cloud up on the very powerful cloud services
to enable a much more simple model
for our customers to consume,
but even more so, to be able to actually leverage
the agility and elasticity of the cloud.
Think about this for a quick second,
we can take facilities, break them up,
expand them across many different compute resources
within the cloud, versus having to take kind of what you did
on Prim in a single server, or multitudes of servers,
and try to plant that in the cloud.
From a customer's experience perspective,
it's vastly different.
You get a world where you don't think about
how you manage the infrastructure,
how you manage the service, you just consume it,
and the value that customers get out of that,
is not only getting their data there,
which is the on-ramp around our data protection mechanisms,
but also being able to leverage cloud-native services
on top of that data in the longer term,
as we have this one common global index and platform.
What we are super excited today to announce
is that we are adding in AWS native capabilities
to be able to protect that data in the public cloud.
And this is kind of the default place
where most people go to from a cloud perspective,
to really get their applications up and running
and take advantage of a lot of those cloud-native services.
>> Well, if you're going to be cloud native
and promise to customers is you are going to
support their workload, you've got to be, obviously,
on AWS.
So congratulations on that.
Let's go back to this notion of,
you used the word powerful.
AWS is a mature platform.
GCP is coming along very rapidly.
Azure is, you know, also very, very good,
and there are others as well,
but sometimes enterprises discover
that they have to make some trade-offs.
To get the simplicity, they have to get less function.
To get the reliability, they have to get rid of simplicity.
How does Clumio think through those trade-offs
to deliver that simple, that powerful,
that reliable platform for something as important
as data protection and data services in general?
>> So we wanted to create an experience
that was single click, discover everything,
and be able to help people consume that service quickly.
And if you look at the problem that people are dealing with,
customers talk to us about this all the time
is the power of the cloud resulted in 100s if not 1000s
of accounts within AWS.
And now you get into a world where you are having
to try to figure out how to I manage all these for one,
discover all of it,
and consistently make sure that my data,
which as you mentioned, is incredibly important
to businesses today, is protected.
And so having that one common view
is incredibly important to start with.
And the simplicity of that is immensely powerful.
When you look at what we do as a business
to make sure that that continues to occur
is first we leverage cloud-native services
on the back, which are complex,
and getting those things to run and orchestrate
are things that we build on the back-end.
On the front-end, we take the customer's view
in looking at what is the most simple way
of getting this experience to occur
for both discovery, as well as, you know
backup, recovery, and even being able to search
in a global fashion.
And so really taking their seats to figure out
what would be the easiest way to both consume the service
and then also be able to get value from it
by running that service.
>> AWS has been around, well, AWS in many respects
founded the cloud industry.
It is certainly sales force on the Saas side,
but AWS was that first company
to make the promise that it was going to provide
this very flexible, very powerful,
very agile infrastructure as a service.
And they have done an absolutely marvelous job about it.
And they have also advanced the state of the art
of the technology dramatically
and in many respects are in the driver's seat.
What trade-offs, what limits does your new platform face
as it goes to AWS or is it the same Clumio experience
adding now all of the capabilities of AWS?
>> That's a great question because I think a lot of solutions
out there today are different parts and pieces
kind of clumped together.
What we built is a platform that these new services
just get instantly added, next time you log in
to that service, you will see that available to you,
and you can just go ahead and log in to your accounts
and be able to discover directly.
And I think that the power of SaaS is really that.
Not only have we made it immensely secure,
which is something that people think about
quite a bit,
with having not only data in flight
but data at rest encryption,
and leveraging really the cloud capabilities
of security,
but we have made it incredibly simple for them
to be able to consume that easily,
literally not lift a finger to get anything done,
it's available for you when you log into that system.
And so, having more and more data sources
in one single pane of glass,
and being able to see all of the accounts,
especially in AWS where you have quite a few
of those accounts,
and to be able to apply polices in a consistent fashion
to ensure that you are, you know, compliant
within the environment for whatever business requirements
that you have around data protection,
is immensely powerful to our customers.
>> Chadd Kenney, chief technologist, Clumio,
thanks very much for being on theCube.
>> Thank you.
>> And thanks for joining us for another Cube conversation.
I'm Peter Burris, see you next time.
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