>>> LET’S BRING IN REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN JEFF DENHAM FROM
CALIFORNIA.
CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
WE SAW YESTERDAY PAUL RYAN AND
MARK MEADOWS EXCHANGING WORDS ON
IMMIGRATION.
IMMIGRATION. YOU’VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT HOW
THE GOALPOSTS KEEP MOVING ON AN
IMMIGRATION REFORM BILL THAT
COULD PUT THIS MESS BEHIND US.
TELL US ABOUT IT.
>> DISAPPOINTING TO BE IN
CONTINUOUS NEGOTIATIONS WYCHE
AFTER WEEK AND EVERY TIME YOU
COME BACK NOT ONLY HAVE THE
MEMBERS OF THE FREEDOM CAUCUS
CHANGING BUT THE GOALPOST
CHANGES AS WELL SO WE WOULD
AGREE TO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
ISSUES, THEY BRING NEW ISSUES
OUT.
OUT. WE WOULD AGREE TO THOSE.
WE HAVE A VERY CONSERVATIVE BILL
THAT ADDRESSES THE THINGS WE
WERE PUSHING FOR, 1.8 MILLION
PROTECTED DEVIL RAYERS FROM EDED
AND STRONG BORDER SECURITY.
BUT EVEN LAST NIGHT THERE IS A
LOT OF TRAITS AND
CHARACTERISTICS THAT I ADMIRE
ABOUT THE FREEDOM CAUCUS
STICKING TOGETHER BUT HONESTY IS
NOT ONE OF THEM.
SO LAST NIGHT AGAIN THE DUSTUP
WITH THE SPEAKER ON THE FLOOR
WAS ABOUT CHANGING ONCE AGAIN
THEIR COMMITMENT TO THE OVERALL
STRATEGY OF BRINGING THESE BILLS
TO THE FLOOR SO THAT THEY CAN’T
UNDERMINE THIS DISCHARGE
PETITION.
PETITION. >> SO LET’S GET SPECIFIC, WHAT
IS THE FREEDOM CAUCUS BEING
DISHONEST ON?
DISHONEST ON? GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A POLICY
THEY’VE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE TO
MOVE THE GOALPOST.
>> OH, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
POLICIES BUT THE POLICY ISSUES
WE AGREED TO TO RSO THAT IS OF L
CONCERN BUT BECAUSE THERE IS A
TRUST FACTOR, GOING OUT OF THE
MEETINGS WHEN THEY COULDN’T EVEN
AGREE WHETHER OR NOT THEY TAKED
DOWN THE RULE -- YOU SERVED IN
CONGRESS, YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GET
INTO THESE PARLIAMENTARY
PROCEDURES YOU EITHER WORK
TOGETHER OR NOT.
SO WE AGREED TO BRING UP A RULE
AND A RULE AND A BILL AND A BILL
SO YOU COULDN’T SEPARATE OR TAKE
DOWN THE OTHER MEMBERS’ ISSUE.
NOT ONLY HAVE THAT GONE BACK ON
THAT BUT YOU’LL SEE DIFFERENT
PROCEDURES TODAY AND LAST NIGHT
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT THEY
DROPPED IN A COUPLE AMENDMENTS
TO THE GOODLATTE BILL TO MAKE IT
MORE DIFFICULT ON THE HOUSE
FLOOR TODAY.
FLOOR TODAY. >> SO I’M CURIOUS.
DO YOU THINK THEIR GOAL IS TO
SIMPLY KILL ANY IMMIGRATION
REFORM BILLS?
REFORM BILLS? >> I THINK CERTAINLY BY SOME.
THERE ARE SOME THAT FEEL THE
GOODLATTE BILL IS AMNESTY SO
THERE’S DIVISION WITHIN THE
FREEDOM CAUCUS BUT THAT IS ALSO
CREATING SOME CHALLENGES WITHIN
THE REPUBLICAN CAUCUS OVERALL.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE
POSSIBILITY OF GETTING A FIX TO
WHAT WE’VE BEEN SEEING OVER THE
PAST 20 DAYS ON THE BORDER.
YOU’VE SAID IT’S JUST
UNSUSTAINABLE AND THE PRESIDENT
FINALLYED UP LYLY UNDERSTOOD THA
NIGHT.
NIGHT. I’M CURIOUS, IS CONGRESS GOING
TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND
ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO
CHANGE THE LEGISLATION SO 20
DAYS FROM NOW WE AREN’T AT THIS
SAME POSITION WHERE CHILDREN,
BABIES, TODDLERS, INFANTS HAVE
TO BE SEPARATED FROM THEIR
PARENTS?
PARENTS? >> AND STILL ARE.
>> YES.
>> YES. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS AN ONGOING
PROBLEM FROM THE PREVIOUS TWO
PRESIDENTS.
PRESIDENTS. WE’VE ALWAYS HAD UNACCOMPANIED
MINORS COME ACROSS, WE’VE ALWAYS
HAD THESE CHALLENGES WITH HUGE
NUMBERS COMING OVER IN THE
SUMMER.
SUMMER. WE HAVE A BIG ECONOMY RIGHT NOW
WHERE MORE JOBS HERE PROVIDE
BETTER OPPORTUNITY AND MORE OF
AN ATTRACT FOR PEOPLE TO COME
HERE BUT WHAT WE HAVEN’T SEEN IS
THESE KIDS SEPARATED FROM THEIR
PARENTS, THAT SHOULD NEVER
HAPPEN.
HAPPEN. I’VE ASKED HOMELAND SECURITY AND
HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES FOR A
LIST TO SHOW US WHERE THESE KIDS
ARE BECAUSE IT IS A DIFFERENT
SCENARIO WHILE YOU’VE PUT
UNACCOMPANIED
UNACCOMPANIED UNACCOMPANIED MINORS ON THE
PLANES IN THE PAST, YOU’VE NEVER
PULLED THEM AWAY FROM PARENTS SO
THAT IS A BIG CHALLENGE, A BIG
QUESTION, WE WANT TO KNOW WHERE
THOSE KIDS ARE BUT ULTIMATELY
CHANGING THIS POLICY, I THINK
THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY.
I DON’T THINK EITHER PARTY HAS
BEEN AS CLOSE AS WE ARE TODAY
BUT I’M NOT AFRAID OR ASHAMED OF
WORKING WITH THE OTHER PART YEE
THEY ARE.
THEY ARE. I THINK THE BEST SOLUTION
BECOMES AN AMERICAN SOLUTION
WHERE YOU HAVE DEMOCRATS AND
REPUBLICANS WORKING TOGETHER IN
A BIPARTISAN FASHION.
WE’RE NOT THERE BUT WE HAD A
GREAT DEAL OF SUPPORT ON THE
DISCHARGE PETITION AND WE’RE
RESERVING EVERY PARLIAMENTARY
OPTION TO PUSH THIS ISSUE.
>> CONGRESSMAN, IT’S RICHARD
HAASS
HAASS HAASS.
HAASS. THE ONLY WAY TO BEAT A BLOCKING
MINORITY LIKE THE FREEDOM CAUCUS
IS TO MAKE THEM IRRELEVANT SO
WHY NOT HAVE A SERIOUS
CONVERSATION WITH THE MODERATE
DEMOCRATS AND PUT TOGETHER A
WORKING MAJORITY THAT MAKES THIS
MINORITY IRRELEVANT?
MINORITY IRRELEVANT? >> AND I BELIEVE WE WERE WORKING
IN THAT DIRECTION, WORKING WITH
OUR DEMOCRAT COLLEAGUES.
OBVIOUSLY AS YOU’VE SEEN WITH
THE DISCHARGE POSITION, TWO
PARTIES WORKING TOGETHER, TO NOT
BRING UP A DEMOCRAT BILL OR A
LIBERAL BILL BUT TO HAVE A FULL
DEBATE ON FOUR DIFFERENT PIECES
OF LEGISLATION IN FRONT OF THE
AMERICAN PUBLIC.
AMERICAN PUBLIC. IF IT’S A DEBATE ABOUT IDEAS WHY
WOULD YOU BE AFRAID TO TAKE THAT
IN FRONT OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC?
SO WE’LL SEE TWO BILLS TODAY BUT
IF THOSE FAIL I THINK THERE WILL
BE GREATER OPPORTUNITY FOR BOTH
PARTIES TO WORK TOGETHER AND NOT
ALLOW THE FREEDOM CAUCUS TO
HIJACK THE AGENDA.
>> CONGRESSMAN, IT’S WILLIE
GEIST, GOOD TO SEE YOU.
THE PRESIDENT’S ORDER DOES
NOTHING FOR THE KIDS CURRENTLY
SEPARATED FROM THEIR FAMILIES.
YESTERDAY HHS SAID THIS
EXECUTIVE ORDER DOESN’T
GRANDFATHER IN THOSE EXISTING
CASES THEN THEY SAID WE DON’T
HAVE GUIDANCE ON IT SO THEY
WALKED BACK THAT COMMENT.
THE BIG QUESTION FOR US THIS
MORNING AND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE
ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS WHAT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN TO THOSE 23200
KIDS?
KIDS? >> WELL, CERTAINLY THIS IS NOT
NEW POLICY.
NEW POLICY. AGAIN, ONCE THIS -- UNDER THE
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ONCE THE
KIDS WERE SEPARATED FROM THEIR
PARENTS THEY WERE TREATED AS
UNACCOMPANIED MINOR WHICH IS
WE’VE HAD THOUSANDS EVERY SINGLE
YEAR.
YEAR. THE CHALLENGE IS NOTIFYING THE
PARENTS AND REUNITING THE
PARENTS LATER.
PARENTS LATER. UNACCOMPANIED MINORS, FOR YEARS
WE’VE BEEN FINDING WAYS TO NOT
ONLY FIND FOSTER HOMES BUT TO
UNITE THEM WITH RELATIVES WHILE
THEY’RE AWAITING DUE PROCESS.
>> DO YOU HAVE A SENSE FOR WHAT
WILL HAPPEN TO THESE SPECIFIC
2300 KIDS AND IF YOU DON’T WHAT
SHOULD HAPPEN?
SHOULD HAPPEN? >> WELL, I HAD I.C.E. AND BORDER
PATROL IN MY OFFICE YESTERDAY
AND WE WERE HAVING A DISCUSSION
ABOUT THIS.
ABOUT THIS. THEY ARE ABLE TO DO DNA CHECKS
WITHIN AN HOUR SO THEY CAN
IDENTIFY THESE KIDS AND I WOULD
EXPECT IF HHS HAS ACCURATE LISTS
THEY’RE ABLE TO REUNITE BUT I
DON’T THINK WE SHOULD GO THROUGH
EXTREME SITUATIONS LIKE
DEMOCRATS WERE PROPOSING LAST
NIGHT THAT WE START PUTTING
ANKLE BRACELETS ON THESE KIDS
WHILE THEY’RE AWAITING DUE
PROCESS.
PROCESS. SOME OF THESE KIDS WILL GO TO
OUR SCHOOLS, TO PUT A TARGET ON
THESE KIDS’ BACK BY PUTTING AN
ANKLE BRACELET TO MONITOR THEM I
THINK IS THE WRONG PROPOSAL AS
WELL.
WELL. >> CONGRESSMAN JEFF DENHAM,
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
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