HOUR.
ALL PEOPLE, NOT A PRIVILEGE.
[CHEERS]
>> IT ALL SOUNDS GREAT, BUT
WHAT DEMOCRAT SOCIALIST SENATOR
BERNIE SANDERS DOESN'T TELL YOU
IS POLICIES COULD COST $20
TRILLION OR MORE.
ONE OF HIS OFFICIALS REVEALING
SANDERS IS CONSIDERING A 2020
RUN IF PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GOING
TO RUN AGAIN, WHICH LOOKS LIKE
THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
WATCH.
>> WILL VOTERS GET ANOTHER
CHANCE TO VOTE FOR BERNIE
SANDERS IN 2020?
>> VOTERS IN VERMONT WILL IN
NOVEMBER.
NATIONALLY, HE IS CONSIDERING
ANOTHER RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY.
LIZ: TAKE IT UP WITH KARL ROVE,
FORMER BUSH 43 DEPUTY CHIEF OF
STAFF.
GOOD TO SEE YOU, KARL.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON.
LIZ: SO THESE SEEM LIKE THE
SAME POLICIES THAT ARE RUINING
EUROPE.
WHAT CAN BERNIE SANDERS OFFER
VOTERS.
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS SAYING LET'S
TURN TO THE MARKETS, I'M GOING
REWORK OUR POLICIES TO HELP THE
MARKETS DELIVER TO YOU.
TAX CUTS, DODD-FRANK OVERHAUL.
WHAT'S BERNIE SANDERS GOT TO
OFFER?
>> FREE EVERYTHING.
FREE TUITION.
FREE HEALTH CARE.
FREE FAMILY LEAVE.
IT'S ALL FREE.
DOESN'T COST A DIME.
IT'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR
YOU AND FOR ME AND IT'S GOING
TO BE WONDERFUL THAT IT'S ALL
FREE.
HE'S ALREADY HAVING A BIG
EFFECT.
YOU TAKE A LOOK AT DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATES STEPPING UP FOR THE
HOUSE AND SENATE, AND VIRTUALLY
EVERY ONE OF THEM IS IN FAVOR
OF MEDICARE FOR ALL, WHICH IS
BASICALLY FREE HEALTH CARE, I
MEAN, REMEMBER, MEDICARE HAS
GONE BROKE.
AVERAGE WORKING COUPLE PUTS IN
$118,000 IN BENEFITS AND TAKES
OUT $320,000 -- PUT IN $118,000
IN TAXES OVER THE COURSE OF
THEIR CAREER, THEY TAKE OUT
$320,000 IN BENEFITS AND PASS A
$200,000 DIFFERENCE TO KIDS AND
GRANDKIDS AND HE WANTS TO TAKE
THAT SYSTEM WHICH TODAY IS
SUPPOSED TO HELP SENIORS AND
GOING BROKE AND EXTEND IT TO
EVERYBODY WHICH MEANS IT WILL
GO BROKE QUICKER.
AND HE'S GOING TO DO THAT ON
EVERYTHING ELSE.
HE IS A SOCIALIST.
LIZ: OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE
SIMILAR SYSTEMS THAT SANDERS IS
TALKING ABOUT AND THEY'RE
BROKE.
HE WANTS -- HE'S TALKED ABOUT
GUARANTEED JOBS, GUARANTEED
INCOME.
THE SAME IDEAS YOU SEE THAT IS
DRIVING EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO
THE BRINK OF COLLAPSE.
GO AHEAD.
IT'S NOT ONLY DRIVING EUROPEAN
COUNTRIES.
THEY'RE A BUNCH OF IDEAS
ADOPTED BY THE EUROPEANS THAT
WERE PART AND PARCEL OF THE
EXPERIMENT IN THE SOVIET UNION
AND PRE-MAO AND MAO CHINA.
LOOK, SOCIALISM FAILED EVERY
PLACE IT'S BEEN ATTEMPTED.
SANDERS BELIEVES IN SOME WAY,
SHAPE, OR FORM WE CAN HAVE
SOCIALISM IN AMERICA AND CAN
SUCCEED HERE, YOU FUNDAMENTALLY
CAN'T DO IT WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY
MARKETS AND RESPONSIBILITY, AND
EVERYTHING BECOMES FREE, THERE
IS NOTHING MORE EXPENSIVE IN
OUR SYSTEM THAN SOMETHING THAT
IS FREE BECAUSE THERE'S NO
CONSTRAINT ON THE COST AND
EVERYBODY GETS IT.
WHETHER THEY DESERVE IT OR NOT,
EVERYBODY GETS IT AND GET IT
FREE, AND THAT IS A RECIPE FOR
DISASTER.
HUMAN HISTORY HAS SHOWN IT TIME
AND TIME AGAIN.
ONLY PEOPLE WHO DON'T GET THAT
ARE THE PEOPLE WHO TAKE
HONEYMOON IN THE FORMER SOVIET
UNION AS BERNIE SANDERS DID.
HE IS IMPERVIOUS TO THE REALITY
OF THE FAILURE OF SOCIALIST.
LIZ: YOU REMEMBER HE SAID FOOD
LINES ARE A GOOD THING,
RATIONING, THEY'RE A GOOD
THING?
THAT'S HAPPENING IN SOCIALIST
VENEZUELA.
BERNIE SANDERS CHAMPIONED
CHAVEZ AND NICOLAS MADURO,
WE'RE WATCHING THIS BREAKING
STORY UNFOLD.
A NEW STORY COMING OUT OF
VENEZUELA.
TRUCK DRIVERS ARE ACCOSTED AND
ASSAULTED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
STARVING IN VENEZUELA,
ESPECIALLY THE DELIVERY TRUCKS
AND HAVE OVER 80 PROTESTS OVER
FOOD SHORTAGES TO DATE SO FAR
THIS YEAR.
WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO BERNIE
SANDERS NOT COMMENTING ON
VENEZUELA?
>> YEAH, LOOK, HE HASN'T
COMMENTED ON CHAVEZ AND CASTRO.
THIS IS A MAN WHO HAS BLINDERS
ON THIS.
IS THE SOCIALIST DILEMMA.
INFLATION THIS YEAR IN
VENEZUELA WILL HIT 13,000%.
A COUNTRY WHICH WAS THE
BREADBASKET FOR SOUTH AMERICA
DESPERATELY
DESPERATEL
DESPERATELY HUNGRY.
IT IS ROUTINE TO SEE ON THE
STREETS OF VENEZUELA PEOPLE
PROWLING THROUGH GARBAGE CANS
TO SEE IF THERE IS A SCRAP THEY
CAN EAT.
I READ A STORY ABOUT A HEART
RENDING REPORTER IN VENEZUELA
FOR FIVE YEARS BORN IN RUSSIA
AND SOLVE THE DECLINE OF THE
SOVIET UNION AND AFTERMATH AND
SAID IT IS WORSE TODAY IN
VENEZUELA THAN IT WAS IN SOVIET
RUSSIA.
AND TOLD THIS HEART RENDING
STORY OF SEEING A WORKING MAN
ON A BATTERED UP BICYCLE,
RIDING ALONG THE STREET, AND
SEEING A YOUNG TEENAGER IN A
GARBAGE CAN TRYING TO FIND
SOMETHING TO EAT AND THE WORKER
GAVE HIS PLASTIC CONTAINER OF
RICE AND A FEW PIECES OF BREAD
TO THE YOUNG MAN AND TOLD HIM
DON'T DO THAT AGAIN, AND
PROBABLY THE ONLY THING THE
WORK HER TO EAT ALL DAY.
THIS IS VENEZUELA, THE
SOCIALIST REIGN.
LIZ: THE MILITARY RUNS THE
ECONOMY IN SOCIAL VENEZUELA.
THAT IS THE STORY, TIME AND
AGAIN, SOCIALIST ECONOMIES, THE
MILITARY TAKES THINGS AND RUNS
THINGS, RIGHT, KARL?
FINAL WORD.
>> YEAH, AND A WAY THE REPORTS
WE'RE GETTING ARE THE RANK AND
FILE ARE THE MILITARY ARE LIKE
THE REST OF VENEZUELA, HUNGRY,
STARVING, BADLY FED, BADLY