>>> TONIGHT WE ARE ON THE EVE OF
HOUSE REPUBLICANS HOLDING A VOTE
TO PURGE LIZ CHENEY FROM
LEADERSHIP AFTER SHE BEAT BACK A
PREVIOUS EFFORT.
I’M JOINED BY THE CHAIRMAN OF
THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION.
THANKS FOR COMING BACK.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON, ARI.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THIS IS A BIG STORY.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOUSE
REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP POSTS, DO
YOU GENERALLY THINK THEY SHOULD
BE HELD BY PEOPLE WITH HIGHER
CONSERVATIVE RATINGS FROM YOUR
GROUP OR LOWER RATINGS?
>> WE LIKE CONSERVATIVES TO BE
IN LEADERSHIP, ARI.
>> AND WHO ARE YOU SUPPORTING?
>> WE HAVEN’T MADE AN
ENDORSEMENT IN THIS RACE.
>> BUT?
>> BUT WHAT?
>> BUT DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE?
>> ME?
IF I WAS VOTING IN THE HOUSE
CONFERENCE, I’M A LITTLE BIT
TORN BECAUSE BOTH OF THESE WOMEN
ARE LONG-TIME FRIENDS.
I SERVED IN THE BUSH
ADMINISTRATION WITH THEM.
BUT IN ALL CANDOR, I THINK WHEN
I TALK TO MEMBERS AND I TWEETED
THIS OUT TODAY, WHEN I TALK TO
MEMBERS IN THE REPUBLICAN
CONFERENCE, I THINK THAT THE
CRITICISM OF LIZ CHENEY IS THAT
AS CONFERENCE CHAIR, HER JOB IS
TO COORDINATE THE MESSAGE.
THEY WANT THE MESSAGE TO BE
FIGHTING JOE BIDEN’S RADICAL
SOCIALIST AGENDA.
THINK THEY THAT THEY’RE ON THE
CUSP OF TAKING THESE MAJORITIES
BACK.
I THINK THE HOUSE IS IN VERY
GOOD SHAPE FOR THE REPUBLICANS
TO TAKE BACK.
THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
THEY DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT
ANIMOSITY WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP.
>> RIGHT.
SO YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE IDEA
THAT, WHILE SHE HAS NOT CHANGED
HER POSITIONS, SHE BEAT BACK THE
LAST EFFORT.
>> EXACTLY, YEAH.
>> THERE IS A LOT OF SUGGESTION
THAT SHE COULD BE PURGED
TOMORROW FOR THAT.
BUT SHE HASN’T SAID ANYTHING
ABOUT DONALD TRUMP CHANGING THE
ELECTION TOMORROW IF IT’S FALSE.
>> I DON’T KNOW EVERYTHING SHE
SAID.
I WOULD SIMPLY SAY MOST
REPUBLICANS WANT TO STAY
FOCUSSED ON THE REASONS WHY THE
MAJORITY SHOULD BE GIVEN BACK TO
THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES --
TO THE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE
OF REPRESENTATIVES, BECAUSE THEY
WANT TO HAVE ENERGY AND
INDEPENDENT.
THEY WANT TO KEEP TAX RATES
SLOW.
THEY WANT TO OPEN UP CHURCHES
AND SCHOOLS.
THEY WANT TO GET THIS ECONOMY
HUMMING GEN INGMING AGAIN STRONG
OVERSEAS.
MUCH OF THAT LIZ CHENEY AGREES
WITH.
SHE HAS A RATING IN THE HIGH
70s.
IT’S NOT PERFECT BUT IT’S VERY
STRONG.
IT’S HIGHER THAN ELISE STEFANIK.
SHE STARTED OUT WITH 30%. SHE’S GETTING CLOSE TO 60%.
SHE’S GETTING CLOSE TO 60%.
WE SEEM TO BE MOSTLY IE LINE LYL
>> I APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE.
WHAT’S INTERESTING HERE IS
YOU’RE GETTING EXACTLY WHY WE
WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.
WA WE HAVE HERE WILL PUT THEM UP
SO VIEWERS NOW WHAT YOU’RE
REFERRING TO IS A PRETTY BIG GAP
IN THEIR CON SEFBSERVEATISMCONSE
IS THIS A GOOD TRADE BECAUSE
IT’S PRETTY EXTRAORDINARY TO SEE THE POTENTIAL DEMOTION OF
THE POTENTIAL DEMOTION OF
SOMEONE WHO IS CONSIDERED NOT
ONLY CONSERVATIVE TO SWAP HER
OUT WITH SOMEONE WHO DIDN’T VOTE
WITH TRUMP.
>> TWO REASONS I DON’T THINK
TRUMP IS LYING.
TWO REASONS I THINK LIZ CHENEY’S RATING IS BETTER.
RATING IS BETTER.
WE DON’T CONSIDER IT STELLAR.
I THINK WHAT I SEE IS THE RIGHT KIND OF TREND WITH HER.
KIND OF TREND WITH HER.
I DON’T GET A GET IN THIS.
WHAT I HEAR IS NOT SO MUCH THEY
PLOOEF WANT HER TO STAY FOCUSED
ON THEIR AGENDA.
THAT’S WHY I THINK WE’LL SEE THE
A SHIFT IN THE LEADERSHIP.
>> FOR CLARITY, YOU’RE REFERRING
TO THE FACT YOU VERY PLUGGED IN.
>> COULDN’T BE.
>> EXACTLY.
YOU’RE VERY PLUGGED INTO THE
FOLKS.
YOU’RE SAYING YOU THINK CHENEY
WILL LOSE TOMORROW.
YOU’RE RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF ALL THIS.
ALL THIS.
YOU HAVE INSIGHTS.
ALL THAT’S HAPPENED IS McCARTHY
AND OTHERS SEEM TO BE WALKING
AWAY FROM WHAT WENT DOWN JANUARY
6th.
McCARTHY SEEMED TO TRY TO DO
THAT ALONG WITH CHENEY.
HE’S CHANGED.
SHE HASN’T.
>> SOMEBODY WHO PROVOKED AN
ATTACK ON THE UNITED STATES
CAPITOL TO PREVENT THE COUNTING
ELECTORAL VOTES WHO REFUSED TO
STAND UP.
>> THE PRESIDENT BEARS
RESPONSIBILITY FOR WEDNESDAY’S
ATTACK.
HE SHOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY DENOUNCED MOB WHEN HE SAW WHAT
DENOUNCED MOB WHEN HE SAW WHAT
WAS UNFOLDING.
>> THIS IS THE MODE YAEDIA FOCUS
THE RACE.
I DO KNOW A LOT OF THESE MEMBERS
OF CONGRESS.
I THINK THEY WERE OKAY WITH THE
DIVERSITY OF OPINIONS ON JANUARY
6th THAT LIZ CHENEY HAD AN
OPINION THAT WAS MUCH TOUGHER ON
PRESIDENT TRUMP THAN OTHER
PEOPLE IN THE CONFERENCE WANTED.
THEY WERE OKAY WITH THAT.
SHE SURVIVED HER FIRST TEST.
SINCE THEN THEY FEEL LIKE SHE’S
FOCUSED TOO MUCH ON THOSE
QUESTIONS AND SHE’S NOT BREAKING
THROUGH AND HELPING THEM
BREAKTHROUGH ON THE POLICY
DIFFERENCES WE HAVE WITH JOE
BIDEN AND NANCY PEPELOSI.
WE’RE ON THE CUSP OF A HUGE
REPUBLICAN BOOM AND TAKE OVER OF
THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
WE COULD SCREW IT UP AS WE HAVE
BEFORE BY FOCUSING ON THINGS
THAT WILL NOT HELP US PICK UP
SEATS.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A
DIVERSITY OF OPINION, INCLUDING
THEIR OPINIONS ON DONALD TRUMP.
A LOT OF THEM SHARE THEM WITH
ME.
WE WILL TAKE BACK THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES IF WE STAY
FOCUSED ON WHAT THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE WANT TO SEE DONE DPR A
POLICY STANDPOINT.
THEY MISS THESE TRUMP POLICIES.
THEY MISS THEM TERRIBLY.
>> I’M ARE YOU POSITIVING UP
AGAINST THE BREAK.