The first signs that Tucker Carlson is considering a presidential run in 2024
are already out.
In fact he is scheduled to speak at the 2022 family leadership
summit in des Moines Iowa, that's taking place in July and
this is the event that a lot of presidential candidates have spoken at.
In fact he's going to be the keynote speaker.
So the leadership summit was addressed by potential 2024 presidential candidates
like vice president, Mike Pence, former secretary of state.
Mike Pompeo, who of course is considering a run himself and
the south Dakota governor, Kristi Noem who is also considering a run herself.
Now Robert Costa from CBS News tweeted about this saying Tucker Carlson
heading to Iowa home of the presidential caucuses this summer.
This particular groups gathering has long been an event attended by republicans
with presidential ambitions.
And there are others who agree with that statement, including Lincoln project co
founder and once GOP political operative Rick Wilson who says he's running.
He thinks that this is a surefire sign that someone is planning to run.
So Cenk what do you think?
Do you think that this is Tucker Carlson kind of flirting with the idea of
running or do you think it's this is definitely happening in 2024?
>> I don't know anyone who's been saying that Tucker Carlson is going to run longer
than I have and more than I have.
And we break down tape of Tucker Carlson on the show to show you why I
think he's gonna head towards politics and not just stay in TV.
And you could tell in the subtleties in the way he slightly dings Donald Trump
without angering his audience who still likes Donald Trump but
planting seeds of doubt about Donald Trump.
He viciously attacks other republicans because he saw that that worked for
Donald Trump.
And we've shown you dozens of examples and in fact I have a second theory about what
he's going to do that I'm gonna share with you in a second.
But the person who had the best tweet is Shane Goldmarker and
this is intensely true.
He wrote those saying that no one winds up in Iowa by accident.
Okay it's total in the case of politics it is totally true when you see politicians
going to Iowa in the middle of the year for no reason it ain't for no reason.
Literally everyone going to that event is considering at a minimum considering
running for president.
You don't just go golly gee look at me, I just wound up in Iowa at this event
with a whole bunch of other presidential potential candidates, right?
So Tucker Carlson is definitely considering running for president and
I've told you this before as well.
I think he's the only one who could beat Donald Trump and if you say but
how bout DeSantis?
>> Yeah, how about DeSantis?
>> No DeSantis cannot be Trump DeSantis is a Trump clone.
And all he did was copy Trump in a weak way and has backed down before?
He's never ding Trump, he's just sitting back, right?
But he's more of an establishment politician.
He will get scared.
Tucker is not scared and Tucker is way smarter than DeSantis or Trump.
>> For me what stands out about Tucker Carlson more than any other potential
2024 Republican candidate is how much he's leaned into the populist rhetoric.
Which we've dissected on this show so many times.
Clearly he doesn't give a damn about workers,
he doesn't give a damn about unions.
He's never offered any solutions to the unmitigated corporate power
in this country.
And most of his criticisms, if not all of his criticisms toward corporations really
hinges on this idea that they're just too woke.
That's the main problem there, too woke.
But nonetheless, the fact that he's constantly attacking corporations is
another sign to me, because it's something that resonates with the electorate,
including the right wing, right?
I think people feel the anger and the rage and how rigged our economic system is.
But again, obviously pay close attention to his rhetoric and
how he doesn't really have solutions for inequality.
He has no problem with inequality.
He just immediately goes toward the anti woke
rhetoric that you hear on the show day in day in, day out.
And I always wondered like why is Tucker Carlson doing that,
like what's the play here?
>> Yeah, so first of all, he studied Trump and
he's copying him, but without the madness, right?
Purposeful madness yes, hey vaccine skepticism
testicle tanning etc but he's doing that on purpose.
Why do the testicle tanning in that last documentary?
That's insane right?
Number one, he looked at it and
he couldn't believe it because he's actually heir to the Swanson fortune.
He went to swiss boarding schools.
He's never been populist, right?
All of a sudden he takes a massive populist turn and he realized one you
can't go dumb enough for right wingers, you just can't you do testicle tanning,
they'll go for it, they'll definitely go for it.
And but this is more important mainstream media and including us by the way guys
to be honest, all media cannot resist it because it's too funny, it's too absurd.
Everyone is going to be saying the words Tucker Carlson,
Tucker Carlson Tucker Carlson, okay and he's also doing visiting Iowa for
the same exact reason.
All of it is because he's running a playbook and
now the last part of the playbook, the theory that I promised you earlier.
Eventually he's gonna say something so
outrageous that Fox news is going to be forced to fire him.
It's going to be either we fire our top rated host or
we have a multi billion dollar lawsuit that we will definitely lose.
So they're gonna have to fire him and
when they do he's gonna say I'm the martyr, I'm the martyr.
I'm the only one who was telling you the truth and
even Fox News couldn't handle it.
So wait for that around March of 2023.
Okay, we'll see if I'm right but I think he's almost certainly going to run, but
there's absolutely no question that he's thinking about it and planning it.
That's why he's going to Iowa.
>> I definitely think he's thinking about it, right?
It's just, I'm curious to see how it all plays out.
I think your assessment of Ron DeSantis is spot on.
I thought that was the most accurate prediction.
Especially because we don't know what DeSantis would do up on a debate stage
where Trump is throwing jabs.
We've seen the way Trump, throws jabs,
especially at other Republican politicians.
Establishment politicians like Marco Rubio little Marco Jeb Bush
just constantly making fun of him and it worked right?
I don't know if DeSantis would be prepared with the counter jobs necessary
to kind of like overpower Trump.
I just don't see it happening.
Whereas Tucker Carlson maybe.
>> Yeah, no, no, definitely.
>> Yeah. >> So listen,
I think this is how the primary would go if all of this plays out.
>> But I don't know,
Tucker Carlson was like a little delicate flower on the debate stage with you.
>> I don't that's because he was debating.
>> No Cenk, relax.
>> Okay, no, no, I'm serious and I'll get to that in a second.
Okay, so in the Republican primaries, here's how it'll go if they all run.
Okay, Tucker and Donald Trump will take out everyone instantly except DeSantis,
they'll just look at them and they'll wet their pants and they'll leave.
Okay, no one else has a chance then they'll gang up under DeSantis and
they'll shred them and if DeSantis will get scared and he'll run,
okay then they'll be mano a mano.
The thing is Tucker is way way smarter than Donald Trump and
it's actually relatively easy to beat Donald Trump.
You just get under his skin.
So if anyone actually had courage and intelligence,
it's not hard to beat Donald Trump.
Now here comes the scary part guys,
there is a 0% chance that an establishment Democrat could be Tucker Carlson.
There's some percentage chance they could be Donald Trump.
There is no chance they could be Tucker Carlson, 0%.
So the only people who could beat Tucker Carlson in 2024 if all of
this happens is a progressive, you're gonna say it's self serving,
I don't mean me it's self serving.
No, I'm telling you, they'll never believe it.
It doesn't matter how many times I say everyone in this house, I don't know.
Pete Budaj is will beat them you idiots, you idiots.
No, I think Kamala Harris could do it my God, you fools,
you'll walk us right into fascism.
Okay, so look I don't know right now we're in the middle of I
don't know in regards to Nina Turner, but
I'm positive Nina Turner could beat Tucker Carlson, okay.
And there are two other people on the left who could beat him,
that's for another day.