COHEN TO LIE TO >>> JOINING US, SENIOR MEMBER OF
THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND JBT
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND NEW
MEMBER OF THE ETHICS COMMITTEE,
TED DEUTCH.
TED DEUTCH. WE TRADED UP DEUTCHES, WE LOST
DONNIE AND GOT A CONGRESSMAN.
>> WORKED OUT FOR ME.
WE WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS
REPORT FROM BUZZFEED NEWS THAT
CITES TWO LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICIALS INVOLVED IN THE
INVESTIGATION AS SAYING THAT THE
PRESIDENT, DONALD TRUMP,
DIRECTED MICHAEL COHEN TO LIE TO
CONGRESS ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION
OF THIS TRUMP TOWER MOSCOW.
IF TRUE, IF CONFIRMED AND THERE
IS A LOT OF BACKING UP IN HERE
TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL KNOWS, NOT JUST
TESTIMONY FROM MICHAEL COHEN BUT
INNER WITNESSES AND E MALES-MAIL
THE TEBSXTS FROM THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION, IF TRUE, WHAT DOES
THIS MEAN NOW?
>> IF TRUE, IT’S MORE EVIDENCE
THAT THE PRESIDENT VIOLATED HIS
OATH OF OFFICE.
THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T TAKE AN
OATH TO BE ABOVE THE LAW, IF HE
SUB
SUB SUB
SUB SUBORNED PERJURY.
SUBORNED PERJURY. WE ASKED WHETHER IT WAS HOW BAD
IT WAS WHEN HE ALLEGEDLY
COMMITTED A FELONY IN ORDER TO
WIN THE WHITE HOUSE, WELL, THIS
IS MORE EVIDENCE THE HOUSE JBT
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IS FULLY
READY TO START HOLDING HEARINGS
TO EXPLORE THESE ISSUES.
MUELLER HAS A HEAD START ON THIS
BUT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DO
OUR JOB TO DETERMINE EXACTLY
WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
>> YOU SAY IT’S ACES SERIOUS AS
GETS.
GETS. DOES THAT MEAN IMPEACHABLE?
>> IF THE PRESIDENT VIOLATED THE
OATH OF OFFICE AND OBSTRUCTED
JUSTICE, ULTIMATELY THE QUESTION
IS WHAT IS CONGRESS GOING TO DO
ABOUT IT?
ABOUT IT? WE HAVE -- AND THE FOLLOW-UP
QUESTION, WHICH IS THE ONE WE’VE
ALL BEEN ASKING, IF IT’S CLEAR
THAT HE BROKE THE LAW, WILL
THERE BE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE
WILLING TO STAND UP FOR THE
CONSTITUTION AND THE OATH OF
OFFICE THAT THE PRESIDENT
APPEARS TO HAVE VIOLATED.
>> THAT’S THE REPUBLICANS.
BUT IF THE MUELLER REPORTS
REVEALS THAT THE PRESIDENT SUB
SUBORNED PERJURY, SHOULD HE BE
IMPEACHED?
IMPEACHED? >> IF THE PRESIDENT VIOLATED THE
LAW, CERTAINLY THAT’S GOING TO
GO INTO THE WHOLE DISCUSSION WE
HAVE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT HE,
THE PRESIDENT, SHOULD CONTINUE
TO BE IN OFFICE.
>> THAT ALONE DOES NOT WARRANT
IMPEACHMENT?
IMPEACHMENT? >> WHAT WE HAVE TO REALIZE IS
THAT ALONE IS NOT ALL THAT WE’VE
GOT.
GOT. WHEN WE SAY WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR
THE MUELLER REPORT, THIS IS
DAMNING AND IT’S TERRIBLE.
THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT TOLD
MICHAEL COHEN, HIS COVER-UP
LAWYER, TO GO AND TO COMMIT A
FELONY IN ORDER FOR HIM TO GET
THE PRESIDENCY AND THEN TRIED TO
COVER THAT UP, THOSE TWO THINGS
ARE AWFUL ENOUGH, THAT’S BEFORE
YOU EVEN GET TO THE MUELLER
REPORT AND RUSSIA AND ALL OF THE
HUGE NEWS THAT’S BROKEN ON
RUSSIA.
RUSSIA. >> WHAT ABOUT THE STORMY DANIELS
SNAMTS.
SNAMTS. >> SO PART-- PAYMENTS.
>> PART OF THE PROBLEM FROM
SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT LOOKING TO
TEAR TRUMP APART.
THERE WERE TWO PROBLEMS WITH THE
PRECEDING STORIES.
PRECEDING STORIES. THE STORMY DANIELS THING APPEARS
TO BE A CAMPAIGN FINANCE
VIOLATION.
VIOLATION. COMEY FIRED THE PRESIDENT, THE P
WITHIN HIS CONSTITUTIONAL
AUTHORITY TO FIRE OFFICIALS OF
THE EXIT HAVE BRANCH.
SUBORNATION OF PERJURY ON A
QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT HE
WAS HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
AN OFFICE BUILDING IN MOSCOW
DOES NOT RISE TO THE LEVEL OF
THE PRESIDENT EXERCISING HIS
CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY AND IS
NOT THE SORT OF THING THAT NO
ONE HAS EVER BEEN SUCCESSFULLY
PROSECUTED BEFORE.
PROSECUTED BEFORE. >> CAN I JUST PUSH BACK A LITTLE
ON THIS SUGGESTION THAT THERE
ARE LAWS THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN
VIOLATE THAT AREN’T THAT
SERIOUS, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY
YOUR ARGUMENT.
YOUR ARGUMENT. WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO WRITE OFF,
WELL, IT’S JUST A CAMPAIGN
FINANCE VIOLATION AND WE
SHOULDN’T OVERTURN AN ELECTION,
REMEMBER IT’S A VIOLATION THAT
THE PRESIDENT COMMITTED IN ORDER
TO WIN THE WHITE HOUSE.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT IT’S JUST
SUB
SUB SUBORNING PERJURY, SHOULDN’T WE
TELL THE PEOPLE --
>> I’M JUST MAKING A POLITICAL
ARGUMENT.
ARGUMENT. THE REPUBLICANS HAVE A STRONG
ARM CASE TO MAKE YOU DON’T
OVERTURN AN ELECTION FOR A
CAMPAIGN FINANCE VIOLATION.
>> LET’S TAKE A BRIEF BREAK FROM
THAT.
THAT. CAN YOU GIVE US AN ACCURATE
READOUT ON OUR POLICY IN SYRIA.
WE JUST LOST FOUR AMERICANS TWO
DAYS AGO.
DAYS AGO. >>I WISH I COULD.
>> YOU CAN’T?
>> I CAN’T.
AND IT NOT FOR LACK’S NOT FOR LA
WE HAVE SPENT THE LAST TWO YEARS
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS
ADMINISTRATION’S POLICY IS IN
SYRIA AND WE WERE SPECIFICALLY
TOLD BY THE ADMINISTRATION AT A
HEARING JUST WEEKS AGO, WE WERE
SPECIFICALLY TOLD THAT WE
WEREN’T GOING TO QUICKLY PULL
OUR TROOPS OUT AND RISK HAVING
THE IRANIANS AND THE RUSSIANS
HAVE THEIR WAY IN SYRIA.
THE PRESIDENT MADE THAT
ANNOUNCEMENT, OTHERS IN THE
ADMINISTRATION MADE OTHER
ANNOUNCEMENTS.
ANNOUNCEMENTS. WE DON’T KNOW.
AND THERE’S SO MUCH AT STAKE FOR
THE UNITED STATES THERE AND THE
TRAGIC LOSS OF THESE BRAVE
AMERICANS IS A REMINDER OF HOW