RUSSIA.
DAGEN: THIS COMES AS STEVE
WOZNIAK TELLS "USA TODAY" HE'S
LEAVING FACEBOOK OVER PRIVACY
CONCERNS.
TODAY MRS. SENIOR JUDICIAL
ANALYST JUDGE ANDREW NAPOLITANO.
WHAT YOU EXPECT FROM HIS
TESTIMONY?
IT'S NOT ABOUT CAMBRIDGE
ANALYTIC.
THAT'S GETTING THE ATTENTION
BECAUSE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN MONEY
VIEW SOME OF THIS DATA.
BUT THIS GOES BACK TO 2011 AND
THIS WAS THE SAME TYPE OF DATA
TO FACEBOOK ALLOWED TO 2012
OBAMA REELECTION CAMPAIGN TWO
YEARS.
POTENTIALLY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS
OF PEOPLE HAVE THEIR DATA
EXPOSED TO SOMEBODY OUT THERE.
>> IT'S WELL BEYOND WHETHER IT'S
A REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT THING
RIGHT NOW IT'S AN INVASION OF
PRIVACY.
A COUPLE OF ISSUES HERE.
TODAY, WHEN MARK ZUCKERBERG
MEETS, HE WILL BE MEETING WITH
THE STAFF OF THE TWO SENATE
COMMITTEES.
HE WON'T BE MEETING WITH THE
SENATORS AND MUCH OF WHAT HE
SAYS WILL BE UNDER OATH, A
PRIVATE DEPOSITION IF YOU WILL
DO SORT OF LOCK HIM INTO A
VERSION OF EVENTS SO THAT THE
SENATORS WILL KNOW TOMORROW WHEN
HE TESTIFIES PUBLICLY AND I
IMAGINE WE WILL ALL BE WATCHING
IT COME AND GO EXACTLY WHAT TO
SAY AHEAD OF TIME.
HE HAD SOME COMPETING FACTORS
GOING ON HERE.
REMEMBER, FACEBOOK HAS A CONSENT
DECREE WITH THE TRADE COMMISSION
WHICH ALLOWS THE FEDERAL TRADE
COMMISSION WITHOUT A HEARING TO
CHARGE FACEBOOK $40,000 PER
PRIVACY VIOLATION.
YOU CAN DO THE MATH.
WHAT IS 40,000 TIMES 87 MILLION?
ROUGHLY A COUPLE BILLION.
EVEN FOR SOMEBODY LIKE
ZUCKERBERG, EVEN FOR A CACHE
FLUSH COMPANY LIKE FACEBOOK IS A
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY.
THAT IS ONE THING HE HAS TO BE
CONCERNED ABOUT.
THE OTHER THING HE HAS TO BE
CONCERNED ABOUT IS HIS PUBLIC
IMAGE.
THIS IS THE MOST POPULAR, MOST
FREQUENTLY USED ENTITY ON THE
PLANET.
DOES HE WANT PEOPLE TO LEAVE IN
DROVES OR DOES HE WANT THEM IN
DROVES?
IF HE WANTS THEM TO STAND OR IS
COMING HE MUST CREDIBLY EXPLAIN
HOW THIS HAPPENED AND HOW THE
CAN PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING IN
THE FUTURE.
DAGEN: WOULD JUST ROLL THE VIDEO
WHEN WE WERE TALKING IN 2010
WHEN HE WAS BEING QUESTIONED BY
WALT MOSSBERG AND HE WAS
SWEATING SO PROFUSELY.
IT'S HARD TO SEE IN THIS VIDEO.
HE HAD SWEAT DRIPPING OFF HIS
CHIN.
HE WAS BEING ASKED ABOUT
PRIVACY.
I MISSPOKE.
THIS IS A 2010 INTERVIEW.
FACEBOOK OPENED IN A SICKLY
ACCESS TO FRIENDS AND FRIENDS OF
FRIENDS USER DATA TO ALL THESE
APP DEVELOPERS IN 2007.
IT ENDED IN 2015.
THEY ENDED IT BECAUSE IT WAS
QUITE FRANKLY SLEAZY AND PEOPLE
STARTED FIGURING OUT WHAT WAS
GOING ON AND THEN THEY CUT OFF
ACCESS OR LIMITED ACCESS.
>> IT'S INCONCEIVABLE.
INCONCEIVABLE THAT THE FACEBOOK
ENGINEERS AND EXECUTIVES DID NOT
KNOW THAT BY GIVING 287,000,
RATHER 287,000 VOLUNTEERS TO
CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA ALLOWED
CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA TO ACCESS
DATA ON THEIR FRIENDS AND
FRIENDS OF FRIENDS.
SIMPLY INCONCEIVABLE.
DAGEN: THEY KNEW IN 2015 ABOUT
THE ABUSE OF THIS PERSONAL
INFORMATION BY THE PSYCHOLOGIST
WHO PUT THIS PERSONALITY TEST
TOGETHER, AND THE PSYCHOLOGICAL
QUIZ TOGETHER.
WHAT'S GOING TO BE A SHOCKER FOR
EVERYBODY AS IF THEY COME OUT IN
SAY IT'S HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS
OF PEOPLE WHO THEIR DATA IS
STORED GOD KNOWS WHERE AROUND
THE WORLD BECAUSE ALL THESE APP
DEVELOPERS COLLECTED AT, RAKED
IT AND ARE SIGNALING THAT.
DAGEN: AT THE FTC ASSESSES THEM
$40,000 PER BREACH AND IT COMES
TO A COUPLE BILLION, WHERE DOES
THAT MONEY GO?
DOES THAT GO TO THE COFFERS OF
THE FTC?
GENERAL TREASURY OF THE UNITED
STATES OR THE HUMAN BEINGS WHOSE
PRIVACY WAS VIOLATED?
IF IT DOESN'T GO TO THEM,
ZUCKERBERG WILL NOT HEAR THIS
BUT YOU HAVE AN ENORMOUS
POTENTIAL CLASS-ACTION OUT
THERE.
A GROUP OF LAWYERS SUING ON
BEHALF OF EVERY FACEBOOK USER
WHOSE PRIVACY WAS EXPOSED
BECAUSE OF THE ENGINEER'S
FAILURE TO PROTECT IT.
FROM AND AFTER THE CONSENT
DECREE WITH THE FTC, THEY HAVE
AN ABSOLUTE OBLIGATION TO
PROTECT OUR PRIVACY.
TRAIN TO MARK ZUCKERBERG IS NOT
USED TO BEING PRESSED.
ANDY GETS PEAR YOU HAVE SHERYL
SANDBERG UP THERE SAYING WE ARE
BASICALLY CONNECTING PEOPLE.
WE DO GOOD IN THIS WORLD.
OF THE AMERICAN USERS ON
FACEBOOK HAVE THEIR DATA
COMPROMISED JUST IN THE
CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA PEERS
>> YOU'LL SEE A FAIRLY
AGGRESSIVE QUESTIONING NOT BY
CROSS EXAMINERS, BUT POLITICIANS
WHO WANT TO RESONATE THAT THEY
SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE AT HOME
WHOSE PRIVACY RIGHTS --
DAGEN: THEY ARE GOING TO QUOTE
THAT MEMO THAT FACEBOOK VICE
PRESIDENT ANDREW BOSWORTH PUT
TOGETHER, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT
ON THIS PROGRAM A COUPLE WEEKS
AGO.
MAYBE SOMEONE DIES IN A
TERRORIST ATTACK, BUT WE STILL
CANNOT PEOPLE IN THIS DE FACTO
GOOD.
ANYTHING THAT ALLOWS US TO
CONNECT MORE PEOPLE.
YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.
>> IS THIS A POLITICAL STORY?
ARE POLLS RESONATING?
>> IS THIS GOING TO IMPACT OTHER
BUSINESSES THAT COLLECT DATA?
IS THIS A SET PRECEDENT FOR
OTHER BUSINESSES?
>> EVEN WITHOUT THE CONSENT
DECREE FROM THE FEDERAL TRADE
COMMISSION, THERE ARE LAWS THAT
PROTECT PRIVACY THAT REQUIRE
THEM EITHER TO AN FORM YOU THAT
YOU ARE EXPOSED AND YOU OPT-OUT
OR YOU DO SOMETHING TO PROTECT.
>> OR NOT TO EXPOSE YOU.
>> DIDN'T FACEBOOK AND PRIVACY
LAWS THAT YOU OPT-IN OR OPT-OUT
WHEN YOU SIGN-UP?
>> DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY WHO READ
THAT STUFF?
>> YOU ARE HANGING FACEBOOK OUT
IS THAT THE COMPANY MAY CEASE TO
EXIST ON THIS, THAT THEY COULD
BE FINED INTO OBLIVION.
DAGEN: I DIDN'T HEAR IT THAT
WAY.
>> -- THE PRIVACY DISCLOSURE PER
PRIVACY STATEMENT.
DAGEN: THEY MADE A VERY TRICKY.
>> I HAVEN'T READ IT, BUT I
CAN'T IMAGINE INSTEAD IF YOU