>> GREAT TO HAVE YOU WHAT A BIG DAY IN WASHINGTON,
SIR.
SIR. WE’RE GOING TO GET INTO IT
TALK TO YOU SOON, CHUCK.
>>> WE BEGIN WITH THE FALLOUT
FROM THE DEMOCRATS FIRST
IMPEACHMENT PROBE HEARING WITH A
TRUMP WITNESS.
TRUMP WITNESS. HOUSE DEMOCRATS CALLING THEIR
FIRST OFFICIAL WITNESS IN THIS
IMPEACHMENT PROBE OF POTENTIAL
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE BY THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
DONALD TRUMP, MARKING TODAY AS
KIND OF AN INFLECTION POINT IN
THE BATTLE OVER ACCOUNTABILITY
FOR WHAT DEMOCRATS SAY ARE
TRUMP’S CRIMES IN OFFICE
THERE WERE FIREWORKS AS COREY
LEWANDOWSKI SEIZED ON THIS STAR
TURN TODAY TO BATTLE, FILIBUSTER
AND AT TIMES OPENLY TAUNT HOUSE
DEMOCRATS AT THIS HEARING.
THEY SAY LEWANDOWSKI’S BRAZEN
TACTICS MAKE HIM LOOK
DISRESPECTFUL, EVEN GUILTY
REMEMBER, THIS IS ALSO AN
ADVERSARY YAL PROCESS AND AT
TIMES LEWANDOWSKI WAS, MAKE NO
MISTAKE, EFFECTIVE AT DELAYING
THE PROCESS AND EVEN RUFFLING
HIS QUESTIONERS.
HIS QUESTIONERS. >> IS IT CORRECT THAT AS
REPORTED IN THE MUELLER REPORT
ON JUNE 19th, 2017, YOU MET
ALONE IN THE OVAL OFFICE WITH
THE PRESIDENT?
THE PRESIDENT? >> IS THERE A BOOK AND PAGE
NUMBER THAT YOU CAN REFERENCE ME
TO
TO I DON’T HAVE A COPY OF THE
REPORT.
REPORT. >> VOLUME 2, PAGE 90.
>> CAN YOU READ THE EXACT
REPORT
REPORT I DON’T HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO ME.
>> I DON’T THINK I NEED TO DO
THAT.
THAT. >> I’D LIKE YOU TO REFRESH MY
MEMORY BY PROVIDING A COPY OF
THE REPORT SO I CAN FOLLOW
ALONG.
ALONG. >> YOU DON’T HAVE A COPY WITH
YOU?
YOU? >> I WHICH HAVEDON’T HAVE A COPY
>> I REQUEST THAT THE CLOCK BE
STOPPED WHILE THIS CHARADE IS
SORTED OUT.
SORTED OUT. >> IT WAS CLEAR RIGHT THERE FROM
THAT OPENING GAVEL THAT
LEWANDOWSKI’S STRATEGY WAS TO
STONEWALL, DODGE AND PLAY THE
GAMES THAT WOULD APPEAL MORE TO
DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES THAN
WIN OVER ANY NEUTRAL OBSERVERS
>> HOW MANY TIMES HAS THE
PRESIDENT ASKED YOU TO MEET HIM
IN THE WHITE HOUSE
>> THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DIRECTED
ME NOT TO DISCLOSE THE SUBSTANCE
OF ANY DISCUSSIONS.
>> HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU MEET
WITH THE PRESIDENT ALONE IN THE
WHITE HOUSE IN 2017?
>> I DON’T KNOW THE ANSWER TO
THAT.
THAT. >> HOW MANY TIMES DID HE DIRECT
YOU TO DELIVER A MESSAGE TO A
MEMBER OF HIS CABINET.
>> THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DIRECTED
I NOT DISCLOSE THE SUBSTANCE OF
ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. >> HERE ARE THE FACTS.
LEWANDOWSKI NEVER WORKED FOR THE
SITTING PRESIDENT IN OFFICE.
HE WAS NEVER A GOVERNMENT
OFFICIAL
OFFICIAL HE WAS SUBPOENAS AND PUT UNDER
OATH TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, SOME
OF WHICH HE ANSWERED ALREADY IN
THE MUELLER REPORT
SO RIGHT THERE THIS REQUEST FROM
THE GOVERNMENT TO HIDE
INFORMATION OR DUCK QUESTIONS IS
JUST THAT.
JUST THAT. THERE’S NO LEGAL COMPONENT TO
IT
IT IT IS THE EQUIVALENT OF SAYING
THE PEOPLE UNDER INVESTIGATION
DON’T WANT ME TO TELL YOU THE
TRUTH ABOUT THEM
IT’S NOT A LEGALLY VALID ANSWER,
WHICH IS WHY IT DIDN’T WORK WHEN
LEWANDOWSKI TRIED ANYTHING LIKE
THAT WITH BOB MUELLER WHO MADE
LEWANDOWSKI ADMIT THAT TRUMP
ASKED LEWANDOWSKI TO TRY TO GET
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO CURB,
YES, THE MUELLER PROBE, TO LIMIT
ITS JURISDICTION
ITS JURISDICTION MUELLER CATEGORIZED ALL OF THAT
AS PART OF THE EFFORTS TO
CURTAIL THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION, THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL’S INVESTIGATION.
COUNSEL’S INVESTIGATION. SO RIGHT HERE YOU TAKE A STEP
BACK FROM LEWANDOWSKI’S BLUSTER
AND SEE THE OUTLINES OF THE
HIDING
HIDING HIDE THE STORIES IN PUBLIC,
DELAY AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.
IN LEWANDOWSKI’S CASE, TO BE
FAIR, ULTIMATELY TELL MUELLER
THE TRUTH.
THE TRUTH. OF COURSE THAT’S PARTLY TO AVOID
HAVING TO GO TO JAIL
BUT THEN COME BACK AND HIDE IT
AGAIN WHEN ASKED ABOUT IT UNDER
OATH TODAY
OATH TODAY >> THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DIRECTED
I NOT DISCLOSE THE SUBSTANCE OF
ANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE
PRESIDENT OR HIS ADVISERS TO
PROTECT EXECUTIVE BRANCH
CONFIDENTIALITY.
CONFIDENTIALITY. THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DIRECTED I
NOT DISCLOSE THE SUBSTANCE OF
ANY DISCUSSIONS.
ANY DISCUSSIONS. THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DIRECTED I
NOT DISCLOSE
NOT DISCLOSE THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DIRECTED I
NOT DISCLOSE THE DISCUSSIONS --
I WILL NOT DISCLOSE ANY
CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH THE
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. I AM RESPECTING THE EXECUTIVE
BRANCH PRIVILEGE OF
CONFIDENTIALITY.
CONFIDENTIALITY. >> IF YOU FIND THE HIGHLIGHTS
REPETITIVE, JUST IMAGINE BEING
IN THAT HEARING ROOM OR COVERING
IT ALL DAY TODAY AS OUR TEAM HAS
BEEN DOING TRACKING IT
IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THE
PRIVILEGE THAT MIGHT BE SORT OF
IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND THERE
WAIT, I’VE HEARD ABOUT WHITE
HOUSE PRIVILEGE, IT DOES NOT
APPLY TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WORK
IN THE WHITE HOUSE NOR TO HIDING
POTENTIAL CRIMES
POTENTIAL CRIMES BUT THE GUARDIANS OF THAT
PRIVILEGE WERE FLANKING
LEWANDOWSKI.
LEWANDOWSKI. YOU CAN SEE AS HE LEANS BACK AND
GETS THAT ADVICE, DONALD TRUMP’S
WHITE HOUSE LAWYERS PROVIDING
GOVERNMENT-PAID LEGAL SERVICES
TO THIS VERY IMPORTANT RED-TIED
CITIZEN.
CITIZEN. NOW, AT TIMES SOME MEMBERS OF
CONGRESS DID NARROW THINGS, I
WANT TO SHOW YOU, TO THE POINT
LEWANDOWSKI WAS FORCED TO
ACKNOWLEDGE CERTAIN FACTS.
HERE’S A BRIEF EXCHANGE WITH
CONGRESSMAN HANK JOHNSON
>> I BELIEVE HEASKED ME TO
DELIVER A MESSAGE FOR JEFF TO
CONSIDER DELIVERING HIMSELF.
>> HE WANTED YOU TO DELIVER TO
ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS,
CORRECT?
CORRECT? >> I BELIEVE THAT’S AN ACCURATE
REPRESENTATION.
REPRESENTATION. >> AND HE WANTED YOU TO DELIVER
IT TO JEFF SO THAT JEFF COULD
SAY IT TO THE PEOPLE, RIGHT?
>> I BELIEVE SO.
>> THAT WAS A RARE ADMISSION
TODAY.
TODAY. LEWANDOWSKI’S WRANGLING AND
EVADING IN A HEARING THAT
CONTINUES WAS SO THICK THERE ARE
EVEN SOME INDEPENDENT EXPERTS
SUGGESTING TODAY HE MAY HAVE
FAILED TO DO THE BARE MINIMUM OF
COOPERATING WITH THE
CONGRESSIONAL PROBE, WHICH MEANS
CONGRESS COULD TECHNICALLY HOLD
HIM IN CONTEMPT FOR THAT
THAT’S WHAT ONE CONGRESSMAN WAS
ASKING FOR AND TODAY CHAIRMAN
NADLER REPORTEDLY IS STILL
CONSIDERING ALL THE OPTIONS.
SO YOU TAKE THIS TOGETHER AND
HERE’S WHAT WE HAVE.
THE DEMOCRATS HELD AN
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE HEARING
TO GET FACTS ABOUT POTENTIAL
OBSTRUCTION AND THE KEY TRUMP
WITNESS LOOKED MORE LIKE HE WAS
COVERING UP THE FACTS THAN
PROVIDING THEM
PROVIDING THEM THAT’S BAD BY ANY MEASURE.
DEMOCRATS SAY THAT ITSELF LOOKS
LIKE AN ELEMENT OF THE CRIME OF
OBSTRUCTION.
OBSTRUCTION. TRUMP’S ALLIES, THOUGH, THEY
STRESS LEWANDOWSKI WAS NEVER
CHARGED WITH ANYTHING DURING
THIS LONG PROBE, LET ALONE
CONVICTED, AND THAT HE DID
COOPERATE WITH MUELLER
TAKE IT ALTOGETHER AND EVEN
ADMITS THE CHAOS OF SOME OF WHAT
LEWANDOWSKI DID AND WAS ABLE TO
UNCORK
UNCORK WE SHOWED YOU SOME OF THE
MADNESS IN THESE EXCERPTS.
A LOT OF THIS DOESN’T LOOK THAT
GOOD FOR DONALD TRUMP ON THE
SUBSTANCE.
SUBSTANCE. BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE
WE ALWAYS TRY TO GIVE YOU THE
FULL PICTURE HERE.
LEWANDOWSKI ALSO DID PROVE A
WILY AND EFFECTIVE HOSS STYLE
WITNESS AT TIMES
HE JUST SEIZED AS A TRUMP
WITNESS AND THE FIRST MAJOR
HEARING SINCE BOB MUELLER
HIMSELF TESTIFIED AND
LEWANDOWSKI USED IT TO FACE DOWN
HOUSE INVESTIGATORS, TO CALL
INTO QUESTION THE DEMOCRATS’
APPROACH THUS FAR AND MOST
OMINOUSLY FOR THOSE ROOTING FOR
PROGRESS IN THE ROAD TO
IMPEACHMENT, LEWANDOWSKI CALLED
INTO QUESTION THEIR RESULTS.
FOR MORE ANALYSIS I WANT TO
BRING IN TWO OF OUR ACE LEGAL
EAGLES, MAYA WILEY, FORMER CIVIL
PROSECUTOR IN THE SOUTHERN
DISTRICT OF NEW YORK AND JOHN
FLANNERY, FORMER FEDERAL
PROSECUTOR
PROSECUTOR A LOT TO GET INTO AND I HAVE A
FEW MORE EXCERPTS I WANT TO PLAY
FOR VIEWERS.
FOR VIEWERS. JOHN, I PUT THAT QUESTION TO
YOU.
YOU. OBVIOUSLY WE SEE THE SUBSTANCE
AND THE PROBLEMS AND WHAT
LEWANDOWSKI DID AND I COVERED
THAT.
THAT. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THIS POINT
THAT HE WAS WILY AND EFFECTIVE
AS A HOSTILE WITNESS
>> I DON’T THINK HE WAS WILY AND
EFFECTIVE AND I THOUGHT HE WORE
DOWN TOWARD THE END.
SEVERAL OF THE MEMBERS GOT
ELEMENTS OF THE CRIME OF
CONSPIRACY
CONSPIRACY WHAT PEOPLE FORGET IS THAT YOU
DON’T HAVE TO SUCCEED IN A
CONSPIRACY
CONSPIRACY WE HAVE TRUMP ASKING HIM
BASICALLY TO KILL THE
INVESTIGATION BY CONVERTING
SESSIONS TO THEIR SIDE
AND HE’S TOLD THIS BUT HE
DOESN’T STOP THERE, HE DOES
OVERT ACTS
OVERT ACTS HE WRITES DOWN WHAT THE
PRESIDENT WANTS SESSIONS TO
HEAR
HEAR HE MAKES AN APPOINTMENT WITH
SESSIONS
SESSIONS SESSIONS DOESN’T SHOW UP
WE DON’T KNOW IF THERE’S ANY
SIDE CONVERSATIONS
SIDE CONVERSATIONS HE PUTS THE DOCUMENT IN A SAFE
AND THEN HE ARRANGES FOR SOMEONE
ELSE TO GIVE IT TO SESSIONS.
THEN HE HAS ANOTHER MEETING WITH
TRUMP.
TRUMP. SO THERE ARE ALL THESE OVERT
ACTS
ACTS IN A CONSPIRACY, IF YOU DON’T
WITHDRAW, YOU’RE EXPOSED
IT ONLY TAKES TWO TO TANGO IN A
CONSPIRACY
CONSPIRACY SO YOU HAVE TRUMP AND YOU HAVE
THIS GUY
THIS GUY AND HE JUST DIDN’T CARRY THE
DAY.
DAY. I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WATCHING IT
ARE UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE THEY
LIKE A SMOOTH OPERATION.
I’M NOT BEING FACETIOUS.
THOSE OF US WHO DO TRIAL WORK
KNOW THAT WHEN YOU DO A
DEPOSITION, IT’S A FOOD FIGHT
SOMETIMES.
SOMETIMES. THE THING THAT YOU HAVE IN A
DEPOSITION IS YOU CAN CALL A
JUDGE AND HAVE SOMETHING HAPPEN.
THAT SAID, I THINK THAT WE GOT
STUFF FROM NADLER, WHO WAS
STRONGER AND SEVERAL CONGRESSMEN
WHO PINNED THE ELEMENTS OF THE
CONSPIRACY AND IDENTIFIED THE
OVERT ACTS, PARTICULARLY
CONGRESSMAN CICILLINE.
CONGRESSMAN CICILLINE. I THOUGHT IF YOU TOOK HIS FIVE
MINUTES, YOU HAD A SUMMARY OF
THE CASE AGAINST OUR BOY, COREY,
AND I DON’T KNOW HOW HE GETS OUT
OF IT.
OF IT. HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE FIFTH
AMENDMENT AND HE’S TRAPPED
IF I WAS RUNNING AGAINST HIM,
BOY, THIS STUFF WILL BE OUT
THERE ALL THE TIME
>> MAYA, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS KEY
EXCHANGE
EXCHANGE >> DIDN’T YOU THINK IT WAS A
LITTLE STRANGE THAT THE
PRESIDENT WOULD SIT DOWN WITH
YOU ONE ON ONE AND ASK YOU TO DO
SOMETHING THAT YOU KNEW WAS
AGAINST THE LAW?
>> I DIDN’T THINK THE PRESIDENT
WOULD ASK ME TO DO ANYTHING
ILLEGAL.
ILLEGAL. >> YOU DIDN’T THINK IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN ILLEGAL FOR YOU TO ASK
MR. SESSIONS TO DROP THE
INVESTIGATION AND TO JUST GO ON
TO FUTURE PRESIDENTS AND OMIT
EVERYTHING WITH THIS PRESIDENT,
SAY WE’RE GOING TO START WITH
THE NEXT ONE ABOUT COLLUDING
WITH RUSSIA?
WITH RUSSIA? YOU DIDN’T THINK THAT WAS
ILLEGAL TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE?
>> CONGRESSMAN, THE PRESIDENT
DIDN’T ASK ME TO DO ANYTHING
ILLEGAL.
ILLEGAL. >> LEWANDOWSKI IS RIDE OR DIE,
SO THAT’S WHAT WE GOT TODAY.
>> THAT’S CLEAR.
>> THAT’S CLEAR.
AND I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH WHAT
YOU SAID EARLIER, WHICH IS
LEWANDOWSKI, WILY MAYBE NOT, BUT
WHAT HE DID EFFECTIVELY WAS
ESSENTIALLY STICK TO HIS
POSITION, WHICH IS I WAS NOT
TOLD TO DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL.
NOW, WHAT JOHN IS ABSOLUTELY
RIGHT ABOUT IS TONS OF EVIDENCE
THAT, YES, FRANKLY ROBERT
MUELLER FOUND OBSTRUCTIVE ACT,
THAT IT WAS CONNECTED TO THE
GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION AND
THAT THERE WAS SUBSTANTIAL
EVIDENCE OF INTENT TO OBSTRUCT
THAT’S WHAT THE SECTION OF THE
MUELLER REPORT SAYS REGARDING
WHAT COREY LEWANDOWSKI AGREED TO
DO FOR DONALD TRUMP.
I THINK THE PROBLEM HERE IS THEY
WERE NOT -- DEMOCRATS WERE NOT
ABLE TO GET OUT A COHERENT STORY
FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT
LAWYERS.
LAWYERS. THAT’S THE ISSUE.
>> IF THIS IS ABOUT AN
IMPEACHMENT PROBE, WHICH THEY
SAY IT IS, THEN THE AMERICAN
PUBLIC IS LOOKING AT A PRETRIAL
STORY, WHICH WOULD SET UP ARE
YOU EVER GOING TO GO OUT AND DO
ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT AND DO
THE REST
THE REST WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE, YOU NEED
TO LAY THAT FOUNDATION
AT TIMES IT FELT LIKE
LEWANDOWSKI IN STYLE MORE THAN
SUBSTANCE WAS HOSTILE, PUNCHED
SOME HOLES
SOME HOLES THEN YOU GET OUT ON THESE
DIVERGENTS
DIVERGENTS HERE’S ANOTHER MOMENT TO TAKE A
LOOK AT WHICH EVOLVED AROUND THE
SAFE AND ON THE ONE HAND WAS
SUSPICIOUS BUT I DON’T THINK
GOES TO THE LARGER SUBSTANTIVE
QUESTION OF WHETHER DONALD TRUMP
IS GOING TO BE PROVED TO HAVE
COMMITTED CRIMES IN OFFICE
THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE HUNTING.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> HAVE YOU EVER PUT ANY WORDS
THAT THE PRESIDENT ASKED YOU TO
WRITE DOWN BEFORE IN A SAFE OR
WAS THIS THE FIRST TIME YOU HAD
DONE THAT?
DONE THAT? >> I BELIEVE IT’S MY STANDARD
OPERATING PROCEDURE WHEN TAKING
NOTES, CONGRESSMAN.
NOTES, CONGRESSMAN. >> SO EVERY NOTE THAT YOU TAKE
OF THE PRESIDENT YOU PUT IN A
SAFE
SAFE HOW BIG IS THAT SAFE
>> IT’S A BIG SAFE, CONGRESSMAN.
THERE’S A LOT OF GUNS IN THERE.
>> IS IT THE FIRST TIME THAT THE
PRESIDENT EVER ASKED YOU TO
DELIVER TO SOMEONE ELSE TO A
SAFE
SAFE >> NOT TO THE BEST OF MY
RECOLLECTION.
RECOLLECTION. >> YEAH, THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT
MOMENT, I THINK, IN THE SENSE
THAT IT DEMONSTRATED THAT CORYEY
LEWANDOWSKI DESPITE SAYING HE
DOESN’T BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT
ASKED HIM TO DO ANYTHING WRONG,
THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING VERY
SENSITIVE THERE TO HIM
YOU KNOW, KAREN BASS,
REPRESENTATIVE BASS, ALSO GOT TO
THIS POINT I THOUGHT VERY
EFFECTIVELY IN HER QUESTIONING
ABOUT THE FACT THAT COREY
LEWANDOWSKI DID NOT WANT TO GO
TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO
MEET WITH JEFF SESSIONS BECAUSE
HE DIDN’T WANT HIS NAME IN THE
VISITORS LOG
VISITORS LOG SO IF YOU’RE NOT DOING SOMETHING
THAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE A LITTLE
FISHY, THEN WHY ARE YOU DOING
THOSE TWO THINGS
>> YEAH, THIS IS SOMETHING,
JOHN, THAT HAS COME UP BEFORE
AND THAT IS IMPORTANT IN THE
PROCESS FOR PEOPLE TO
UNDERSTAND
UNDERSTAND WE DID A WHOLE REPORT HERE WHERE
COREY LEWANDOWSKI CAME ON THIS
SHOW BECAUSE WE WILL INTERVIEW
PEOPLE WHO ARE GERMANE TO THE
FACTS.
FACTS. HE LIED TO US ABOUT THE REQUESTS
REGARDING INTERFERENCE
REGARDING INTERFERENCE THEN LATER WHEN IT WAS IN THE
MUELLER REPORT WE DID A
FOLLOW-UP SO VIEWERS COULD SAY,
HEY, HE LIED
HE DECLINED TO COME BACK AND
DISCUSS IT BECAUSE I EXTENDED
THAT INVITE.
THAT INVITE. SO AS MAYA SAYS, THERE ARE WAYS
THAT MR. LEWANDOWSKI HAS SHOWN A
GREAT DEAL OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT
THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT
THAT GO IN THE SAFE, THAT ARE
LIED ABOUT ON TV BUT THEN TOLD
THE TRUTH TO MUELLER TO NOT
COMMIT A CRIME BUT THEN ARE
HIDDEN IN THE HEARING TODAY.
AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT CREATE
ENOUGH FOG THAT THE DEMOCRATS
ARE STRUGGLING TO BREAK OUT OF
IT WITH A CLEAR MESSAGE TO
AMERICA?
AMERICA? IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WAS THE
TAKEAWAY FOR AMERICANS ABOUT THE
PRESIDENT’S CONDUCT TODAY IN
YOUR VIEW?
YOUR VIEW? >> WELL, WHAT I FOUNDING IS THAT
WHEN WE HAVE A HEARING LIKE
THIS, WHICH IS PARTICULARLY
CONTROVERSIAL AND LIKE WITH THE
EARLY E.R. IMPEACHMENT HEARING
OF PRESIDENT CLINTON, THERE’S
ABOUT TWO DAYS BEFORE YOU HAVE A
REACTION
REACTION DEMOCRATS ASKED QUESTIONS AND
WERE INTERFERED AND REPUBLICANS
TALKED ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE
SO THE SYNTHESIS WILL BE THIS
GUY IS A BAD GUY
I THINK THAT’S A LIKELY OUTCOME.
AND SO THERE WILL BE MOVEMENT
ALONG THOSE LINES.
THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK WE
SHOULD KEEP IN MIND, WHICH IS
ABOUT THE CRIMINAL LAW, IS THAT
IF YOU, COREY, PARTICIPATE IN A
CONSPIRACY AND YOU HAVE REASON
TO BELIEVE THERE ARE OTHERS IN
THE CONSPIRACY, YOU’RE
IMPLICATED IN THE WHOLE
CONSPIRACY
CONSPIRACY SO THERE’S KIND OF ELECTRICITY
BETWEEN COREY AND TRUMP AND
EVERYBODY ELSE DOING THIS.
>> THAT’S IMPORTANT WHAT YOU’RE
SAYING
SAYING JOHN, I WANT YOU TO ANALYZE THIS
OTHER MOMENT, THE WHAT ARE YOU
HIDING MOMENT.
HIDING MOMENT. BECAUSE WHAT THEY DIDN’T DO IS
UNLEASH SOMEONE TO SAY I WORKED
ON THE CAMPAIGN, I’LL TELL YOU
THE WHOLE STORY.
DID WE SHOW UP AT DUMB MEETINGS?
SURE, BUT BOB MUELLER DIDN’T
CHARGE US FOR THAT
WERE WE SLOPPY
SURE, BUT THAT’S NOT A CRIME
LET ME TELL YOU THE STORY
BECAUSE WE ARE CONFIDENT IN WHAT
WE DID IN OUR INNOCENCE.
INSTEAD YOU HAVE EVASIONS.
ONE OF THE POINTS THAT I THOUGHT
WAS A SHORTCOMING WAS THE
CONSTANT HIDING OBVIOUSLY.
TAKE A LOOK.
>> ALL RIGHT
>> THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANTING
TO KNOW AND ARE FRUSTRATED TODAY
WHAT IN FACT ARE YOU HIDING?
THE PRESIDENT IS NAMED AS
INDIVIDUAL 1 IN A CRIMINAL CASE
BY HIS FORMER PERSONAL ATTORNEY.
YOU’RE ASKING US TO BELIEVE THAT
YOU NEVER DISCUSSED WITH THE
PRESIDENT THIS FACT IN ALL OF
YOUR THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF
CONVERSATIONS?
CONVERSATIONS? >> AGAIN, CONGRESSMAN, TO THE
BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE I DON’T
RECALL EVER HAVING A
CONVERSATION WITH CANDIDATE
TRUMP ABOUT ANY INTERACTION WITH
RUSSIA
RUSSIA >> WELL, THE BEST OF HIS
KNOWLEDGE, WHEN HE WAS
TESTIFYING AT THE BEGINNING WITH
NADLER, HE DIDN’T EVEN REMEMBER
IF HE MET WITH THE PRESIDENT
TWICE AND HAD TO BE SHOWN THE
PAGE AND PARAGRAPH IN ORDER TO
AGREE TO THAT.
WE ALL SEE THAT AND WE ALL SAY
HE KNOWS HE WAS WITH THE
PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. AND THE OTHER ASPECT IS THIS IS
CONSCIOUSNESS OF GUILT
WHAT IS GOING ON
HE TELLS US HE MAKES NO NOTES
AND THEN HE MAKES THIS NOTE THAT
HE’S -- SPEECH REALLY THAT HE’S
GOING TO GIVE TO SESSIONS.
THAT’S A CONTRADICTION
HE PUTS IT IN A SAFE
WHY?
WHY? BECAUSE HE DOESN’T WANT IT TO
FALL IN ANYBODY ELSE’S HANDS
HE DOESN’T RECANT, DOESN’T
WITHDRAW FROM THE CONSPIRACY
IN FACT YOU CAN ARGUE THAT TODAY
IN THE HOUSE HE CONTINUED TO BE
A CO-CONSPIRATOR.
A CO-CONSPIRATOR. >> ON THAT POINT, GIVEN YOUR
HISTORY ADVISING THESE KIND OF
COMMITTEES, TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
BIG WINDUP FROM NADLER
TAKE A LOOK.
>> MR. LEWANDOWSKI, WHEN YOU
REFUSE TO ANSWER THESE
QUESTIONS, YOU ARE OBSTRUCTING
THE WORK OF OUR COMMITTEE.
YOU ARE ALSO PROVING OUR POINT
FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEE
THE PRESIDENT IS INTENT ON
OBSTRUCTING OUR LEGITIMATE
OVERSIGHT.
OVERSIGHT. YOU ARE AIDING HIM IN THAT
OBSTRUCTION.
OBSTRUCTION. I WILL REMIND YOU THAT ARTICLE 3
OF THE IMPEACHMENT AGAINST
PRESIDENT NIXON WAS BASED ON
OBSTRUCTION OF CONGRESS.
YOU ARE INSTRUCTED TO ANSWER THE
QUESTION
QUESTION >> LIGHTNING ROUND IN A SENTENCE
OR TWO FROM BOTH OF YOU, YOUR
THOUGHTS ON THAT OR IN
SUMMATION.
SUMMATION. JOHN.
JOHN. >> NAILED IT
THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT’S GOING ON
HERE, AND HE DID IT BEFORE THE
NATION OR HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE
WATCHED IT
WATCHED IT I THINK IN THE NEXT TWO DAYS
WE’LL SEE HOW HE PAYS FOR IT.
>> MAYA.
>> MAYA. >> I AGREE
I WOULD ADD THAT WHAT’S
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH BARRY
BURKE POINTING OUT THAT
LEWANDOWSKI WAS HAVING
CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ASSERTING
THE FIFTH AMENDMENT ARE THINGS
THAT I WONDER IF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE ARE REALLY HEARING AND IF
THEY’RE GOING TO DO A GOOD JOB
AT GETTING AT WHAT IS REALLY