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>>> WELCOME BACK TO NEW DAY KNOT WEST.
KNOT WEST. AN ISSUE THAT IS IN OUR COUNTRY
RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW. THE IMPACT OF RACISM ON
PEOPLE'S DAILY LIVES CAN BE
HARD TO GRASP IF YOU HAVEN'T
LIVED IT.
LIVED IT.
LIVED IT. ERIKA PABLO TALKED TO US
RECENTLY TO GET A BETTER GRASP
ON THE LAYERS OF STRUCTURAL
RACISM.
RACISM.
RACISM. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY IT'S
IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT RACISM
WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING THE CITY
OF SEATTLE EXISTS ON STONE
LAND.
LAND.
LAND. THAT WAS ORIGINALLY OCCUPIED BY
THE AMISH.
THE AMISH. IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT
THAT HISTORY WHEN WE GO INTO
RACISM.
RACISM.
RACISM. SO I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
THAT.
THAT.
THAT. BUT
THAT. BUT OFTENTIMES WE ARE TAUGHT
THAT RACISM IS ON AN INDIVIDUAL
LEVEL.
LEVEL.
LEVEL. THE IDEA HE -- BUT RACISM IS
WAY MORE COMPLEX THAN THAT.
RACISM DIDN'T EXIST EVERY --
ACCESS TO HOUSING.
FREEDOM FROM POLICING.
AND THEN ANOTHER TERM FOR THIS
IS CALLED STRUCTURAL RACISM.
OR THE HISTORICAL EXISTING
POLICIES AND PRACTICES THAT
BENEFIT WHITE PEOPLE OVER
PEOPLE OF COLOR.
>> THIS IS HARD, I THINK, FOR
SOME PEOPLE TO GRASP THAT THE
SYSTEM HAS BEEN BUILT ON A
SERIES OF ASSUMPTIONS AND
DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE.
SOME OF WHICH MAY SEEM ABSTRACT
TO US IN CURRENT TIMES.
BUT REALLY DATE BACK FOR
CENTURIES.
CENTURIES. AND I THINK MAKING THAT REAL
INVOLVES KIND OF TALKING ABOUT
HOW PEOPLE ARE LEGITIMATELY
EFFECTED BY IT WHEN THEY GO OUT
IN THE WORLD FOR HOUSING.
FOR A JOB.
FOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
CAN YOU BREAK IT DOWN IN THAT
WAY?
WAY?
WAY? >>
WAY? >> YEAH, I CAN GET THAT EXAMPLE
AROUND WEALTH GAP.
AND HOUSING.
AND HOUSING. SO THIS SYSTEM OF BUILDING IS
VERY MUCH CORRELATED.
AND JUST, FOR EXAMPLE, WHITE
HOUSEHOLDS HAVE TEN TIMES MORE
WEALTH THAN BLACK HOUSEHOLDS.
AND THIS STATISTIC HAS BEEN THE
SAME SINCE THE EARLY 1960s.
BUT ACCESS TO HOMEOWNERSHIP
HASN'T BEEN THE SAME.
AND IT HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY
RACIALIZED.
RACIALIZED. EVEN HERE IN SEATTLE
NEIGHBORHOODS THERE WAS
POLICIES THAT RESTRICTED THE
SALE OF HOMES IN CERTAIN
NEIGHBORHOODS.
NEIGHBORHOODS. FOR BLACKS, JEWS, AND PEOPLE OF
ANY COLOR.
ANY COLOR. >> WE ARE IN THIS FAST MOVING
TIME WHERE PEOPLE OF MY AGE,
THINGS FEEL DIFFERENT THAN THEY
HAVE BEFORE.
HAVE BEFORE. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO
YOU SO I WILL ASK.
BUT WHERE ARE WE?
WHERE DO YOU THINK WE ARE
GOING?
GOING?
GOING? >>
GOING? >> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. I GUESS THE ISSUE AROUND WEALTH
AND HOUSING IS NOT SEPARATE
FROM THE CURRENT PROTEST
AGAINST POLICE BRUTALITY.
I THINK MANY BLACK AND BROWN
FOLKS HAVE EXPERIENCED OVER
POLICING IN THEIR COMMUNITIES
FOR DECADES.
FOR DECADES. AND IT HAS TO DEAL WITH WHERE
THEY LIVE.
THEY LIVE. TO BRING IT MORE CURRENT WHERE
WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
ESPECIALLY IN SEATTLE.
SEATTLE HAS THE MOST
ACCOUNTABILITY LAWS.
ACCOUNTABILITY LAWS. BUT JUST SORE THE PAST TWO
WEEKS.
WEEKS.
WEEKS. IT
WEEKS. IT HAS SHOWN US IT'S NOT
ENOUGH.
ENOUGH.
ENOUGH. MANY BLACK LEADER ARE ASKING
FOR REINVESTMENT IN THEIR
COMMUNITIES.
COMMUNITIES. AND WITH THIS ECONOMY, TO BE
ABLE TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES IN
WAYS THAT MAKE THEM FEEL SAFE.
>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE
PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECT OF GROWING
UP, FOR EXAMPLE, IN AN OVER
POLICED COMMUNITY?
POLICED COMMUNITY? >> YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT
IMPACTS -- THERE IS STATISTICS
THAT WE ARE SEEING WITH COVID.
THERE HAS BEEN OVER 100,000
BLACK FOLKS THAT HAVE PASSED
AWAY FROM COVID.
BUT I THINK OVER TIME IT
DETERIORATES YOUR MENTAL HEALTH
AND PHYSICAL HEALTH.
JUST BEING EVEN AWARE OF THAT
TRAUMA OR THAT FEAR THAT
HAPPENS.
HAPPENS.
HAPPENS. AND I THINK THE POLICE FORCE
ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY
HERE IN SEATTLE, THEY ARE KIND
OF NOT EQUIPPED TO HELP FOLKS
WITH MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS OR
FOLKS EXPERIENCING HEALTH
CRISIS.
CRISIS.
CRISIS. A
CRISIS. A FAMILY MEMBER WAS
EXPERIENCING A MENTAL HEALTH
CRISIS, YOU CAN CALL UP
SOMEONE, THEY WILL COME TO YOUR
DOOR AND SUPPORT YOU DURING
THAT CRISIS.
THAT CRISIS. OR SOMEONE EXPERIENCING
HOUSELESSNESS.
HOUSELESSNESS. YOU CAN CALL UP THE CITY
GOVERNMENT, THEY WOULD HAVE A
SAFE PLACE TO SLEEP AND FOOD TO
EAT.
EAT.
EAT. WHAT
EAT. WHAT WAS THAT LOOK LIKE.
WHAT IF WE INVESTED IN
SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE
ENVISIONING.
ENVISIONING. >>> SO WHAT DO YOU THINK FUTURE
LOOK LAKE.
LOOK LAKE. >> IT'S EXCITING TIME.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO PUSH
THROUGH THIS FOR AWHILE NOW.
I'M A LITTLE EXCITED IT'S PART
OF THE NORMAL CONVERSATION FOR
FOLKS.
FOLKS.
FOLKS. >>
FOLKS. >> SO DO YOU HAVE THAT FEELING
TOO THAT THERE IS SOMETHING
HAPPENING?
HAPPENING? >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. FOR ME AS A BLACK WOMAN IT'S
BEEN VERY HEAVY.
BUT THERE IS THIS LIGHT SENSE
ALONG WITH THAT.
THERE IS THAT HOPE FOR FUTURE.
AND I THINK IT'S REALLY
IMPORTANT FOR WHITE FOLKS AND
NONBLACK PEOPLE OF COLOR TO
REALLY NOT ALWAYS NECESSARILY
LEAN ON THEIR BLACK FRIENDS OR
FAMILY MEMBERS TO EDUCATE THEM.
BUT THERE IS SO MANY RESOURCES
OUT THERE.
OUT THERE. THERE ARE SO MANY RESOURCES AND
BOOKS.
BOOKS.
BOOKS. EVEN ART.
EVEN ART.
EVEN ART. EVEN ART DEPARTMENT.
SO AGAIN THE SEATTLE SOCIAL
CITIZEN INITIATIVE WE HAVE A
WEBSITE.
WEBSITE.
WEBSITE. WE HAVE RESOURCES.
AND THERE IS UNIVERSITY OF
WASHINGTON THEY HAVE A HISTORY
PROJECT ON SEGREGATION OF
SEATTLE.
SEATTLE.
SEATTLE. >> THANKS.
>> THANKS. >> FOLKS CAN TRY TO EDUCATE
THEMSELVES AND LEARN ABOUT WHAT
IS NOT TO TO DO TO.
>> PEN PIECING THAT TOGETHER.
>> YEAH, DEFINITELY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH OPINION
WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> COMING UP, WHETHER YOU HAVE
DEBT RIGHT NOW OR NOT, IT'S A
TOUGH TIME FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE
AND A GOOD TIME TO LOOK AT YOUR
BUDGETING.
BUDGETING.