[Music] Shalom everyone and welcome to another episode of pod for Israel and I have with me
today here Dr Golan Broshi hello Golan how are you praise the Lord good so we're we're
getting a lot of questions you know about where are we with this war with Hamas regarding end
time eschatology God's plan for the Nations and so there's a lot going on internationally I mean we
are seeing world leader after world leader coming to Israel to talk with our prime minister with our
leading cabinet you know uh and and and so and then we see the United States sending warships
over and and the UK I mean England and then now we hear that China is in the Mediterranean as
well to help keep the peace and everything and so it's it just seems unbelievable and to me it
reminds me of Zechariah 12 which it says says that Jerusalem will become a cup of trembling
to all the nations and anyone that tries to lift it is going to deeply hurt and or Squatch him and
and I think we're seeing that um going on in in Israel what what does it remind you of gulan yes
so the question the question is is it because we hear a lot of rumors is it the end of days is it
the final war and we we we want to we want to put some order in things and uh and tell and and and
and see what it really is yeah so there there's a lot of various views I think what we're hearing a
lot about is uh that is this going to lead to the war of Gog and meog Y and this refers to
Ezekiel right Ezekiel 38 yeah and I don't think we're there yet but as you said as as we talked
before this could lead the way to something to something that we read in the Bible but but I
don't think we're there just yet yeah yeah so so I mean I think it's interesting to think of the
context so we have and we talked a lot uh in the last few years about the current state of Israel
as as being described in Ezekiel 37 MH right so God is gathering us the dead bones are gathered
and there's flesh and but there's no spirit I mean that's the second stage and then comes Ezekiel 38
and then we see Nations that have a some sort of a coalition which which is is hard to believe so who
do we have in that Coalition do you remember yes but but by the way this is it seems like this is
the of the mod state of Israel because isn't that what happened at 48 with the Coalition of the Arab
Nations coming against Israel so in 48 it was a coalition of Arab Nations Arab Nations but who in
the Coalition in 38 nations from the north and we can only speculate what did Ezekiel mean but but
it looks like something is going on right it seems like it's going to be a coalition with Russia
Russia Iran Persia and then you know countries like turkey and countries in North Africa yeah and
I don't want to say even China but it's hard to it's hard to yeah it's hard to to pin specifically
but it's very easy now to see those Nations coming together whereas you know even 50 years ago it
would be like unimaginable so so in other words even though this war is not Gog and MOG it seems
like the players are moving to the right direction according to the Bible that's right that's right
I think the main as as I see what's going on on I think the main message is even though things may
seem like it's in complete chaos actually it's God is moving human Affairs exactly to the place
it's going to be uh as as it puts it out for us in biblical prophecy so he's he's Sovereign and he's
know exactly what's going God is not surprised no not only is he not surprised he's orchestrating it
to where he says in biblical prophecy things are going to happen yeah and that actually reminds me
of of of Psalm chapter 2 when you know the leaders of the world are planning you know against God and
His Messiah and God is in heaven laughing because they're as you said they're they're playing to his
to his rules they're or this is exactly what he said this is going to happen so we're not in the
final war but it seems like we're getting closer to it so so let me ask you this is is Armageddon
and the last war go gog and MOG is it the same the same War so actually a lot of people are
asking that and and as I understand the Bible and I think most Bible scholars would agree it's two
separate Wars so there are different views on When The War of Gog and MOG will happen some think it
will happen before the tribulation something it will think it will happen during the tribulation
but in any case it's different from what we read in Revelation about the war that is called the
Armageddon War so it's two separate events and yeah and there's a there's an interesting in point
about about the connection with we spoke about Russia and Iran which is not which is quite new we
didn't see it years and years before in the past it would have been very very very difficult to
to to imagine Russia and Iran um you know at the same place but now what we see to I have to say to
my surprise to some degree we see that Russia has taken a very very anti-israel and pro-iran stance
in this war with Hamas that was really surprising that Russia took that stand not supporting Israel
right but well at least we see Ezekiel 38 aligning and and and coming up now what do you think is are
we in a tribulation I'm I'm being asked that a lot are we already in the tribulation is this
part of the seven year of the tribulation yes well I don't think we're there yet but but again how do
you know when the tribulation begins cuz there's there's signs there's clear signs of of of the
starting point some would think the the Antichrist has to rule from Jerusalem has to rule from has to
start ruling from the temple so so the absolute condition for the beginning of the tribulation
is that the state of Israel or the Jewish people make a covenant some sort of an agreement with the
Antichrist that has not happened yet and that didn't happen yet now again we could say that
things the geopolitical situation is is coming there but it didn't happen yet so we know again
that the the destiny of Israel you can say it's all big tribulation but but we're not in the in
in the yeah in the tribulation in the when we sayov the Jacob's trouble so we're not there
yet but it seems like everything is playing to that place and of course nobody knows the time
or the hour right so still on Ezekiel 38 and 39 besides the Coalition that is described there
that we see that is starting to even Russia and IR fixed on the on on the board so to speak there's
also another very interesting fact that we we mentioned uh previously can you tell us about what
it is yeah because in Ezekiel 3811 it says that cities of Israel would be without not surrounding
by a wall you know like ancient Jericho cities would be and only after 48 only after the the
mod state of Israel was established only after 48 we have cities like Ashkelon like zot that are not
surrounded by walls actually no City in Israel is surrounded by walls ex even even Jerusalem
there's of course the ancient wall but most of Jerusalem now is much bigger and doesn't have a
wall so Ezekiel 38 can only come to pass after the mod state of Israel was established in other words
Ezekiel is not talking about a time before 48 he's talking about he can only talk about after 48 when
we don't have that we are living in exactly and that's Ezekiel 38 verse 11 but I want ask you
something something else and maybe that's the most important thing that we want to take from that
what about Israel and the and the church Israel and the body of Messiah and we we have a glimpse
of that in in in Matthew 25 in the Judgment of the of the Nations right right right so so I think I
think Matthew 25 is very much in line with many other key passages in the in the scripture of
course most notably um Genesis chapter 12 and something that God has said over there in verse
three that is absolutely unconditional God said those that bless you I will bless and those that
curse you I will curse and we see a facet of that in Jesus words in Matthew 25 where he says that he
will judge besides individual judgment it's going to be National judgment and the national judgment
is going to be in accordance to how the Nations treated the nation of Israel so um you know I
think particularly now as we see world leaders come and I think in the first few days after
October 7th we've seen a wall to- wall all over the world you know just empathy towards Israel
but oh how quick that have changed and now I think Israel is bashed in most International media so
just very very interesting yes and I think it's in Isaiah 5 where where the Prophet says that the
time would come when they will call good evil and evil good and this is the time for for our
brother and sisters all around the world are the the body of Messiah to decide if if if they want
to stand on the right side of history and call good good and evil evil and and and stand for
Israel as you just mentioned in Matthew 25 and all through the Bible so let me ask you this gulan and
I think it's a question for um everyone around the world to ask this them what's going to happen if
Israel at this time puts its weapons down puts its Army down what's going to happen I think
game's over for Israel so basically Israelis are going to be slaughtered so and that's that's the
second part of the question what's going to happen if Hamas and Arab countries around us will put
their weapons down what's going to happen peace there's going to be peace yep so that I think
that kind of goes to explain who's who's explain the situation and how complex it is that's why we
that's why we say I think it's a spiritual there's a spiritual war above above the physical war that
we see there's a spiritual war and Israel and is a smack in the middle between evil and and and good
and the question is what's the body of Messiah is going to is going to do about it so what about I
mean we we've talked earlier for for the church in Israel what's our message to our brothers
and sisters outside of Israel Believers in Jesus outside of Israel again because it's a spiritual
war the question is are they going to support the right side of History are they going to stand on
the right side of History will they support Israel even amidst these attacks and more so amidst those
attacks or will they they have to choose to be on the right side of History especially in these days
so we know according to Zechariah 14 and other passages that sadly all nations would come against
Israel so what can we do and what can the body of messiah in in general do so I think that fear and
confusion and anxiety are increasing all over the world there seems to be a lot of unstability and
people are fearful I mean the Middle East can flare up to a third world war and so on so on
but I actually think that for us as followers of Yeshua the calling is now not to run to the
shelter and cover our heads but rather to realize it should give us an urgency for the message of
hope that we have for these days for people you know Jewish people Arabic people people from old
the Nations to hear the good news and have an opportunity to follow the Messiah to believe on
him um that has given his life for us so for us at one for Israel definitely gives us not sense
of fear but a sense of urgency for the mission that we are called so this is an opportunity
absolutely absolutely an opportunity and you know with all the suffering around and we to try to do
our best to support those that are suffering the families of the kidnapped the family of
those who have been murdered the people that are suffering in the Gaza strips I mean when we can
we will help them as well but definitely on number one we want to make sure that we bring the gospel
to our people in a way they can relate in a way they can understand in terms they can just grasp
in a language uh it's it's ours so um again time of opportunity and thank you so much Golan will
continue to pray for our people and for all of our listeners or those that are watching us so yes
we are in the end times and we are getting to the end of the end times but it should cause us a joy
joy and understanding that this is an opportunity and not fear and not trembling amen so thank you
and we urge you all to continue and pray and give and become one for Israel together with us [Music]
amen