THE STORY WE HAVE BEEN TOLD
ABOUT IVANKA TRUMP IN THE DAY
OF THE JANUARY 6TH INSURRECTION
IS THAT SHE WAS IN THE WHITE
HOUSE AS HER FATHER, THE
PRESIDENT, SAT IN THE PRIVATE
DINING ROOM WATCHING THE RIDE
UNFOLD ON TV.
APPARENTLY, REPORTEDLY, WITH
JOY.
PRESUMABLY, WE CAN ASSUME,
EATING.
AS HE WAS REWRITING THE GOOD
PARTS OF THE DEADLY RIOT WHO
WATCH OVER AGAIN.
THE STORY, AT LEAST AS IT IS
COME DOWN TO US, THROUGH
ANONYMOUS SOURCES LARGELY, IS
THAT IVANKA A PERIODIC WING
INTO THE ROOM TABLE TO SAY
SOMETHING ALONG LINES OF, OH
DADDY, WILL YOU PLEASE DO
SOMETHING TO STOP THIS AWFUL
VIOLENCE AT THE CAPITOL.
ONLY TO BE IGNORED BY THE MAN
WASHING HIS SUPPORTERS
RANSACKED THE CAPITOL ON TV AND
BASH IN THE HEAD OF COPS.
THIS IS ALSO REPORTED, SHE'S
ALSO REPORTED TO DEFEND THE
HONOR OF MIKE PENCE ON A DAY,
CALLING HIM A GOOD MAN.
AND THAT'S MOST OF ALL WE KNOW
ABOUT HER ACTIONS.
THE COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING THE
TRUMP WRIGHT HAS BEEN LOOKING
HERE FROM A VAN HERSELF FOR
OBVIOUS REASONS ABOUT HIS
INTERACTIONS AND EVERYTHING
ELSE SHE WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE
THAT DAY.
TODAY, THEY FINALLY GOT THAT
CHANCE.
AS IVANKA TRUMP FINALLY SAT FOR
AN INTERVIEW WITH THE
COMMITTEE.
SPENDING NEARLY EIGHT HOURS VIA
REMOTE VIDEO LINK.
CONGRESSMAN JAMIE RASKIN IS
DEMOCRAT A MARYLAND WHO SERVES
ON THE JOURNEY WITH THE
COMMITTEE.
HE WAS THERE FOR THE INTERVIEW
AND HE JOINS ME NOW.
CONGRESSMAN, I KNOW YOU CAN'T
GET THE SPECIFICS ON NOT GOING
TO ASK YOU SPECIFICS.
BUT AT LEAST TELL US WHY IVANKA
TRUMP WAS AN IMPORTANT WITNESS
FOR THE COMMITTEE.
>> WELL, CHER THOMPSON SAID
AFTERWARDS THAT SHE WAS A
COOPERATIVE WITNESS AND IN THAT
SENSE, SHE EXEMPLIFIES THE VAST
MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO WE
HAVE CONTACTED, WHO'VE COME
BEFORE THE COMMITTEE, WHO HAVE
TOLD EXACTLY IN A LOT OF CASES
MOSTLY WHAT THEY KNOW IN OTHER
CASES.
BUT, ESSENTIALLY, PEOPLE ARE
COOPERATING.
TOMORROW, I'M TAKING TO THE
FLOOR CONTENT MOTIONS AGAINST
DAN SCAVINO AND PETER NAVARRO
WHO HAVE NOT GIVEN A SINGLE
DOCUMENT AND HAVE NOT SPENT ONE
MINUTE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE AND
ARE ACTING WITH COMPLETE
CONTEMPT FOR THE CONGRESS AND
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO
INSIST UPON EVERYBODY'S
OBLIGATION TO TESTIFY BEFORE
THE COMMITTEE.
BUT THE REMARKABLE THING, TO ME,
IT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE WANT TO
TESTIFY TO UNBURDEN THEMSELVES
AND TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT
TOOK PLACE ON THAT FATEFUL DAY.
>> YOU KNOW, IVANKA TRUMP I
THINK WAS THE LAST BIG POSSIBLE
COOPERATIVE WITNESS THAT WAS
SORT OF DANGLING OUT THERE.
THE CHAIRMAN THOMPSON SAID HE
DIDN'T SEE ANY FOR MIKE PENCE
TO COME TESTIFY.
IT DOES SEEM TO ME LIKE THE BIG
NAMES HAVE ALL EITHER TESTIFIED
OR SORT OF SAID THEY'RE
REFUSING AND ARE NOW EITHER
BEING REFERRED OR IN THE
PROCESS OF BEING REFERRED, IS
THAT A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN
READING PETER NAVARRO'S BOOK.
AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT SOME
OF THE HATREDS THAT HE'S SHOWN
IT TOWARDS EITHER PEOPLE LIKE
JARED KUSHNER OR SIDNEY POWELL,
LAWRENCE MCCONAUGHEY, KIND OF
TRACK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING
COOPERATIVE VERSUS THE KIND OF
COTERIE THE ENTOURAGE AROUND
DONALD TRUMP.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST
FEROCIOUSLY STICKING TO THE BIG
LIE ARE THE ONES WHO ARE LEAST
LIKELY TO COOPERATE.
THE ONES FOR TRYING TO MAINTAIN
THE PRETENSE THAT DONALD TRUMP
WON THE ELECTION, THAT JANUARY
SIX WAS YOU KNOW RIOTERS
PRESENTING FLOWERS AND HUGS AND
KISSES TO THE OFFICERS.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WHO
ARE REFUSING TO PARTICIPATE.
AND THEN THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
WHO SEEM TO WANT TO REJOIN THE
RULE OF LAW AND THE
CONSTITUTIONAL DEMOCRATIC
FRAMEWORK.
AND I THINK IT'S ALSO THE GOOD
THAT THIS MAJOR SCHISM HAS
ERUPTED WITHIN THE RANKS OF THE
REPUBLICANS.
>> YOU KNOW, WHEN THE QUESTION,
AND THIS IS AGAIN, THIS IS ALL
PUBLIC RECORD.
THIS QUESTION OF WHAT EXACTLY
WAS THE PRESIDENT DOING IN THAT
PERIOD OF TIME.
THE COMMITTEE ASKED THAT
QUESTION.
AND YOUR LETTER TO IVANKA TRUMP,
YOU SAID YOUR PRETTY
INTERESTING DISCUSSIONS AT THE
WHITE HOUSE AND WITH THE
PRESIDENT BEFORE AND AFTER HIS
20 4 PM TWEET, THAT'S THE ONE
WHERE HE BASICALLY, POINTS HIS
FURY AT MIKE PENCE SAYING THAT
HE DIDN'T HAVE THE COURAGE TO
DO IT SHOULD'VE BEEN DONE TO
PROTECT OUR COUNTRY IN A
CONSTITUTION.
GIVING STATES A CHANCE TO
CERTIFY A CORRECTIVE SET OF
PACKS, NOT THE FRAUDULENT OR
INACCURATE ONES WHICH THEY WERE
ASKED TO PREVIOUSLY CERTIFY.
USA DEMANDS THE TRUTH.
THERE'S OTHERS WHO HAVE TALKED
ABOUT THE WAY THE PRESIDENT
BEHAVED DURING A PERIOD OF
TIME.
ARE YOU CONFIDENT THAT YOU CAN
ACTUALLY GET TO THE BOTTOM,
THAT YOU WILL HAVE A BODY OF
EVIDENCE THAT LAYS OUT WHAT WAS
GOING ON DURING THAT PERIOD OF
TIME?
>> WELL, WE'RE FILLING IN A LOT
MORE OF THE DETAIL, I WILL TELL
YOU, CHRIS.
I MEAN, I FELT FROM THE DAYS OF
THE SENATE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL
THAT THE TWEETS SPOKE FOR
THEMSELVES.
DONALD TRUMP WAS TRYING TO
INFLAME THE MOB AND FURTHER
UNLEASHED ITS FURY AGAINST MIKE
PENCE.
IT'S WITH A POLITICAL SCIENTIST
CALL, A SELF COUP WHERE THE
PRESIDENT ENGAGES IN A COUP
AGAINST THE CONSTITUTIONAL
SYSTEM.
AND HERE, MIKE PENCE WAS THE
TARGET TO TRY TO FORCE HIM TO
REJECT ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES
FROM ARIZONA, GEORGIA AND
PENNSYLVANIA.
BUT SOME PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR
WHAT DON TRUMP WAS ACTUALLY
SAYING, WHAT'S LED IN TO THOSE
TWEETS.
PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE
BEHIND THE SCENES STRUGGLES AND
I THINK, MORE AND MORE OF THAT
INFORMATION IS SURFACING.
AND OF COURSE, WE DID NO PHONE
CALLS GOING IN FROM FAMILY
MEMBERS AND FROM HIGH-RANKING