- Well it looks like the next generation,
next level E-bikes are with us,
and tonight, we'll be looking at the elements
behind these bikes.
- It finally looks like we have our own E-bike World Series
in the pipeline.
- And Chris, what's this about E-bikes
being bad for your health?
What a load of nonsense.
(upbeat music)
Right, in this week blogger David Hembrow
from the Netherlands claims that E-biking
is actually bad for your health.
That's quite interesting um, comment, but..
- [Chris] Definitely. - Basically,
I don't know where he gets his facts
from, but ultimately, I suppose,
if you ride an E-Bike in the city then, you know,
there's a lot of dangers involved in E-Bikes, the city,
you know, there's lots of deaths on bicycles full stop,
but to claim that E-bikes are bad for your health,
I think is a little bit unfounded,
because ultimately, as we've talked about many times
on the show, it's up to the rider
how much effort you put into your peddling, right?
- Exactly, he's basically saying that any rider that rides
an E-bike isn't doing any work, you know, not peddling hard.
- Yeah, yeah.
- And negates if you are riding a standard bike,
you know, that offset and.
- Yeah, and also, if you think about it,
if you actually ride it in a city,
that's probably less healthy for you
than riding in the countryside in the first place,
so it all depends.
There are so many variables involved in this
- Definitely, yeah.
- You can't make that generalization
that E-Bikes are bad for your health.
- No, and I think there's E-bikes,
and there's E-mountain bikes which is a total different,
you know, an E-Bike in the city,
you pull it in around behind cars,
stop starting, whereas on E-mountain bike,
as we all know, is big mountains,
getting out there in the woods, working hard,
pushing those pedals and going further.
- Do you know what, I'm actually looking forward
to taking some city E-bikes to the mountains as well.
- I can't wait for that.
(laughs)
- Chris, what's this about Sam Pilgrim up to his old tricks?
- Yeah, we saw Sam Pilgrim out at Audi Nines event
this has wrapped up this week.
- Can you tell me what Nines means?
- I have no idea.
It was Nine Nights before.
- Oh, there you go.
- Back then it was a different car manufacturer,
it all changed so God knows what that means.
But yeah, Sam was out there competing
on his E-bike against people on downhill bikes,
slope style bikes, jump bikes.
What was really cool was Sam landed two or three
world's firsts, I think.
Including this one.
- More world firsts!
- Front flip tuck no-hander, - Call Youtube.
- which is really impressive,
and he actually won Ruler of the Week,
so he like ruled the whole event on his E-bike
and his jump bike combined.
So... - Really?
- [Chris] beat all those guys.
- Wow, I didn't know that.
- Real good impressive stuff from Sam, mixing it up
with all those boys, first E-bike win
at a major event as well.
That's another world first for ya.
- Good work, Pilgrim.
Really cool video from Husqvarna this week in Earlsburg.
What do these two guys have in common?
- [Chris] (laughs) I saw that. - Did you see it?
- [Chris] It's pretty cool, yeah, yeah.
Good mix of motorcross and mountain bikes combined,
always a good mix.
- Yeah. I tell you what, it's busy old week in the news.
Talking about Husqvarna, our friends out in Tahiti,
Mehdi Gabrillargues, looks like he swapped from
Haibike over to Husqvarna quite recently,
and there's some good footage of him
and his mates tearing down the volcano
out in the... - [Chris] Saw that.
Super impressive stuff.
- [Steve] South Pacific? Where is Tahiti?
- [Chris] No idea. I don't know geography.
- [Steve] It looks great, the climbing looks great.
I'd love to get out there and ride
on an E-bike one day.
- Okay, cool.
- What else do we got in the news, Chris?
What about Wilkins and Comb?
Mucking about - [Chris] Yeah.
- [Steve] on their new Focus bikes?
- [Chris] Really cool, like, video where they've edited,
like swapping across one to the E-bike flicking across,
and it just shows you how capable that E-Bike is as well.
- I tell you what, later on in the show,
I did see a new Focus Bike, which was, was it called
a Gripper or something like that?
- Drifter.
- Drifter, let's have a look at that later on in the show.
Looks pretty cool.
So, been lots of action on the racing front this weekend,
on the E-Bikes, it seems that Haibike engineer
Heiko Redecker came second in the Enduro1 series
on the weekend.
- I saw he swapped a load of stuff around on his bike,
added a 29er front wheel, got 2x2 by system,
added a 1 by on there, so all of these little insider hacks.
- It's all about the strategy, Chris.
- Exactly.
- Yeah.
- Also on the racing front we got the Boogaloo Race Series
going on out in the States, big four race, class one
E-bike series, and with the Mammoth Mountain stage.
- Yeah, Northstar on the weekend, right?
- Northstar at the weekend.
- This is like a Troy Lee Designs and Bosch collaboration.
- Some big sponsors in there.
Yeah it looks really good fun. All big uphill climbs,
downhill sections, a lot.
- Are you heading over to Mammoth this weekend, then, Chris?
- Unfortunately not. Are you over there or not?
- It's a bit weird, Mammoth Mountain.
- Is it?
- Yes, really high up.
Makes you dizzy.
(laughter)
Anyhow, more race news is, the big news,
the biggest news this week, it seems
that there's going to be an
E-mountain bike world series heading.
Now it seems like the launch of this is going to be
on October 1st in Monaco, so we haven't really got
many details on what exactly is happening,
but I'm hoping that it's going to be all continents.
- Yeah.
- All classes. - It's gonna be so good.
Yeah it's just a holding page in 'em isn't it?
- It seems to be a holding page,
so it looks likes there's almost a gravel bike
as the key image but obviously it's not going to be
a gravel series.
It's going to be a mountain bike series.
- Yeah, I can't wait for that.
- From what I hear, all the, a lot of the federations,
some big brands are involved, so...
- Could be the big step forward we're looking for, then.
- Well it could be, yeah. So I'm definitely looking forward
to going and doing some racing.
- Oh yeah, for sure.
- But yeah, I wonder though, Chris, is it going to be
you know, northern hemisphere, southern hemisphere, Africa,
Asia, North America, Europe?
- Worldwide, surely.
- It's gotta be, right?
If they call it a world, you know, world E-bike series.
- Rounds at least every or all, I don't know, European,
your guess is as good as mine on that,
but I'm looking forward to it.
- Yeah and we'll find out more of that on October the first,
so keep tuned.
(electronic music)
- So Steve, isn't there even more important news
we should be talking about, right?
There's a big new bike come out?
- There is more important news.
Sadly, Phillip is leaving at the end of this week.
- Ah, I did hear that.
- And honestly, Philo it's been great,
had some great times and...
- I think we need a little montage for this,
don't we, surely. (laughter) - Phil thanks.
Thanks for putting up with me over the months.
But hey we'll have a couple of beers end of the week, right?
- [Phillip] Are you trying to say I was easy?
(laughter)
(record scratch)
- Moving on to more bike related news.
- Bingo, come on, bike delays.
- Bike related news. - Specialized.
The new Levo, right?
- Right.
- Talk to me about it, come on.
- [Steve] What do you want to know, Christopher?
- [Chris] I want to know is it better than the old Levo?
- [Steve] Is it better than the old Levo?
Well, I mean that's all relative isn't it.
If you think about it, there's some very basic things.
It's thinner and it's lighter.
- Those are two euros, so. - Right, how much lighter?
- So basically, you're looking at 19 and a half kilos...
- Whoa.
for one of the S works bikes.
but like, visually, so the battery's now in the down tube,
you know, it doesn't detach or anything,
and that if you look side on to the bike,
it is so skinny, it's so slim.
- [ Chris] Right.
- Looks amaze...
Hard to differentiate between the E-bike
from the non E-bike and... - Yeah,
- You know, you're asking is it better?
So, 700 watt/hour battery.
- Exactly. - Is that better?
- For sure, more range.
- Well, it kind of is, I like to do more riding,
but maybe for some riders who go out for an hour,
maybe it's not so good,
but from mindstead, 700 watt hours, it's massive.
- More is definitely better for most bikes.
- Sizing, you know, there's better sizing on it.
- Right.
- So, you know, reach now
for extra large riders up to 485 I think.
- They've redone the motor,
there's a different version of the motor?
- Yeah, the motor is lighter
and it's 20% more, 20% smaller.
So that means that the whole thing is visually more compact.
- More power?
- They've got more power in it,
and also, it's not just about the motor and the battery,
it's how the motor, the battery
and the controls operate together.
How... - Right.
- So remember, it might be a Brose motor,
but it's the specialized.
- Software.
- Behind the software
that gets the best out of that motor.
- Right.
- And I think things like Smart Control,
which you can use on mission control,
and there's an app left- what's it called?
It's called shuttle.
There's a shuttle mode on it, right?
- [Chris] Right.
- So you basically hit shuttle mode
and it means it takes you to the top of the hill
as quick as possible.
- Really, what...
- Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Colors, it looks beautiful.
- [Chris] Yeah.
But Chris, I could rattle on all day
about the new Specialized.
It is incredible.
- Gonna sound good, this sounds amazing, can't wait
- It's an incredible bike.
But look, don't listen to me.
There's a video we've just done on the channel.
- Oh cool.
- Check it out down there.
- Right.
(electronic sound effects)
- Now with the launch of this new Specialized Levo,
I guess it does beg the question
is are we at a stage where these are the next level,
next generation of E-bikes.
- We're getting there. We're getting there for sure.
Definitely getting there.
- What you gotta realize is these manufacturers now
are working on the next level bikes in two years time,
because remember two years ago, talking to Specialized Moab,
and they predicted this current bike would be happening so,
But look, you gotta look at the last few years.
There's been some great stuff like the Focus,
the Focus Jam with the thinned down tube,
it visually looks really good,
even though the battery is kind of small.
- Yeah.
- Then you got the Merida, you got the Mustache,
bikes with really good componentry.
- Obviously moving forward towards this year,
we have the Canyon with a different sized wheel
that was really progressive.
Obviously, that went super light weight as well.
- Yeah.
- Shaved quite a few kilos off.
- But also, that is the first ever direct sales e-bike.
- Yeah, of course, that changes a hell of a lot as well.
- And then there's Euro Bike.
We all know what happened at Euro Bike.
- Got to fly on introduce the new Haibike.
That big techy motor as well.
120 Newton Meters of
- Again that was a 700 watt battery as well.
I think that was, you know one of the stand-out bikes...
- Yeah
- of the summer.
- Oh yeah.
- And now we have the Specialized.
So, where are we at with weight, do ya think?
- Weight, obviously for Zero coming with their new
motor and battery system combined shaved a lot of weight
off of those bikes, I think,
what was the lightest one we saw last year, the Bulls
was 15.9 kilograms for an E-bike with that Fazua motor.
- That's very light.
So, obviously, the new Specialized Levo is
19 and a half kilos, but Chris, is lighter better?
Is heavier better?
What's your thoughts on that?
- I think we could maybe lose two kilos from where we
are at the minute, but I wouldn't want to see like
super light-weight, back to where we are with the
- What do ya reckon optimum E-bike weight is?
- 22 kilos, something like that, I reckon.
- Hold on a minute.
- 2 kilos lighter than we are.
- Now hold on, the Specialized is 19 and a half kilos,
what are you talking about?
- Now hold a sec, I'm gonna reserve judgements,
not hit the trails on that.
So it's not all about weight, Steve is it?
There's visuals as well.
- Well there is.
- There's some ugly ducklings out there, come on.
- Well, you look at the Orange Alpine 6E,
fantastic geometry, on that bike, but visually?
No, she's not, ya know I think there's some
some way to go on that one. - Good looking.
There are some good looking E-bikes out there, obviously
with how deform it with technology and all that stuff
but let's talk about batteries.
- Battery. Okay so where we're at with batteries
is you got, as you said, Focus, 370 watt an hour.
You got the Rocky Mountain which is 680
then you've got the new Specialized, 700 watt/hr
as lot as well as the Haibike too
so there is a big range out there.
Plus the Fazua.
- [Chris] Yeah the Fazua, obviously
we talked about that as well.
That all combined weight is slimmed down a hell of a lot.
- So basically, plus you got the Lapierre
with snake system in it.
- It's getting crazy, isn't it, battery technology?
- There's lots of options when it comes to batteries.
So I think definitely we're getting there
in terms of development.
- Let's talk about controls, bat..
Controls and software as well, what do you think?
Any public finances on that?
Well Bosch got the new Kiox.
- [Chris] Yeah.
- Rocky Mountain have got a neater display.
- Yeah. - Smarter got a new display.
You were telling me about... - Yeah.
- How they can fine tune that.
= Literally every bike out there has now a sort of
blue tooth connectivity to it.
I was just out on the road on my Canyon the other day.
Had a motor update before I left and stored it
in about five minutes.
So gone are the days where we have to go to a dealer
to get that update.
- And to think bottom line, you can now actually choose
to go with a display oriented bike
or one with nothing at all.
- Exactly.
- Like the Splashlight - stealth.
- You can go totally stealth,
so the choice is pretty much yours.
So next generation, next level e-bikes?
- Yeah, it'd be really good to hear what you think are
the big advances in e-bike technology
drop em in the comments below
and see what's going on.
(technological sound effects)
And if that's not enough tech for you,
check out this new colorway by Focus it's the drifter
- [Chris] Sweet isn't it, yeah look at the tan walls
and stuff on that.
- The what?
- The tan wall tires.
- Tan wall tires?
- Yeah.
- They look like gum wall tires
- Tan wall.
The tan wall, right.
- That's new school, remember?
Gotta get my tech, right, I think.
(laughs)
But yeah, nice looking bike right, Chris?
Does look good, really good.
I've got that tech option on though obviously it's
that bigger battery that we talked about earlier.
- Sorry about the paint job, though, right?
- Paint job and the gum walls is it?
- Gum walls.
- That's right, grandad.
(electronic music)
- Now it's time for climb of the week.
- We've got David here from Fort Murray, Alberta in Canada
on his specialized, his wife's specialized Hightail as well.
Climbing it there.
Repping the GMBN jersey as well.
Look at that fly in the bale.
- Do you know what? - Good to...
Old David looks a little like Steve Pete on a bike,
if you ask me.
- Does, you reckon?
Yeah totally.
That, that, that, that - he's flying up there.
That style. - That poise
- Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, totally.
- I can see what you're saying there.
- All right let's Steve Pete dressed up.
(laughs)
(techno sound effects)
- Just time for where in the world.
What have you got this week, Steve?
- I've got plastic globe, Chris.
- As always, let's give it a spin.
- Plastic globe.
- Where are we going?
- We are going to Santa Clarita in California
and some evening action from Sam and his Hyde bike, right?
Now Santa Clarita is, I think that's
where the Trek RND base not far from there,
but I've ridden in these in these hills.
- [Chris] Hmm-hmm.
- [Steve] And that's where Sam Hill and Gwen
spend quite a bit, used to spend quite about of time.
- [Chris] Went to training
- [Steve] Went to training.
So, it's a hell of a spot.
I mean you can't beat a bit of Californian action
on the e-bike, can you?
- [Chris] No, wrapped it up, looks amazing.
- It's a tough old place to ride, I bet.
- So nice look Sam.
Send us in your surname next time
and we'll get that on the show.
Keep on sending in your images,
your where in the worlds.
- Keep on... - Your climbs,
your descents,
any snippet. - on our upload
Yeah, our upload service, super easy to use.
Details about that on the bottom of this screen as well.
So get them coming in, we'll feature them on the show.
(techno sound effects)
All right crew, it's time for a bit of a ghetto tech.
And this week something that really sort your life out.
This from Matt, right boss.
- That's right, we got Matt that sent this in.
Obviously the problem with a lot of e-bikes
is mounting that water bottle.
But look what Matt has come up with on this.
[Matt] Obviously what I've done is use these flexible clips
to attach it to frame.
Big problem is the frame of this e-box is really angular,
so the thing wants to slip 'round all the time.
So all I've done, to get the high density foam,
about 30 mil square, round them in
and then tie the clips up perfect.
Takes the shape of the frame.
And your bottle stays fix to the top of the frame
ready for you to sort your life out with.
- Looking good
- I really like it, I really really like this idea.
I think it's a bit of original thinking.
I've never seen it before.
And for me it ticks all the right boxes to be honest.
- Yeah it does look pretty good.
It just looks a bit too close too out of stem
to pull the bottle out, but.
- Bottom line, sort your life out.
- It does.
- Chris, let's not forget, do a bit of shopping this week.
- Of course.
Seems like you got a bit of an old school top on there.
- Yeah, I keep a rugged, sort of older.
- Get some fresh.
- It's a new one, no.
- And I noticed there's some comments from last week's show.
You've obviously found the iron this week.
- No this is Bog's fresh, actually.
- Aha, nice, right.
Don't forget to check the shop out
for all those winter bobblecaps and.
- Bobblecaps?
- Or whatever they're called.
(laughs)
- Beanies, granddad.
- Feenies (chuckles). - Come on.
We got a whole new range now, these nice new tee shirts,
got beanies, got hoodies, sweatshirts, what else?
- What we have got, is the bike vault!
- Oh, let's get into it.
(grinding gears)
- Right, come in grandad, what we got?
- We got Jeff sent in this Rocky Mountain Altitude
Power Play from Heywiggen.
- Not hi wiggen?
- Not hi wiggen.
- That started in Lancaster then.
- No.
Purchased my e-bike after watching your show
since the start, so cheers for that.
- Yeah, right, well that's got me thinking, where on earth,
this should be where in the world,
where in the world is Heywiggen?`
The super nice has a great bike.
- It is nice.
- Can I just give it some nice?
(horn buzzes)
- Yeah, definitely, moving on.
- Scott, so we got Christian?
Christian in the woods, where is he, Sun Village?
- Uh- hum.
- Where's that, then?
- Scrou
- Scrriddle?
Scrilly south sand village.
Again some brilliant locations this week.
- It's gotta be supernice, right?
- Lovin that as well, yeah.
Yes. (horn honks) - Good.
- Ooh - Ooh.
- gum walls
look at that gumwalls. - tan wall.
Tan wall grandad, come on Look at the gum walls.
Tan wall.
- Try Power five nine, Finland!
- These look good.
- This lot was old super nice.
Is that a supernice before?
How'd you know that - but he thinks this one...
is nicer.
Because he said in his description.
But that is supernice.
- Yeah, I remember this bike, Marko.
Look at those grips and, yeah, supernice, right?
- Get on it, yeah.
(honks horn)
- Yeah.
- Well nice Kenevo there
from BrianontheRocksLordoftheSquirrelsloop.
- I mean come on do you actually
pick these out deliberately, lordofthesquirrelsloop?
(laughs) Really?
there's one way that's going, supernice.
(honks horn)
- 15th wide of the season as well.
- Lordofthesuirrelsloop.
Phillip what's your thoughts on that?
Aw, it'd be sad to see you go, Phil,
do you know what I mean?
- Joe Darrow sent in his giant full eve from Gypsum.
In colorado,
new e-bike 20 mile - Yeah, Gypsum,
I've seen that word, that's where cement comes from, right?
- Ceilings, innit?
- Are they ceilings? - Something,
Something like that. - Okay, right.
- He's 70 year... - different colors.
- 73 years old and could not do this
on his old mountain bike.
So he's gettin out there at 73 years old.
- Yeah Darryl, you just be careful out in those hills.
Right, supernice.
(horn honks)
- we've got a record going on.
Oh, your favorite,
the orange alpine, - yeah, orange.
the orange 68. - Hm.
- Contentious. 6C or not?
Yes, Glenonwinhill, obviously in Welsh territory
I'm not sure I can give that a supernice.
- No.
- Well, I'll be biased wouldn't I?
- All right let's move on.
(laughs)
- Well look at that, down to crash.
- Scott Genius, e-ride and from Knut, in Norway.
- Yeah, K-nut.
- Knut.
- K-nut in Norway.
Do you know what, I'm living the background, aren't I Chris?
- Sat on a demo ride as well.
- Back down the crash.
- It's nice.
- You'd be down the crash soon Phil.
- Picking those kids up, that'd be you Phil next week.
- What are we giving that?
- Oh that is super nice.
And this one, I mean that's one of the nicest images
I've seen on the bike fog.
Dolemite
- From Commerce - Big praise.
Big praise there.
- Look at that, oh that's beautiful,
that is absolutely beautiful.
- You're spending your super nices this week, aren't ya?
- All the way super nice.
- Whoa got pissed.
- Whoa, Martin Ashton would absolutely hit the ceiling,
if he saw all that.
Who is that from?
- From Pierce, a man from Hoboken himself.
- Pierce you're a bad man.
- Again, those bikes are, how many you got there?
six hobokes.
- Those are freshies aren't they?
- All got the new fly on motors in there as well.
- Chris.
- A quarry.
= Chris, where's our invite?
- Yeah, come on.
- Where's our invite?
- Where's our new fly-on bikes as well.
- Yeah, we want to come test these bikes out.
- Yeah, nice.
(laughs)
- And that's it, we're out of bike vault.
(gear grinds)
- Hey don't forget there's loads of stuff on EMBN this week.
If you've been living under a rock, there's always the
specialized Levos, 2019 Levo, to look at down there.
- And if you want to check out me
riding with my e-bike turned off...
- Why were you doing that?
(laughs)
- To see how far we could go, it's a challenge,
100 Ks to myself.
- Yeah.
Let's get it right, it was the 100 K challenge.
- Yeah.
- Not how far you can go.
- Exactly so I didn't, I maximized that battery
as far as I could, get those 100 Ks in which I did
on an e-bike, so check for that.
Check that video out here.
And don't forget to give us a thumbs up,
drop us some comments on this week's show down below.
- But finally, can I say, a big thanks to Phil
for all his hard work and late nights
over the last five years...
on the channel - The man behind the lens.
And, yeah
thank you very much Phil - see you again soon.
- It's gonna be sad to see you go.
- Will we, I'm crying already.
- Bye.