NEIL: TREY, BE SAFE AS I ALWAYS
SAY, YOU PROBABLY ARE SICK OF
IT, BUT I WORRY.
AND JUST BACK FROM UKRAINE,
LEADING A SMALL DELEGATION,
THEY WANTED TO GET TO THE
BOTTOM OF WHAT WAS GOING ON,
HELP THE FOLKS WHERE NEEDED AND
GENERAL KIND ENOUGH TO JOIN US.
GENERAL, OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE
PROBABLY A LOT OF JET LAG AND
WE APPRECIATE YOU SHARING YOUR
JOURNEY WITH US.
WHAT CAN YOU TELL US?
WHAT DID YOU LEARN?
>> YEAH, NEIL, THANKS FOR
HAVING ME THIS MORNING.
BOTTOM LINE, THE UKRAINIANS
WANT TO FIGHT.
THEY DON’T WANT U.S. TROOPS,
THEY DON’T WANT N.A.T.O.
TROOPS, ALL THEY WANT IS
EQUIPMENT AND THEY’LL FIGHT
THIS TO THE END.
IT’S CLEAR TO THEM THIS IS AN
AGGRESSIVE RUSSIAN MOVE
TARGETED ON CIVILIANS AND
INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE WENT OUT PRETTY FAR TO THE
NORTHEAST, AND WE SAW SOME
ABSOLUTE INCREDIBLE DESTRUCTION
OUT THERE BY THE RUSSIANS.
IT WAS TARGETED ON
INFRASTRUCTURE, IT WAS TARGETED
ON HOSPITALS.
IT WAS TARGETED ON SCHOOLS.
IN FACT, THE MAYOR OF KYIV TOLD
US LATER THAT THIS IS GENOCIDE
AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE LOOKED
AT WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN OVER
THERE, I BELIEVE IT’S VERY
IMPORTANT WE GET THEM THE
EQUIPMENT TO FIGHT BECAUSE I
THINK WE’RE ON THE CUSP AND
PROBABLY GOING TO COME OUT IN
JUST A COUPLE OF MONTHS WHEN WE
GET INTO THE SPRING AND SUMMER
AND THEN THE FALL, THIS IS
GOING TO BE A FIGHT TO THE END.
UKRAINIANS ARE NOT GOING TO
NEGOTIATE, THEY HAVE NO
INTENTION TO NEGOTIATE.
THEY WANT TO EJECT RUSSIAN FORCES FROM UKRAINE, I DON’T
FORCES FROM UKRAINE, I DON’T
CARE IF THE DONBAS OR CRIMEA.
IT’S A COMMITTED NATION.
IF ANYBODY DOUBTS THEIR LOYALTY
TO UKRAINE, THEY’RE BADLY
MISTAKEN.
AS I SAID, I THINK IT’S A FIGHT
TO THE FINISH.
NEIL: YOU’VE BEEN RIGHT ALONG
THE WAY HERE AND GENERAL, IF
THEY’RE ADAMANT NOT GIVING UP
AN INCH OF LAND OR LETTING THE
RUSSIANS HAVE AN INCH OF LAND
AND VLADIMIR PUTIN IS ADAMANT
UNLEASHING HOLY HELL ON
CIVILIANS.
HE’S NOT GOING ANYWHERE, WHAT’S
THE END GAME HERE?
>> YEAH, HERE IS WHERE I THINK
THE END GAME IS, NEIL.
I THINK EVICTING THE RUSSIANS
FROM UKRAINE, I THINK THEY’VE
GOT THE CAPACITY TO DO IT,
THEY, THE UKRAINIANS WITH THEIR
THE FIGHTING SPIRIT, IF THEY’VE
GOT THE KIT.
AND THEY’VE GOT THEM ON THEIR
HEELS.
IF THE UKRAINIANS CAN GET THEM
ON THE FEEL, FROM DONBAS OR
CRIMEA, PUTIN FALLS.
AND IT UKRAINE IS THE SECOND
LARGEST COUNTRY IN EUROPE AND I
SAW THAT DRIVING THAT COMMITTED
TO FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY AND
THEY RECOGNIZE THEY’VE GOT
ISSUES WITH THINGS THAT HAVE
HAPPENED IN THE PAST, WITH, YOU
KNOW, ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES GOING
ON.
THEY UNDERSTAND THAT.
THEY’RE TRYING TO CORRECT IT,
BUT, BOY, I TELL YOU, THE
MILITARY IS A FIGHTING
MILITARY.
I SAW IT FIRSTHAND.
WE GOT PRETTY DARN CLOSE TO THE
AREA WHAT THEY CALL THE SORRY
LINE IS, WE USED TO CALL THE
LINE OF CONTACT AND THERE’S NO
DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT THEY’RE
COMMITTED TO THIS FIGHT AND
FIGHT UNTIL THE END.
ONE OF THESE TWO SIDES IS GOING
TO WIN.
I DON’T THINK THERE’S GOING TO
BE ANYTHING TO NEGOTIATE.
I DON’T THINK THERE’S ANY
NEGOTIATIONS DESPITE WHAT
PEOPLE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
ZELENSKYY IS NOT GOING TO DO IT
AND NEITHER IS PUTIN.
NEIL: WE DON’T HAVE A LOT OF
TIMES, BUT ELSE THAT VLADIMIR
PUTIN HAD SAID THAT WE CROSSED
A RED LINE, THAT IS US, THE
UNITED STATES, AND BY
EXTENSION, GERMANY, PROVIDING
TANKS, ABRAMS TANKS ON OUR PART
AND ADVANCED TANKS THAT THE
GERMANS ARE PROVIDING, THAT
THAT WAS A RED LINE.
WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THAT?
AND WHAT IS HE THREATENING?
>> WELL, I DON’T KNOW WHAT HE
MEANS BY IT, BUT HE’S THE ONE
WHO CROSSED THE RED LINE.
HE IS THE ONE WHO INVADED
UKRAINE.
UKRAINE DID NOT INVADE RUSSIA,
WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT IT HE’S
TRIED TO INTIMIDATE THE
ALLIANCE AND THE UNITED STATES
AS WELL WHEN HE SAYS CROSSED A
RED LINE, HE’S TALKING ABOUT
IT, HE’S SHIFTING THE RED LINE
AND TRYING TO GET US AFRAID OF
HIS NUCLEAR OPTION.
I WOULDN’T BE AFRAID OF THAT AT
ALL.
I THINK WE’RE IN GOOD POSITION
TO PUSH BACK ON HIM AND I THINK
THAT UKRAINE IS ON A GOOD
POSITION TO PUSH BACK ON HIM.
HIS TALK IS ALL BLUSTER.
HE’S GOT A MAJOR PROBLEM ON HIS
FIFTH MILITARY COMMANDER IN
UKRAINE, FILLING IN NOW, AS A
SENIOR FOUR STAR FIGHTING FOR
THE RUSHES SHUNSRUSSIANS THERE.
HIS ARMY IS BADLY DAMAGED,
150,000 AND FIGHTING IN HUMAN
WAYS AND TRADITIONAL WAY THE
RUSSIANS FIGHT AND ARTILLERY
AND MASS WAVE ATTACKS.
NEIL: IT’S CRAZY GENERAL,
YOU’RE THE BRAVE MAN THAT YOU
ARE, THANK YOU FOR THIS AND