REGION, THERE ARE NO PLANS TO
MOVE TROOPS ON TO THE KOREAN
PENINSULA RIGHT NOW.
MARTHA?
>> TRACE, THANK YOU.
HERE WITH MORE, FORMER U.S.
>> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.
>> THERE'S NOTHING COMING BUT
POTENTIAL FOR SOMEBODY DECIDING
TO FIRE FIRST IS TERRIFYING.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF
REASONS WHY THAT PARTICULAR
SCENARIO IS UNREALISTIC BUT IT
DID MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL THE
POSSIBILITY OF WHAT IT MIGHT BE
LIKE THIS WEEKEND.
>> LET'S CUT THROUGH THIS FOR A
MINUTE.
WHAT HAPPENED IN HAWAII WAS BAD
AND NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
WHATEVER TO DO WITH THE U.S.
MILITARY'S NUCLEAR COMMAND AND
CONTROL STRUCTURE.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
SO ALL OF THESE HEADLINES ABOUT
PUSH THE WRONG BUTTON, THAT IS
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AT THE
IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
NOW LET'S TURN TO THE QUESTION
OF WHY PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT A POSSIBLE NORTH KOREAN
CONCERNED ABOUT A POSSIBLE NORTH
KOREAN THREAT, WHETHER THEY PUSH
THE WRONG BUTTON IN HAWAII OR
NOT.
WE'VE HAD TOO BIG A VACATION FOR
TOO LONG APPRECIATING THAT ROGUE
STATES WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS CAN
CAPABILITIES.
THAT'S WHY STOPPING NORTH KOREA,
STOPPING IRAN FROM GETTING
NUCLEAR WEAPONS IS SO IMPORTANT.
SO IF THIS MISTAKE IN HAWAII
DOES ANYTHING, IT OUGHT TO BRING
HOME THE IMPORTANCE OF
PREVENTING NORTH KOREA FROM
GETTING A DELIVERABLE NUCLEAR
WEAPONS CAPABILITY, NOT WORRYING
ABOUT THE INCOMING MISSILES,
MAKING SURE THERE'S NO MISSILES
TO COME IN.
>> Martha: WITH REGARD TO THE
FIRST COMMENT, HERE'S
WITH.
>> THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENED TO HAWAII.
THIS IS WHERE I HOPE THAT PEOPLE
ATTENTION TO WHAT PEOPLE WENT
THROUGH AND WHAT THE
CONSEQUENCES OF THAT CAN BE.
SO WE ARE FACING A VERY DIRECT
NUCLEAR THREAT FROM NORTH KOREA.
>> YEAH.
SHE WENT ON TO ARGUE THAT WE
WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR NORTH KOREA
WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR NORTH KOR A
KOREA'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM.
LATE 80s OR EARLY 1990s.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE KIND OF
IRRESPONSIBLE AND ILL INFORMED
COMMENTARY THAT REALLY MAKES IT
VERY HARD TO ALERT PEOPLE TO THE
REAL DANGERS AND THE IMPORTANT
DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE
TO PREVENT STATES LIKE NORTH
KOREA AND IRAN FROM GETTING
NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
>> Martha: WHAT ABOUT "THE NEW
YORK TIMES" ASSESSMENT THAT
POTENTIALLY INCLUDING PRESIDENT,
THAT WANT TO HAVE -- HE WANTS TO
HAVE OBVIOUSLY ALL THE OPTIONS
READY, BUT HE PREFERS A
>> "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
DISCOVERS REALITY.
EVERYBODY WANTS A PEACEFUL
SOLUTION TO THE NORTH KOREAN
THE MILITARY OPTION.
THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION
BETWEEN THOSE TWO POSITIONS.
NO CONTRADICTION BETWEEN PEOPLE
IN THE ADMINISTRATION THAT HOLD
NORTH KOREA BECOMES, THE MORE
THAT FACT IS APPRECIATED IN
PYONGYANG AND BEIJING, THE
GREATER THE POSSIBILITY THAT
THEY'LL WAKE UP THAT WE'RE NOT
IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AND
DO SOMETHING SERIOUS ABOUT
DENUCLEARIZING NORTH KOREA.
THAT -- THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT
STEP HAS OCCURRED YET.
SO THE QUESTION FOR THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE IS, ARE YOU PREPARED TO
LIVE WITH A NUCLEAR NORTH KOREA?
SUSAN RICE, BARACK OBAMA'S
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER HAS
SAID YES, SHE IS.
I AM NOT.
>> Martha: LET'S TALK ABOUT FOR
A MOMENT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
AN APOSTROPHE D.
LET'S PLAY THESE TWO TAPES.
THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" CLAIMS
HE HAD SAID THAT HE HAD -- I
RELATIONSHIP WITH KIM JONG-UN OF
NORTH KOREA.
HE SAYS -- HE PUT THAT IN THE
FUTURE.
LISTEN TO THESE.
>> I HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP
RELATIONSHIP WITH KIM JONG-UN OF
NORTH KOREA.
>> AS YOU KNOW, I HAVE A GREAT
RELATIONSHIP WITH PRIME MINISTER
ABE OF JAPAN.
AND I PROBABLY HAVE A VERY GOOD
RELATIONSHIP WITH KIM JONG-UN OF
NORTH KOREA.
>> Martha: WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF
THAT AMBASSADOR BOLTON?
>> YOU CAN LISTEN TO THE TAPES A
A GREAT RELATIONSHIP.
PRESIDENT IS AN OPTIMISTIC MAN.
I DON'T THINK HE WOULD.
THAT THEY HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS
AND AFTER THE POSITIONS OF THE
TWO COUNTRIES ARE UNDERSTOOD,
HOW THEY COULD HAVE A GOOD
PREMATURE IN COMING TO ITS
CONCLUSION.
THEY SHOULD HAVE GONE BACK AND
SAID, THIS IS HOW WE HEAR THIS.
DO YOU HEAR IT DIFFERENTLY?
THEY DIDN'T.
THAT'S THEIR PROBLEM.
>> Martha: I THINK THE CONTEXT
OF THE REST OF THE SENTENCE
>> THAT'S THE WAY I HEARD IT.
THAT'S THE BEST I CAN SAY.