PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID HE HAD NO
PLANS TO FIRE ROSENSTEIN AFTER
TALKING WITH HIM YESTERDAY
ABOUT 45 MINUTES.
ABOARD AIR FORCE ONE.
THE PRESIDENT TELLING REPORTERS
THIS AFTERNOON THAT HE WILL
INTENTLY MONITOR HIS
DEPOSITION, THAT IS
ROSENSTEIN'S DEPOSITION
THURSDAY BEFORE THE HOUSE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
>> WELL, I GUESS HE'S GOING
BEFORE CONGRESS.
WE HAD A VERY GOOD TALK
YESTERDAY, AND HE'S GOING
BEFORE CONGRESS.
WE'LL SEE HOW IT ALL WORKS OUT.
IN THE MEANTIME, AS YOU KNOW,
SENATOR RICHARD BURR CAME OUT
RECENTLY AND SAID THERE WAS NO
COLLUSION.
HE SAW NO COLLUSION, AFTER A
YEAR AND A HALF, AND DEVIN
NUNES, AS YOU KNOW, VERY SMART
PEOPLE.
HE CAME OUT.
THERE'S NO COLLUSION, THERE IS
NO COLLUSION.
THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT.
LOU: JOINING ME ONE OF THE
REPORTERS LEADING THE COVERAGE
OF THIS IMPORTANT STORY.
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER, FOX
BUSINESS CONTRIBUTOR SARAH
CARTER JOINING US.
SARAH, GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH
US.
>> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU, LOU.
THANK YOU.
LOU: GREAT TO HAVE YOU.
IT IS AN EXTRAORDINARY
DEVELOPMENT THAT THE FORMER
FBI, GENERAL COUNSEL RELATING
THE STATEMENTS OF THESE FBI
OFFICIALS WHO MET WITH
APPARENTLY ROSENSTEIN AND HAVE
-- HE HAS QUITE A DIFFERENT
IMPRESSION OF WHAT TRANSPIRED.
YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
IT'S HIGHLY SIGNIFICANT, LOU,
THAT IT'S JAMES BAKER.
AFTER "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
STORY PUBLISHED AND THE
ACCUSATIONS CAME OUT AND THE
INFORMATION ABOUT THIS MEETING
BETWEEN DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL
ROD ROSENSTEIN AND ANDY McCABE
AS WELL AS LISA PAGE, THE
D.O.J. TRIED TO PUSH IT OFF
SAYING, LOOK, HE WAS JOKING
AROUND, THEN NO, WAIT A MINUTE,
HE ACTED OUT, HE WAS UPSET.
HE DIDN'T MEAN IT.
IT WAS JUST A STATEMENT THAT HE
MADE, AND THEN THEY TRIED TO
BLAME IT OFF ON ANDY McCABE AND
LISA PAGE, BASICALLY SAYING
THESE TWO HAVE LIED IN THE
PAST, PARTICULARLY ANDY McCABE,
UNDER INVESTIGATION AND NOW
UNDER A GRAND JURY
INVESTIGATION, BUT NOW YOU HAVE
JAMES BAKER, THE GENERAL
COUNSEL OF THE FBI.
THIS IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE
AFTER ANDREW McCABE AND LISA
PAGE LEFT THE MEETING, THEY MET
WITH JAMES BAKER, AND HE
BELIEVED EXACTLY WHAT THEY TOLD
HIM, THAT ROD ROSENSTEIN WAS
VERY SERIOUS ABOUT SECRETLY
RECORDING THE PRESIDENT AND
ALSO VERY SERIOUS ABOUT INVOKE
THE 25th AMENDMENT.
AND DID I HEAR AS WELL THAT
THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE WITHIN
THE ADMINISTRATION,
ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS THAT
HE HAD SPOKEN WITH, BASICALLY
ABOUT INVOKING THE 25th.
THIS IS REALLY SIGNIFICANT
CONSIDERING THAT PRESIDENT
TRUMP RIGHT NOW HAD COME OUT
JUST YESTERDAY AND SAID, WELL,
WE HAVE NO PLANS TO FIRE ROD
ROSENSTEIN.
WILL THINGS CHANGE AFTER THIS
STORY?
WHAT ARE THEY DOING AND WHERE
IS THE INVESTIGATION GOING?
WE KNOW INSPECTOR GENERAL
MICHAEL HOROWITZ IS LOOKING
INTO ALLEGATIONS AND
CHALLENGING THESE,
INVESTIGATING THE FBI'S
HANDLING OF THE RUSSIA PROBE,
AND KNOW THAT JOHN HUBER, THE
PROSECUTOR IS LOOKING INTO
NUMBER OF ALLEGATIONS MADE BY
ANDY McCABE AND OTHERS.
THIS IS REALLY TAKING A BIG
TURN.
LOU: IT'S AS IF, SARA, IN PART,
WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO SPECTERS,
TWO PHANTOMS IN ALL OF THIS,
WHEN YOU MENTIONED JOHN HUBER
AND MICHAEL HOROWITZ, THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL.
WE'RE EXPECTING SOME RESULT
FROM THEIR INVESTIGATION, BUT
TRUE TO FORM AT THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT THAT HAS ARISEN
PARTICULARLY FROM THE OBAMA
YEARS, HIGHLY POLITICIZED
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS
BECOME THE PLACE WHERE TRUTH
GOES TO DIE, AND DIE IT DOES.
FURTHER IT IS THE BENGHAZI
INVESTIGATION, WHETHER IT IS
MICHAEL HOROWITZ INVESTIGATION,
EVEN THOUGH HE'S PRODUCED AN
INITIAL REPORT OF CONSIDERABLE
BOTH INTEREST AND IMPORTANCE,
SO MUCH NEEDS TO BE DONE, JOHN
HUBER, I MEAN, I CAN'T EVEN
IMAGINE WHAT HE'S ABOUT, CAN
YOU?
>> NO, I CAN'T.
AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY SO
MANY PEOPLE, SO MANY LAWMAKERS
ARE CALLING FOR A SECOND
SPECIAL COUNSEL, TO INVESTIGATE
THE INVESTIGATORS, AND THERE'S
BEEN A DEBATE BACK AND FORTH AS
YOU KNOW, LOU, AS TO WHETHER OR
NOT THAT'S FEASIBLE, HOW LONG
IT WOULD TAKE?
BUT THERE REALLY IS NOBODY
ABOVE.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ROD
ROSENSTEIN, THIS IS THE GUY IN
CHARGE OF THE RUSSIA PROBE
RIGHT NOW, RIGHT?
WE KNOW JEFF SESSIONS RECUSED
HIMSELF FROM EVERYTHING RUSSIA
AND APPEARS TO RECUSE HIMSELF
FROM ALMOST EVERYTHING,
EVERYTHING.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S ENORMOUS
FRUSTRATION ABOUT THIS AND WITH
ALL OF THIS NEW INFORMATION
SURFACING, ROD ROSENSTEIN
EXPECTING TO BE BEFORE
LAWMAKERS OCTOBER 11th.
HE ANSWERED THEIR QUESTIONS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THEY THINK,
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
BE PUSHING FORWARD.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO INVESTIGATE
THIS?
HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET TO THE
TRUTH OF THE MATTER?
LOU: LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT IS THE
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN MICHAEL
SUSMAN, THE ATTORNEY FOR THE
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE,
THE TOP DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVE.
THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN HIS
FIRM, PERKINS COIE, AND FUSION
GPS, THE SMEAR EMERGENCE BEHIND
WITH GLENN REYNOLDS, THE
CHRISTOPHER STEELE, PHONY
DOSSIER, THAT THEY USED, THEY
BEING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
AND THE FBI, TO SECURE WARRANTS
FOR WIRETAPS FROM THE FISA
COURT.
>> WELL, THIS IS WHAT'S SO
INCREDIBLE.
THIS IS THE -- ANOTHER BIG
EXPLOSIVE PART OF JAMES BAKER'S
TESTIMONY.
HE BASICALLY OFFERED UP,
ACCORDING TO SOURCES THAT I'VE
SPOKEN WITH, THIS RELATIONSHIP
WITH MICHAEL SUSMAN, ATTORNEY
FOR PERKINS COIE, A CUTOUT FOR
THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL
COMMITTEE AND THE HILLARY
CLINTON CAMPAIGN THAT ACTUALLY
PAID FOR FUSION GPS TO
INVESTIGATE THE ALLEGED
COLLUSION BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP
AND RUSSIA.
LOU: FOR AN ESTIMATED $12
MILLION.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
AN ESTIMATED $12 MILLION.
AND WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT
MICHAEL SUSMAN DELIVERED A HARD
DRIVE AND HARD COPY DOCUMENTS
BASED ON THE RUSSIA HACKING
INVESTIGATION TO JAMES BAKER.
HE BASICALLY DELIVERED
DOCUMENTS, POSSIBLE OFFSHOOT OF
THE DOSSIER TO JAMES BAKER.
JAMES BAKER TAKES INFORMATION
AND DELIVERS IT TO THE HEAD OF
THE COUNTERINTELLIGENCE
DIVISION, NONE OTHER THAN PETER
STRZOK WORKING IN THAT DIVISION
AND BILL PRESTIP, PART OF THE
DIVISION AT THE TIME.
DAVID CORRIN WHO DELIVERED A
DOSSIER TO HIM.
THERE WERE ALL THE DOSSIERS
FLOATING AROUND WASHINGTON,
D.C.
THEY HAD SIMILAR INFORMATION
BUT VERY INDIFFERENT.
LOU: EXCEPT THEY WERE
FRAUDULENT.
>> AND FED TO THE FBI.
LOU: SARA, THANKS FOR BEING
WITH US, AS WE CONTINUE TO
WATCH THIS UNFOLD.