OF THESE INVESTIGATIONS? WHY NOT PUBLICLY CONFIRM THAT
UKRAINE HAD BEEN ASKED BY THE
PRESIDENT TO PURSUE THEM?
WHY?
WHY? BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE EXPOSED
THE PRESIDENT’S CORRUPTION.
>>> WELCOME BACK TO "MORNING
JOE."
JOE." IT IS FRIDAY, JANUARY 24th.
LET’S BRING IN SENATE MINORITY
LEADER, DEMOCRAT CHUCK SCHUMER
OF NEW YORK.
SENATOR SCHUMER, IT IS GREAT TO
HAVE YOU ON THE SHOW THIS
MORNING.
MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING TO YOU ALL.
>> SENATOR, SO THE DEMOCRATS
HAVE FINISHED THEIR OPENING
COMMENTS.
COMMENTS. THEY’VE MADE THEIR CASE TO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
AMERICAN PEOPLE. DO YOU THINK IT WILL PERSUADE
ONE REPUBLICAN?
ONE REPUBLICAN? >> I AM HOPEFUL THAT IT WILL.
CERTAINLY ON THE ISSUE OF
WITNESSES AND DOCUMENTS.
WE HAVE 10, 12 REPUBLICANS WHO
HAVE NEVER SAID ANYTHING
NEGATIVE ABOUT WITNESSES AND
DOCUMENTS, AND THAT’S BECAUSE
IT’S SO OBVIOUS.
IF YOU’RE SEEKING THE TRUTH, THE
VERY TRUTH THAT COLONEL VINDMAN
IN THAT VERY MOVING PART OF THE
TESTIMONY LAST NIGHT TOLD HIS
FATHER, DON’T WORRY, DAD.
THIS IS AMERICA.
WE BELIEVE IN THE TRUTH.
THAT WAS SO MOVING, AND I SAW
THE REPUBLICANS JUST, I WATCHED
THEM.
THEM. EVERY EYE WAS RIVETED.
YOU KNOW?
YOU KNOW? WHEN THEY’RE HEARING THINGS THEY
DON’T WANT TO HEAR HALF THE TIME
THEY’RE LOOKING DOWN, THEY’RE
TALKING TO SOMEONE NEARBY, BUT
IN THE TWO SUMMATIONS OF ADAM
SMITH AND AT CERTAIN OTHER
MINUTES WERE RIVETED.
AND WHAT WAS SAID TO HIS DAD WAS
MOVING.
MOVING. WE WANT THE TRUTH.
WE WANT WITNESSES AND DOCUMENTS
AND A POWERFUL CASE HAS BEEN
MADE FOR THOSE.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EVERY DAY
MORE AND MORE AMERICANS AS THEY
WATCH THIS SAY, WHY NOT
WITNESSES AND DOCUMENTS?
SO I AM, AM I CERTAIN WE’RE
GOING TO GET TO THEM?
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
ABSOLUTELY NOT. BUT DO WE HAVE A CHANCE?
A REASONABLE CHANCE?
PARTICULARLY IF WE KEEP FIGHTING
THE CASE AND THEY DON’T HAVE ANY
GOOD ARGUMENT AGAINST IT, WHICH
THEY DON’T, YES, I’M HOPEFUL WE
CAN.
CAN. ONCE YOU GET WITNESSES AMENDND
DOCUMENTS.
DOCUMENTS. ONCE THESE WITNESS WEREN’T --
ANOTHER TELLING MOMENT, EXCUSE
ME A MINUTE.
THE GRAPHIC AND GRANULAR DISCUSS
ON THE 10th.
THE CHIEF COOK AND BOTTLE WASHER
WHO KNEW EVERYTHING WAS THE
CHIEF OF STAFF, MICK MULVANEY.
IT JUST CRIED OUT.
WHY AREN’T WE LIVESTENING TO HIM
HEARING WHAT HE HAS TO SAY?
THERE WERE SOME POWERFUL MOMENTS
THAT -- WHEN OUR REPUBLICAN
FRIENDS GO TO SLEEP AND THINK OF
THE WEIGHT OF THE CONSTITUTION
ON THEIR SHOULDERS AND THINK
HISTORY WILL RECORD THEM, YEAH.
I THINK WE’VE GOT A SHOT.
I DO.
I DO. >> WELL, TODAY, OF COURSE, YOU
ALL FINISH UP TALKING ABOUT
OBSTRUCTION OF CONGRESS.
WERE YOU NOT GIVEN ACTUALLY
EXHIBIT NUMBER ONE IN THE
PRESIDENT’S OWN STATEMENT
EARLIER IN THE WEEK WHEN HE SAID
DEMOCRATS DON’T HAVE ALL THE
EVIDENCE.
EVIDENCE. WE ARE HOLDING ALL THE EVIDENCE.
>> YES.
>> YES. OF COURSE.
OF COURSE. THE ARGUMENT IS SO APPARENT AND
AS ADAM SCHIFF MADE SO CLEAR
BRILLIANTLY LAST NIGHT, PART OF
THE AMERICAN GRAIN THAT WE ARE A
COUNTRY ESTABLISHED ON TRUTH,
ESTABLISHED ON FACT, THAT THE
CASE KEEPS GETTING STRONGER AND
STRONGER,S FROM WHAT THE
REPUBLICANS DON’T SAY.
YOU KNOW, THEY DON’T -- WE
HAVEN’T HEARD A SINGLE ANSWER
YET WHY THERE SHOULDN’T BE
WITNESSES AND DOCUMENTS.
WE HEAR A LOT OF FINGER POINTING
AND SHINY OBJECTS.
OH, THEY’RE TAKEN TOO LONG, OR,
OH, NANCY HANDED OUT PENS, OR,
OH, JERRY NADLER SAID THESE
WORDS, BUT THEY CANNOT ANSWER
THE ARGUMENT AND THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE TO EACH OF THEIR
SENATORS, DEMOCRAT AND
REPUBLICAN, IS ASKING NOW AND
WILL ASK ON INTO THE FUTURE, WHY
WERE YOU SO AFRAID OF WITNESSES
AND DOCUMENTS?
AND DOCUMENTS? WHAT’S WRONG WITH GETTING THE
TRUTH ON SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT
AS THIS?
AS THIS? >> WELL, ESPECIALLY WHEN SEVEN
OUT OF TEN AMERICANS WANT TO SEE
WITNESSES.
WITNESSES. >> YEAH, YEAH.
>> MORE WITNESSES.
LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE WITNESS
DEAL THAT SOME REPUBLICANS WERE
FLOATING THAT WAS TRADING BOLTON
FOR HUNTER BIDEN?
IS THAT -- IS THE IDEA OF THAT
DEAL DEAD?
DEAL DEAD? >> WELL, IT’S NEVER REALLY BEEN
SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED.
SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED. LET ME JUST SAY THIS --
THE WITNESSES THAT WE HAVE ASKED
FOR ARE EYEWITNESS, LIKE MICK
MULVANEY, TO EVERYTHING THAT
HAPPENED.
HAPPENED. AND THE FEW REPUBLICANS, THERE
ARE SOME, WHO ARE SAYING, WELL I
DON’T KNOW IF THIS IS ALL REALLY
TRUE.
TRUE. IT’S ALL SECONDHAND, WHICH IS
ISN’T, BUT STILL, EVERY ONE OF
THESE WITNESSES, THESE
DOCUMENTS, WILL ANSWER THIS
DIRECTLY.
DIRECTLY. HUNTER BIDEN HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH THIS.
WITH THIS. AND BY THE WAY, AND PEOPLE
FORGET THIS.
FORGET THIS. THE REPUBLICANS COULD CALL
HUNTER BIDEN ON THEIR OWN.
THEY HAVE 53 VOTES.
YOU KNOW WHY THEY DON’T?
BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WILL JUST
CONFIRM TO EVERY AMERICAN THAT
EVERYTHING THE PRESIDENT IS
DOING HAS DONE IN THIS WHOLE SAD
SAGA, EVERYTHING THE PRESIDENT’S
LAWYERS ARE DOING, EVERYTHING
THE REPUBLICAN SENATORS ARE
DOING IS JUST POLITICAL.
THEY CALL IN HUNTER BIDEN.
SOMEONE TOTALLY UNRELATED TO THE
CHARGES AGAINST THE PRESIDENT.
>> SO, SENATOR, YOU KNOW, YOU
WERE MAKING A REALLY IMPORTANT
POINT ABOUT REVELATIONS FROM THE
CHIEF OF STAFF MICK MULVANEY.
THERE ARE BOMBSHELLS RIGHT AND
LEFT IN THIS INFORMATION THAT
HAS COME OUT, AND THE THREAT TO
OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
WHAT I SEE AS A DILEMMA IS
PERHAPS THE CONSTANT DEVALUATION
OF THE TRUTH.
ON THE PART OF TRUMP AND TRUMP
REPUBLICANS.
REPUBLICANS. HOW DO YOU MAKE THE CASE AND
PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING?
BECAUSE IT IS HAPPENING AS WE
SPEAK.
SPEAK. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF AMERICANS
WHO THINK, WHAT’S HAPPENING IN
WASHINGTON DOESN’T MATTER.
IT’S ALL A BUNCH OF WHATEVER.
AND THEY’RE GETTING THAT FROM
THE REPUBLICANS AND FROM
PRESIDENT TRUMP HIMSELF.
>> AND FROM CERTAIN NEWS
ORGANIZATIONS.
ORGANIZATIONS. NOT YOURS.
NOT YOURS. LET’S NOT FORGET THAT.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> AND, BY THE WAY, THIS IS THE
FIRST TIME PROBABLY A MAJORITY
OF REPUBLICANS HAVE HEARD THE
WHOLE CASE START TO FINISH.
THEY’VE HEARD BITS AND PIECES.
MANY OF THEM HEAR IT ON FOX NEWS
AND WE KNOW WHAT FOX NEWS DOES.
THEY LEAVE OUT THE MOST DAMNING
PARTS AGAINST THE PRESIDENT, AND
THEY EVEN DISTORT SOME OF THEM.
SO -- SO IT’S TRUE.
BUT HERE’S WHAT’S AMAZED US.
I STARTED FOUR WEEKS AGO ON THIS
CAMPAIGN FOR WITNESSES AND
DOCUMENTS, WHEN I SENT A LETTER
TO McCONNELL.
TO McCONNELL. I CALLED NANCY THAT NIGHT AND
SAID I’M GOING TO DO IT.
SHE SAID, GREAT.
SHE AGREES, AND I’VE BEEN
PLEASANTLY AND STRONGLY
SURPRISED HOW MUCH SUPPORT THIS
IS GETTING.
IS GETTING. IN OTHER WORDS, AS JOE
MENTIONED, OVER 70%.
OVER 60% OF REPUBLICANS AND THE
REPUBLICANS ALMOST ALWAYS, THE
REPUBLICAN RANK AND FILE THIS IS
AND ALL THIS POLYDATA, THEY
MARCH WITH TRUMP LOCK, STOCK AND
BARREL, AND SO TRUTH MATTERS TO
AMERICANS.
AMERICANS. AND GETTING ALL OF THE FACTS
MATTERS TO AMERICANS.
IT’S DEEP IN OUR BONES.
IT WAS DEEP IN GEORGE WASHINGTON
AND JAMES MADISON’S BONES, THE
PATRIOTS WHO RISKED THEIR LIVES
FOR THIS COUNTRY AND DEEP INTO
THOSE WHO COME TO THIS IT
COUNTRY LIKE CORNER VINDMAN IN
THAT MOVING, MOVING TESTIMONY
YESTERDAY.
YESTERDAY. AND SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW IT
IS TRUE.
IS TRUE. THERE’S A LOT OF MISTRUTH AND
TRUMP LABELS ANYTHING HE DOESN’T
LIKE AS FAKE NEWS, BUT IF YOU
BELIEVE IN AMERICA, IF YOU
BELIEVE IN THE DEPTH AND
STRENGTH IN AMERICA, AND IF YOU
KEEP FIGHTING, YOU CAN’T JUST
ROLL OVER AND SAY, FORGET ABOUT
IT, YOU CAN WIN THESE FIGHTS,
AND THAT’S WHY I’M FIGHTING AS
HARD AS I AM.
>> SENATOR --
>> SENATE MINORITY --
>> ONE FINAL QUICK QUESTION.
WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION YESTERDAY
WHEN ONE ARE YOUR COLLEAGUES
QUESTIONED THE PATRIOTISM OF
PURPLE HEART RECIPIENT VINDMAN?
>> AH.
>> AH. IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
IT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
NOT TO THE SAME EXTENT, BUT TO