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CHARLES: BIG BROTHER, WELL, IT'S
COMING.
ALTHOUGH NOT AS SOON AS A LOT OF
PEOPLE THOUGHT FOR THE
GOVERNMENT, PERHAPS.
THAT'S BECAUSE A SUPREME COURT
RULING NOW REQUIRING POLICE TO
GET A WARRANT TO OBTAIN MOBILE
PHONE LOCATION DATA.
THAT'S GOING TO SLOW THAT PART
OF IT DOWN.
BUT THERE'S SOME OTHER PARTS OF
THIS ISSUE THAT ARE ALSO PRETTY
INTERESTING INCLUDING THE FACIAL
RECOGNITION SOFTWARE BOOM.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S EVEN MORE
THREATENING, TO ME, BECAUSE IT'S
NOT ONLY ALLOWING PRIVATE
COMPANIES TO PLAY THE ROLE OF
BIG BROTHER, BUT SOONER OR LATER
EVERYONE WILL BE BIG BROTHER.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO
ABOUT IT?
LET'S BRING IN TWO OF THE BEST,
KIRK NEWTON, A CYBER GUY, MORGAN
WRIGHT, CYBERSECURITY EXPERT,
FORMER STATE TROOPER.
KURT, FIRST ON SUPREME COURT
RULING, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF IT?
>> THERE'S AN EASY WAY TO BE A
PROPONENT OR POINT FOR EITHER --
OR OPPONENT FOR EITHER SIDE.
THE SUPREME COURT TODAY CAME
DOWN AND SAID LAW ENFORCEMENT
CAN NO LONGER USE THIS RULE THAT
SAYS THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT
USING A WARRANT AND YOU AND I OR
ANOTHER COMPANY MIGHT BE WILLING
TO SELL US CELL PHONE DATA, THAT
THEY ACQUIRE FROM VERIZON,
SPRINT, AT&T AND THE LIKES, THEY
CONSIDER THAT NO LONGER
ACCEPTABLE.
THEY WILL NOW IN THE FUTURE HAVE
TO GET A WARRANT FOR THAT
INFORMATION.
THAT'S A WIN FOR PRIVACY
ADVOCATES.
IT DOES NOT CHANGE WHAT OUR BIG
CONCERN WOULD BE LIKE, HEY, WAIT
A MINUTE, DID YOU JUST STOP OUR
OWN NATIONAL SECURITY FROM BEING
ABLE TO PROTECT US BY, YOU KNOW,
KEEPING AN EYE ON BAD GUYS?
THE FACT IS, NO, THIS CHANGE IS
NOTHING RELATED TO THAT.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT,
IN FACT.
SO I SEE THIS AS A PLUS FOR
PRIVACY AND NOT A BIG WITHDRAW
IN TERMS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
ACCESS.
THOSE WHO WORK IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT ON A LOCAL LEVEL
AREN'T GOING TO LIKE THIS ONE
BIT THOUGH.
CHARLES: MORGAN, YOUR THOUGHTS?
>> LOOK, KURT GOT A LOT OF THAT
RIGHT, BUT I WILL TELL YOU
THERE'S ANOTHER THING TOO,
KURT -- OR, CHARLES.
I WAS OUT IN SAN FRANCISCO TWO
YEARS AGO AT THE RSA CONFERENCE
WHICH THEN-ATTORNEY GENERAL
LORETTA LYNCH WAS TALKING ABOUT
APPLE.
NO ONE COMPANY SHOULD BE ABLE TO
DETERMINE THE NATIONAL SECURITY
INTERESTS OF THE UNITED STATES.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS A
LOT OF LAWFUL TECHNIQUES.
THE BIGGER ISSUE IS GOING TO BE
WHETHER OR NOT THE SUPREME COURT
RULING IS GOING TO HAVE A
CHILLING EFFECT ON COMPANIES
WORKING WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT
EXCEPT ON EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES
WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT
MISSING CHILDREN, CRIMINAL
CASES, ACTIVE SHOOTER CASES,
ONGOING TYPES OF -- WHEN IT'S
TERRORISM, THE FBI'S GOING TO
GET INVOLVED.
LOOK, BEING A FORMER COP 18
YEARS, A LOT OF THIS HAPPENS
WHEN LAW ENFORCEMENT PUSHES IT
TO THE EDGE.
THEY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE GOT A
WARRANT, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND,
WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL WE DON'T
HANDCUFF LAW ENFORCEMENT TOO
MUCH BECAUSE WHEN THE WOLF COMES
KNOCKING ON THE DOOR, I DON'T
WANT PEOPLE GOING, WELL, WHY
DIDN'T YOU STOP IT?
DON'T HANDCUFF MY HANDS BEHIND
MY BACK.
CHARLES: RIGHT.
ANOTHER PART OF THE TECHNOLOGY
WORLD I FIND INTRIGUING THIS
WEEK, A COUPLE OF DUELING
STORIES N. CHINA THEY'RE TAKING
THIS MASSIVE SURVEILLANCE, USING
FACIAL RECOGNITION, THEY'RE
TAKING IT DOWN INTO THEIR SUBWAY
SYSTEM.
THEY ALREADY HAVE IT WHERE COPS
WEAR DARK SUNGLASSES AND THEY'RE
SURVEILLING PEOPLE THROUGH
FACIAL RECOGNITION.
IN UNIVERSITIES THEY CAN USE IT
TO TELL IF STUDENTS ARE MOTIVATE
OR BORED.
AND NOW IN AMERICA WE'RE
STARTING TO GET A LITTLE BIT
CONCERNED HERE.
YOU'VE GOT THIS SOFTWARE OUT
THERE THAT ALLOWS COMPANIES TO
USE FACIAL RECOGNITION, AND IN A
SENSE, THEY'RE TAKING BIG STEPS
TOWARD A PRIVATE COMPANY BEING
BIG BROTHER, SOMETHING THAT
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN AFRAID OF.
>> THEY ARE.
AND YOU DIDN'T MENTION THE BIG
ONE OUT OF CHINA.
IF YOU LIVE IN CHINA, THEY HAVE
THE ABILITY TO WRITE YOU A
JAYWALKING TICKET WITHIN SECONDS
OF YOU CROSSING THE STREET
ILLEGALLY, AND YOU WILL HAVE TO
PAY IT BECAUSE THEY KNOW WITHIN
SECONDS EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE.
AND WHAT WE'RE AFRAID OF FOR
PRIVACY ADVOCATES IN THE U.S. IS
THAT WOULD BECOME PART OF OUR
STANDARD WAY OF LIVING IN THE
U.S.
WE'RE NOT USED TO THAT KIND OF
MONITORING.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T
WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THE
LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT NEEDS THAT
ACCESS FINISH.
CHARLES: RIGHT.
>> AMAZON IS REALLY AT THE
CENTERPIECE OF THE STORY RIGHT
NOW.
THEY HAVE A TECHNOLOGY CALLED
RECOGNITION USED WITH A K
INSTEAD OF A C, AND THAT IS
REALLY BRILLIANT FACIAL
RECOGNITION TECHNOLOGY THAT, FOR
EXAMPLE, THE MOST RECENT POPULAR
USE OF IT WAS ACTUALLY THE ROYAL
WEDDING.
IT WAS THE IMPLEMENTED TO FIND
OUT -- SINCE THEY DIDN'T GIVE US
THE GUEST LIST -- WHO WOULD BE
WALKING IN THAT CHAPEL OF THE
600 OR SO GUESTS.
CHARLES: MORGAN, ANYBODY CAN BUY
THIS INCLUDING CORPORATIONS AND
EVEN INDIVIDUALS.
>> RIGHT.
CHARLES: AND THERE ARE COMPANIES
WORKING ON ADVANCEMENTS ON THAT,
THAT ESSENTIALLY YOU MIGHT BE
ABLE TO SURVEIL ANYONE YOU
WANTED TO AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
AND SO WE WERE ALWAYS WORRIED
ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT BEING BIG
BROTHER, IT COULD BE YOUR
NEIGHBOR.
>> I MODERATED A PANEL WITH SOME
FOLKS FROM MIT, AND I ASKED A
FORMER NSA HEAD, WHO TO YOU FEAR
MOST, THE NSC AND CIA, OR
GOOGLE, FACEBOOK AND AMAZON?
WITHOUT A DOUBT, IT'S GOOGLE,
FACEBOOK AND AMAZON.
THEY CAPTURE FAR MORE
INFORMATION THAN THE GOVERNMENT
LEGALLY COULD, AND A LOT OF THE
FACIAL RECOGNITION IS OKAY, BUT
IT'S THE BEHAVIOR BASE.
WE'RE MOVING BEYOND JUST FACIAL
RECOGNITION.
I'M DOING SOME WORK ON ADVANCED
ANALYTICS S AND WE'RE LOOKING AT
BEHAVIOR, WE'RE LOOKING AT
CONTEXT THE, SEARCHABLE
CAPABILITIES.
WE'VE JUST GOT TO MAKE SURE WE
DON'T SLOW IT DOWN SO MUCH THAT
WE IMPACT NATIONAL SECURITY AND
PRIVATE, YOU KNOW --
CHARLES: YEAH.
AND JUST ACCEPT THE FACT THAT AT