Speaker 1: we have a voicemail number. That number is 2192. David P. In the aftermath
of another horrible holiday weekend of more mass shootings in the United States. Radical,
repugnant, ridiculous. Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor GREENE
is taking out an old toy from the bag of toys. I guess anti-depressants are to blame for the mass
shootings. A voicemail about that. Take a listen. Speaker 3: To Marjorie Taylor GREENE tweet about
antidepressants. Now, certain anti-depressants being the problem. I mean, you know, obviously,
since she's a doctor, she knows best. But there's a real good way they're complaining
about mental illness, real way to handle it. Let's take a bunch of people off their meds
and see how they cope and see what happens. I'm sure all the problem is magically solved.
No more shooting. I mean stuff. Unbelievable. This woman should be medicated. Seriously, somebody.
Somebody needs to diagnose professional help. Speaker 1: Okay. Yes. So starting to meander a
bit. But the caller correctly assesses Marjorie Taylor GREENE has again linked. And by again,
I mean others have done it. I don't know if this is the first time she's done it or not. She is
linking antidepressants to mass shootings. And unfortunately, this is one of those things where
it starts to be repeated uncritically and people just seem to lose their ability to think. And one
of the things that if you really want to study, whether antidepressants cause people to commit
mass shootings, you would probably be able to set up such an experiment. And I'd have to think about
the best way to do it. It's not been done. And unfortunately, you can't really just say, hey,
if some shooters have been on antidepressants, we have to blame the antidepressants. In fact,
it could be that those already identified as struggling in certain ways or diagnosed for
certain conditions which might predispose them to violence, are then put on antidepressants. And the
anti-depressants are a a correlation and not at all a causation. It would sort of be like saying,
hey, you know, we're noticing I'm making this up, okay. But imagine that we said I'm noticing that
the people who have heart attacks are often on blood thinners at a higher rate than the general
population. Maybe the blood thinners cause the heart attack. Then you have to step back and say,
well, hold on a second. If the blood thinners are being prescribed to a group at higher risk of
heart attack, we have to consider whether it is a correlation that is not a causation, that there is
a lot of confounding factor. And in fact, without the blood thinners, maybe that group would have
an even higher rate of heart attack. I'm making that up. I don't know if that phenomenon exists,
but it's an important one to think about when we talk about the antidepressant thing. If
antidepressants cause mass shootings, would we want to know that? Of course we would.
Why wouldn't we want to know that? There is no such evidence at this time. And Alex, this is Alex
Jones level stuff. Alex Jones has talked about that. Others have talked about it again as part
of this concerted effort to talk about everything other than guns when it comes to mass shootings.
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