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BRUCE JEN.
>>BRUCE HAMILTON: THANKFULLY NO
THE HOUSE IS SET TO VOTE WITHIN
A MATTER OF HOURS TO CHARGE THE
PRESIDENT WITH INCITING
VIOLENCE AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT
OF THE UNITED STATES.
VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE
REFUSED TO STRIP THE PRESIDENT
OF HIS POWERS INVOLVING THE
25TH AMENDMENT AND A GROWING
NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS ARE
JOINING THE RANKS OF THOSE
CALLING FOR IMPEACHMENT.
MEANTIME, THERE IS A MOVEMENT
TO THIS BAR, FORMER NEW YORK
MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI IN THE
STATE OF NEW YORK FOLLOWING HIS
CALL FOR TRIAL BY COMBAT AT
THAT RALLY JUST BEFORE THE
CAPITOL RIOTS. NEWS 4 JAX
POLITICAL ANALYST AND THE HEAD
OF THE JACKSONVILLE UNIVERSITY
PUBLIC POLICY INSTITUTE RICK
MULLANY JOINS ME HERE IN THE
MORNING SHOW. SO WRECKED LET’S
START WITH THE ACTION IN THE
HOUSE. UNLIKE MISTER TRUMP’S
FIRST IMPEACHMENT IN
2019. FEW REPUBLICANS WERE
WILLING TO MUSTER A DEFENSE OF
MISTER
TRUMP’S ACTIONS. MORE
REPUBLICANS ARE NOW JOINING
THIS EFFORT IN DECLARING THE
PRESIDENT UNFIT FOR OFFICE.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS.
IT IS NOT ABOUT A DIVIDED AND
POLARIZED AMERICA. IT IS ABOUT
AN ACT OF VIOLENCE AGAINST
CONGRESS AGAINST THE PEOPLE
AFTER THE PRESIDENT AND THE GOP
HAD BEEN FUELING THE STOP THE
STEAL MOVEMENT FOR WEEKS RIGHT
UNTIL THE FINAL MOMENT. THE
PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND THAT. WELL AS YOU
MENTIONED WHAT’S GOING ON NOW
IS VERY VERY DIFFERENT FROM
WHAT HAPPENED IN THE
IMPEACHMENT A YEAR AGO AND I
BELIEVE THERE’S A GROWING
RECOGNITION IN CONGRESS.
>> AND WITH THE PUBLIC THAT THE
PRESIDENT’S CONDUCT HERE IS
VERY SERIOUS AND THAT ARE VERY
COMPELLING CASE HAS BEEN MADE
THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS
COMMITTED IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES
AND THAT’S GROWING RECOGNITION
AMONG REPUBLICANS REPUBLICAN
COMMENTATORS AND WITH THE
PUBLIC AT LARGE YESTERDAY,
LIZ CHENEY, THE 3RD RANKING
REPUBLICAN IN THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES SAID SHE WOULD
BE VOTING FOR IMPEACHMENT
IN HER STATEMENT SHE TALKED
ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S ROLE IN
BRINGING THIS MOB TOGETHER A
WEEK AGO AND INCITING THE MOB
OTHER REPUBLICANS APPOINTED TO
HIS ROLE IN TRYING TO GET VICE
PRESIDENT PENCE
TO BASICALLY OVERTURNED THE
ELECTORAL VOTES OF MANY STATES
SENDING THEM BACK TO THE STATES
SOMETHING THE VICE PRESIDENT
REFUSED
TO DO AND SOMETHING THAT IS
CLEARLY AT ODDS WITH THE
REQUIREMENTS OF ARTICLE 2 OF
THE CONSTITUTION AND THE 12TH
AMENDMENT AND OTHERS HAVE
POINTED TO HIS ROLE AT THE TIME
OF
THE RIOT IN FAILING TO QUIET
THE RIGHT AND IN FACT WITH THIS
STATEMENT POSSIBLY MAKING IT
WORSE SO AS A RESULT IN SHARP
CONTRAST TO LAST YEAR TODAY
WHEN THE VOTE IS TAKEN YOU’RE
GOING TO SEE ACCORDING TO THE
WHITE HOUSE 20 OR MORE
REPUBLICANS MAY VERY WELL VOTE
FOR IMPEACHMENT IF THERE’S IF
AND WHEN THERE’S A TRIAL IN THE
SENATE. YOU CAN SEE A NUMBER
OF REPUBLICANS. THIS IS IN
SHARP CONTRAST TO LAST YEAR IN
WHICH NO REPUBLICANS VOTED FOR
IMPEACHMENT IN THE HOUSE AND
ONLY MITT ROMNEY DID IN THE
SENATE. SO THIS YEAR VERY
DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR.
SO BASICALLY THE PRESIDENT’S
GIVEN HIS
PARTY LITTLE.
>>BRUCE HAMILTON: DIRECTION OR
REASON TO RALLY AROUND HIM
THERE IS NO VOTER FRAUD.
THIS AMOUNTS TO INSURRECTION
AND BORDERS ON
A COUP. SO HOW THE GOP MEMBERS
STANDING BY HIM RECONCILE THAT
I MEAN YOU HAVE DEVIN
NUNEZ SAYING PRESIDENTS
MAKE MISTAKES.
>> WELL WELL BRUCE I THINK A
NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS WHO ARE
OPPOSED TO IMPEACHMENT STEP
BACK AND ASK THE BIG QUESTION.
WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS
OF THE COUNTRY AND WHAT IS THE
PURPOSE OF IMPEACHMENT. THE
PURPOSE OF IMPEACHMENT OF
COURSE IS TO REMOVE SOMEONE
FROM OFFICE HERE ONE WEEK FROM
TODAY, THE PRESIDENT WILL BE
OUT OF OFFICE IF
HE WAS GOING TO BE IN OFFICE
FOR A YEAR AS OPPOSED TO ONE
WEEK. THOSE REPUBLICANS MAY BE
TAKING A VERY DIFFERENT POINT
OF VIEW THEY SAY HE’S GOING TO
BE OUT OF OFFICE ANYWAY, THEN
THEY TURNED TO WHAT IT DOES TO
THE NATION.
THE DIVISIVENESS IN THE NATION
AND THAT THE TRIAL WOULD TAKE
PLACE AFTER HE’S OUT OF OFFICE
WHICH IN THEIR VIEW WOULD BE
MORE ABOUT POLITICAL POLITICAL
VINDICTIVENESS THEN
ACCOMPLISHING A LEGITIMATE
PURPOSE. SO FOR THOSE
REPUBLICANS OPPOSED TO
IMPEACHMENT THEY TAKE A LOOK AT
THE TIME FRAME THEY TAKE A LOOK
AT THE DIVISIVENESS TO THE
NATION AND THEY ASK WHAT IS THE
BASIC PURPOSE OF THIS
IMPEACHMENT.
>>BRUCE HAMILTON: TIMING THIS
TRIAL REMAINS UNCLEAR REALLY
THINK THIS LANDS.
WELL FOR MEMBER THIS THE SENATE
IS IN RECESS UNDER THE
CONSTITUTION OF COURSE TODAY
THE HOUSE WILL VOTE ON
IMPEACHMENT IT THEN MOVES TO
THE SENATE THEY ARE IN RECESS.
MITCH MCCONNELL HAS ALREADY
STATED THAT FOR THEM TO COME
BACK INTO RECESS IN EMERGENCY
SESSION 100 SENATORS WOULD HAVE
TO AGREE THAT’S NOT GOING TO
HAPPEN. THEREFORE THEY’RE
COMING BACK TO WORK NEXT
TUESDAY, JOE BIDEN BECOMES
PRESIDENT ON WEDNESDAY. SO ANY
TRIAL IN THE SENATE WILL TAKE
PLACE AFTER PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS
LEFT OFFICE. WE ASK ABOUT RUDY GIULIANI DEVELOPMENTS SURROUNDING GIULIANI R A
SIGNIFICANT FALL FROM GRACE FOR
A MAN WHO ONCE SERVED AS U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
WENT ON TO SERVE 2 TERMS AS THE
CITY’S MAYOR HE WAS CALLED
AMERICA’S MAYOR
STATE SENATOR. BRAD HELLMAN
FILED A FORMAL REQUEST WITH THE
STATE COURT SYSTEM TO BEGIN THE
PROCESS OF DISBARMENT.
THERE’S WHAT’S CALLED AN
HISTORIC INVESTIGATION UNDER
WAY ARE THERE SUFFICIENT
GROUNDS TO HAVE
HIM DISBARRED.
>> YOU KNOW BRUCE HARD TO SAY
WHETHER SUFFICIENT BUT I
THERE’S
MULTIPLE GROUNDS OVER A YEAR
AGO AN INVESTIGATION APPARENTLY
WAS BEGUN ARE ALLEGATIONS WERE
MADE COMPLAINTS MISTER
GIULIANI’S ROLE IN DEFENDING
THE PRESIDENT IN THE UKRAINE IN
NO WONDER THAT
CRANE MATTER AND THEN IN
NOVEMBER AFTER THE ELECTION
ALLEGATIONS WERE RAISED AGAIN
THAT. MISTER GIULIANI WAS
ENGAGED IN FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS
AND BEING DISHONEST WITH THE
COURT AND NOW OF COURSE HIS
ROLE AT THE RALLY
IN FAIRNESS TO MISTER GIULIANI,
HE HAS A VERY DIFFERENT VIEW OF
THIS. IT’S A VERY HIGH STANDARD
FOR DISBARMENT TYPICALLY A SIGNIFICANT MISCONDUCT EITHER CONVICTION OF A FELONY OR
CONVICTION OF A CRIME INVOLVING
DISHONESTY OR AS THEY SAY MORAL
TURPITUDE THAT’S A VERY HIGH
STANDARD WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO
WAIT AND SEE WHAT THAT
INVESTIGATION TURNS OUT I’M
RUNNING OUT OF TIME, BUT I’VE
GOT TO ASK YOU HE BASICALLY
ADVOCATED OVERTHROWING THE
GOVERNMENT WHEN HE
TOLD PEOPLE.
>>BRUCE HAMILTON: OUTSIDE THE
HALLS OF THE CAPITOL TO LET’S
TO COMBAT DOESN’T VIOLATE THE
CODE
OF ETHICS.
>> WELL BRUCE HIS VIEW WOULD BE
VERY DIFFERENT HE WOULD ARGUE
THAT HE WASN’T ARGUING FOR AN
OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT IN
FACT HE WOULD ARGUE HE WAS
TRYING TO PRESERVE THE
GOVERNMENT AND HE WAS TRYING TO
DO IT IN A FAIR WAY LIKE I SAID
WE’RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIS VIEW
OF TRIAL BY COMBAT WAS HE DID
NOT MEAN THAT LITERALLY HE
MEANT A FIGHTING SPIRIT TO
PROTECT WHAT’S GOING ON AND THE
INTEGRITY OF THE ELECTION THAT
WILL BE HIS ARGUMENT. THESE
INVESTIGATIONS ARE TYPICALLY
CONFIDENTIAL WE’RE GOING TO