i'm joined by sean mcrainey he's the former latter-day saint of forty years
he's now a non-denominational christian pastor
he's also host apart of the matter you can find out more at eights over tea and
tv
soc on i've got a whole bunch of questions for you that were sent in by
our audience but before we get to those look just kind of set the scene here
former mormon explain how that happened what that means give us the background
i was originally a stationary maryland ah... los angeles temple
active
i was going president high priest three children
burying gays in the church
and but
i did not no uh... my relationship to god i didn't understand it
you know anymore and doctors really well
long story short ninety
ninety seven and a roadside experience it
alter my uh...
mccarthyism organism accused of plotting to provide a
and ultimately left mormon is on the uh... and uh... went to the ology school
and uh... became a pastor vis wrote the book
and it turn into a television show in salt lake moved to southern california
indian hosted
so it's interesting because it
after leaving the mormon church you moved to salt lake city which is kind of
a lot of people might think that that counter-intuitive don't you think
except as a result of a very large l guess population most of the western
united states has a lot of all the us though
and lots of better to have a baby in a in the eastern on the west
okay so then let's talk of the more specifically
uh... how did your relationship to a lot of the people that were part of your
life when you were in the l d s uh...
pat did that change in other words were you seen differently and what was the
reaction from within the mormon church when you chose to leave
yeah i did not morrison uses total is policies
into how they teach their people
yell yes churches the only true church on the face of the earth
uh... they are the only one foot
preset authority from don and sandra stuff and when you leave you either
conform or your cast out
and so when i left i literally was i lost a size
avaya families friends
basically they don't come out against you are a couple people have they
essentially act like your debt
so there's people in your own family you're saying better no longer in touch
with you because of your choice to leave
absolutely
okay so
when you see what's going on now with mitt romney and this presidential
election
do you have any insights do you have any thoughts about
what mitt romney's religion means
for his potential presidency
that the average person who's not as familiar with the mormon church does
would now
absolutely did not
and any it's all of them may seem to me
especially how the evangelical so-called evangelical church
and certainly held him up as a hero uh... you know it turned a blind eye to
what they once really understood and that is
they used to compare a or bring running for president to a catholic led by john
f_ kennedy
well you know it's the same thing is not the same thing
new mit romney
first and foremost enter into an l_b_o_ sample
he raised his arm to the square which they had means before god angels and
everybody who saw him andy swore allegiance to the l_d_d_s_ church and
building a
first and foremost of everything he does in his life or will be invisible black
it literally says what you have done
or what you will to will go to war building op research in jesus christ
latter-day saints uh...
uh... the the current religion beeping began
with the accredited uh... ideas joseph smith the founder ran for president i
say spring uncontrollably taught territory enough democratic sense
they happened long sought
repeated cracking all and it will get is that the romney's allegiance will be
some profitability esearch and his fate
far before it will be
to presidency
unless you're a lawyer
and then he's lying to you got a sales and witnesses and he's given it because
the lease to the country
is one way or another them and will be proven deceptive so let's think men
about specifically
what would that mean in terms of for the average person who's maybe not that
familiar and unfamiliar with mormon doctrine
how will this allegiance this primary allegiance to the mormon church
me represented day today in terms of either policy year how will the average
person seen this if mit romney is the president
urges smart i don't think they will see it uh... bucky law l happen suddenly
first of all wore his own won't gain uh...
uh... in rows and roots
internationally
it will proliferate international aid where predict the accessible paper not
as long as they're in the united states
and i will give them more power today to bring in this is a
uh... known by most people the mormon church brings that about sixty million
dollars a day in income
they are probably the most catherine's church on the base of this error now to
some of your lesson will they know how to notify payments putting them in
office but they don't realize the fallout that mormonism and mormon
industry mormon let people will begin to get contracts
might be done in utah for years
there's a buddy system
that isn't seen in eastern europe research and you know how to back in the
long term not a non-christian people
they probably don't care
but from my perspective it's a mess
but thought about a couple of other things that have kind of come up with
controversies that that a lot of people want i want to know about
uh... one question that i got from dow was have you ever been involved in
personally seeing this
retroactive repost to mister baptism into the mormon church which has been so
controversial
allegedly involved also to the president obama's mother who passed away what do
you know about that
uh... it's it's a candidates more medicine they believe sitting there
doing it
by i'm going to do and jenny ology
appetizing people who passed on vicariously through somebody who stands
in their plates
they uh... it is part of their total control and so they got if they had no
care for who they
posthumously baptize our dental ppo rights for they do it but for everybody
because they honestly believe that they will
uh... they have
the thing that needs to convert the entire world
additionally david
uh... romney's base here it is being much
being a role in closer was more reasonable for one of our prophecy
and his blood existed
koppel white embers proper prophecy
destitution states walking by a thread and of mormon elders will come in and
save it
interviewing romeo
tambien and taking office as fulfillment about long
uh... discussed prophecy
okay and laughing there's a couple of these mormons world bomb a group served
at morning democrat groups that are
getting a little bit of news is him on face book it's even here in there
on the whole is they're going to be any significant mormon population that is
not going to lean on me
just now did mostly bargaining operon
now unni does there is a visit this group
i mean i think religious uh... institution to little bit different
segments insects within morrison there's an intellectual groups or some
uh... reeves cerebral to what process running bmp dispatchers some of those
who is my at both for a while but they might represent one-half of one percent
of the all the s
uh... population active population
we've been speaking with john mclean
former
uh... latter-day saints forty years and now a non-denominational christian
pastor you can check out his television show heart of the matter at age boat
t_m_
dot tv
john really a pleasure to speak with you much appreciate you taking the time and
will absolutely be tuning in to show up
thanks david ellis take care
okay i think it will take a break we'll be back with play more after this