Hi there, this is Richard Radcliffe, I'm the husband of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe
in front of the Iranian embassy,
on what was day 15 of our hunger strike.
I say was because we've just had a telephone call from Nazanin from Evin prison
to say she's broken her hunger strike.
So because she's broken her hunger strike, that means I will be breaking mine.
Well done.
I think it's so sad and so wrong, that you should have been put, and your wife been put in this situation.
This past two weeks have been difficult for me,
physically but emotionally they've been uplifting.
I think one of the lessons I take away is that we are really strong together.
We'll be in touch, yeah?
Absolutely.
We are an ordinary family, an innocent family, and one day soon we'll hopefully be together again.
So you're getting used to make a coffee for yourself again, now?
Yes, yes making coffee and making breakfast.
Having to do the washing up … all the things
that I've been quietly ignoring before.
I was probably less well than I thought I was.
So there's been quite a lot of sleeping, quite a lot of just sort of starting to eat again and …
Not doing very much.
So this is the living room in our flat, where we lived and where we will live again
when this is all over.
The variety of photos that are up.
This actually was made by Nazanin in prison a few months after she was taken out of solitary.
Probably the most precious thing in the flat.
When was the last time you saw Gabriella?
Saw her physically?
Yes when they were caught at the airport.
When they went to the airport.
So, when she was one of three quarters.
So she still quite likes the idea this is her bed.
The idea that this is her home and this is her room and she's got her own room,
because in Tehran she doesn't have her own room.
I actually quite like looking at these pictures from the first year.
This one here was her first birthday
and in some of them she's really tiny.
Yeah, like, she was about ten days old on that one.
Did you ever think when she was last slept in this room,
that you would ever end up being a Skype daddy?
No and I'm not sure I think of myself exactly as a Skype daddy.
A daddy on sort of a temporary hiatus.
Oh, what was that?
Are you eating watermelon?
Does Daddy not like watermelon or you do not like sharing?
Yeah, she said she doesn't like sharing.
Yeah, Mummy always accuses Daddy of not liking sharing.
So when it all kicked off,
I couldn't really spend lot of time in the flat.
OK, it just felt too empty.
I mean, I didn't notice this silence in the way I used to and most people have a house
which they tidy up every time their guests comIng round.
Mine is normally because media are coming around.
But no, in that sort of thing, normal life is kind of on hold.
Love you! Love you!
Love you.
Love you! Bye bye.
When you look at what Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing, it's just, you know,
she was simply teaching people journalism, as I understand.
There's a way in which Nazanin's story has become an adjunct to the Boris Johnson story,
which has advantages because it means we get coverage that we wouldn't have got otherwise.
But huge disadvantages because essentially, you know,
the sort of fervent Boris supporters will now insist that, 'Of course Nazanin was doing something then.'
They're defending their man and so they're …
And I remember this, you know, really strongly at the time the gaffe back in the day.
It was about Boris, it wasn't about Nazanin, it wasn't about the fact that actually
the government is neglecting to protect people, it was about, you know,
how irresponsible this man is, you know this man, you know,
and all that kind of soap opera, Punch-and-Judy stuff.
But in pointing the finger at our side …
[Presenter] Words have consequences.
Actually in that case … I think it didn't make any difference but …
For me, the original gaffe was never the issue, it was the way things were conducted subsequently.
It is deeply problematic that he won't take responsibility.
The scars are mental and for sure the longer this goes on the more there are scars.
But she'll threaten suicide, she'll threaten ... there's kind of a despair
that's overwhelming.
Is there a point where you just say,
two years left of the sentence,
you're almost there …
Do you just ride it out for the next two years?
So there are families who have tried to do that,
and they've had extra years added.
I think it is clear in our case always that she's being held as a bargaining chip.
I don't think there's a quick soft option, I think we'd have to wait years and years.
And I do think that it lets both governments off the hook.
You know, that they are between them having a fight and using an innocent person to do it.
I'm not going to go gently into that good night while that happens.