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bring in defense attorneys here
in Greenville, Ken Varner, Greg
Bernard. Thank you, Jim, as
always for joining us. I can
Bernard. Thank you, Jim, as always for joining us. I can't I
think your initial reactions
after watching that story, what
were your initial takeaway shop
first. This gentleman was an
innocent person. I understand
what the courts rolled and I
understand the basis for it. But
all this is dependent on a
couple of ways to potentially
dangerous either direction.
I don
dangerous either direction. I don't personally agree with
court decisions in district we
did lose the difficult one.
Not the way I read the decision.
I don
Not the way I read the decision. I don't think it would have
changed the court
I don't think it would have changed the court's ruling but
not gonna change my opinion.
Right. A lot of people may watch
us twice and that just does not
seem fair.
seem fair. You know, it first blush it. It
just doesn
You know, it first blush it. It just doesn't smell right.
You gotta remember we are in a
day and age are qualified
immunity is dwindling rapidly
and in most cases, rightfully
so. Okay.
so. Okay.
so. Okay. But you
so. Okay. But you've got a situation like
this where this innocent hostage
and he
this where this innocent hostage and he's being used as a getaway
driver for this suspect.
It doesn
driver for this suspect. It doesn't sit well with a lot
of people that the truck driver
was shot and if you look, if you
watch the DMC, they were aiming
for him, I think they admitted
that it just doesn
for him, I think they admitted that it just doesn't sit right
there. Now don
that it just doesn't sit right there. Now don't shoot the
heart. Try to get to the
suspect. There was a case and I
think was in York, in which a
person was being used as human
shield, law enforcement. Shatter
the human shield, killing an
innocent person was being held
hostage.
hostage.
hostage. There was no qualified immunity.
Because that was just egregious.
It didn
Because that was just egregious. It didn't smell like zip right
with anybody that had nothing to
do with it. But there was a
massive settlement on the
backside of that. Fast forward
to 2022 2023 to what was
changed? There
to 2022 2023 to what was changed? There's a lot of
pressure to get rid of
qualified.
qualified. How do you apply this instance
and I grapple with that after
hearing this case and watching
the video, you know, understand
they have a duty to protect the
public stop this 1000 pound
logging truck and certainly, you
know, Kevin, I was discussing
that shot the tires with their
shot the engine and I think the
officers some one time said we
shoot the driver of the truck
stop.
stop.
stop. Is
stop. Is there an answer in any of
them?
them?
them? Were there alternatives? We
think so. Are we right or wrong?
We all know that they didn
think so. Are we right or wrong? We all know that they didn't
exercise those options before.
They just went straight to the
driver. Just like the history in
the 80s comes from the old law,
the king and your three. And the
federal government has what
the king and your three. And the federal government has what's
called sovereign immunity,
meaning they cannot be sued.
That has been in the States and
it can only go against employees
when they have taken an act and
this comes from a call to
action.
BUT
BUT THERE
BUT THERE IS A NEED FOR IT BUT I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY IN TODAY'S TIME AND AGE IT'S GONE TOO FAR
NOW WE'RE WATCHING THE FUTURE
QUALIFIED UNITS VERY CLOSELY
YOU'RE SAYING IT'S UNDER A
MICROSCOPE NOW WE'LL SEE WHAT
GOES FROM