IN THAT ROOM AND ENJOY THE REST
OF THE SHOW, AND ACCEPT HIS
AWARD, I WAS LIKE, HOW GROSS IS
THIS.
THIS IS JUST THE WRONG MESSAGE,
YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU ASSAULT
SOMEBODY, YOU GET ESCORTED OUT
THE BUILDING, AND THAT'S IT.
BUT FOR THEM TO LET HIM CONTINUE
I THOUGHT IT WAS GROSS.
>> ALL RIGHT.
LET'S PICK UP OUR LITTLE FAMILY
TALK WITH YVETTE NICOLE BROWN,
AND MICHAEL HARROD WHO ARE STILL
WITH ME.
BLACK MEN DIE FROM THIS LEVEL OF
VIOLENCE, IT WAS STRIKING THAT
PEOPLE CELEBRATED THIS AND
CHEERED THEM ON.
I'M STILL TRIGGERED.
I REMEMBER WATCHING AND THINKING
HOW SAD IS THIS TO SEE.
IT STRUCK ME AS A BULLYING.
IT WAS A B.A.N. MOVE.
IT'S HOW I FEEL.
TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE MENTAL
SPACE AND THE MENTAL HEALTH, I
THINK THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT POINT
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE
THINKING WELL, THIS IS HOW WE DO
IT IN THE COMMUNITY, NO, THAT
AIN'T IT, AND IF IT IS, IT
SHOULDN'T BE.
>> LISTEN, THERE'S ALSO A DIVIDE
ABOUT WHETHER YOU SHOULD GET A
WHOOPING AS A KID OR NOT.
EVERYBODY IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY
HAS THEIR OPINION AND WANDA
SYKES, I LOVE HER AND RESPECT
HER OPINION.
PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS
ABOUT HOW THIS PLAYED OUT.
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A ROUGH ONE.
WHEN IT FIRST HAPPENED, I DIDN'T
SPEAK ON IT FOR A GOOD 30 OR 40
MINUTES.
I WAS TRYING TO PROCESS MY
THOUGHTS ABOUT IT.
>> WE WERE TESTING, I REMEMBER.
>> SO LET ME TELL YOU, THE GROUP
STILL LIT, SO IT'S A VERY
DIFFICULT, I DON'T WANT TO
NEGATE ANYONE'S FEELINGS ABOUT
THIS.
I HAVE SPOKEN HOW I FEEL ABOUT
IT.
I UNDERSTAND BOTH MEN.
I CELEBRATE BOTH MEN.
I SUPPORT BOTH MEN.
AND IT'S A PROBLEM IN OUR
COMMUNITY THAT MEN DON'T HAVE
THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS HOW
THEY FEEL.
AND SO IT COMES OUT OFTEN IN
AGGRESSION, NOT JUST ON THE
OSCAR STAGE, ACROSS THE BOARD.
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO
SHOW THEIR OTHER EMOTIONS IN THE
WAY WOMEN ARE.
AND I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL.
SO I THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT WHO
THEY'RE GETTING TO SPEAK TO, HOW
THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THEIR
PAIN, WHAT CHRIS WENT THROUGH AS
A KID.
COME ON, THAT'S A LOT.
>> YEAH, CHRIS WAS BULLIED, HE
WAS BULLIED.
>> IT'S A LOT.
>> SO THIS IS A MAN WHO'S ALMOST
60 YEARS OLD, WHO WAS SLAPPED.
>> SINCE WE HAVE A BLACK MAN ON
THE PANEL, I'M CURIOUS YOUR
THOUGHTS.
WE'RE SAYING, JUST FROM MEN
PROCESSING THEIR EMOTIONS FROM
THAT PERSPECTIVE, WHAT'S YOUR
TAKE FROM THAT ANGLE?
DO YOU THINK THAT PLAYED A ROLE
HERE?
>> YEAH, I DO.
YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING HOW,
YOU KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF DELVED
BACK INTO WILL SMITH'S
BACKGROUND AND HIS RELATIONSHIP
WITH HIS WIFE BUT NOT CHRIS
ROCK'S, RIGHT.
LIKE HE HAS EXPERIENCED
BULLYING, YOU KNOW, FROM
EVERYONE IN HIS LIFE, RIGHT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN
UNDERSTAND, AND THEN WHAT YVETTE
WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, USE
AGGRESSIVENESS AND MACHISMO AS A
FORM OF MENTAL HEALTH IN BLACK
COMMUNITIES, THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT WE, YOU KNOW, BOTH PARTIES
PROBABLY NEED TO ADDRESS, AND
THEN YOU THINK ABOUT CHRIS.
THERE WAS NOTHING THAT CHRIS
COULD DO THAT WOULD HAVE MADE
THIS BETTER, RIGHT.
LIKE HE WAS PUT IN A SITUATION
WHERE THERE WAS NO WAY TO
RESPOND CORRECTLY, RIGHT, IF HE
WOULD HAVE FOUGHT WILL SMITH
AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE
BEEN TWO THUGS UP THERE, RIGHT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHILE I UNDERSTAND
WHAT CHRIS WENT THROUGH, I HAVE
TO ALSO WARN PEOPLE THAT WHAT
HAPPENED ON THIS STAGE DOES NOT
REFLECT ON BLACK PEOPLE.
KAREEM ABDUL GENTLEMAN PAR,
KAREEN ABDUL-JABBAR, WHAT
HAPPENS BETWEEN TWO BLACK MEN
REFLECTS ON BLACK MEN IN THE
HISTORY OF THE WORLD.
IT DOESN'T.
PEOPLE WHO SEE THAT ARE NEVER
GOING TO SEE US AS HUMAN ANYWAY.
THIS IS A THING THAT HAPPENED
BETWEEN TWO MEN, AND WE SAW IT,
WE CAN HAVE OUR OPINIONS BECAUSE
IT HAPPENED ON A PUBLIC STAGE,
IT DOESN'T REFLECT ON ME.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
AND ANYBODY WHO LOOKED AT THIS
AS AN EXCUSE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE
HAD A BAD ATTITUDE ALREADY.
WE DON'T HAVE TO LIVE OUR LIVES
BASED ON WHAT WHITE PEOPLE MIGHT
THINK ABOUT THAT. A LOT OF
PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS,
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DISAGREE
WITH ALL THREE OF US OR AGREE
WITH ALL THREE OF US.