>>> HILLARY WANTED TO PUT UP WIND, WIND.
WIND, WIND. IF YOU -- IF YOU HAVE A WINDMILL
ANYWHERE NEAR YOUR HOUSE,
CONGRATULATIONS, YOUR HOUSE JUST
WENT DOWN 75% IN VALUE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> AND THEY SAY THE NOISE CAUSES
CANCER.
CANCER. YOU TELL ME THAT ONE, OKAY?
THE THING MAKES -- AND OF COURSE
IT’S LIKE A GRAVEYARD FOR BIRDS.
IF YOU LOVE BIRDS, YOU’D NEVER
WANT TO WALK UNDER A WINDMILL
BECAUSE IT’S A VERY SAD, SAD
SIGHT.
SIGHT. IT’S LIKE A CEMETERY, WE PUT A
LITTLE STATUE FOR THE POOR
BIRDS.
BIRDS. IT’S TRUE.
IT’S TRUE. YOU KNOW, IN CALIFORNIA IF YOU
SHOOT A BALD EAGLE, THEY PUT YOU
IN JAIL FOR FIVE YEARS.
>> THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
UNITED STATES. >> IS THAT A REAL THING?
>> THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA LAST
NIGHT AND THERE WAS A LOT IN
THAT ONE SECTION.
BUT THE SPECIFIC POINT WE NOTICE
SECOND-DEGREE ONE THE
ED WAS ONE POINT.
HE SAID WINDMILLS CAUSE CANCER.
BUT THAT’S NOT TRUE.
THE ATLANTIC LOOKED INTO THIS
THEORY AND FOUND IT IS A FACT
THAT WIND TURBINES EMIT A
LOW-LEVEL NOISE AND AN OLD
THEORY IS ITS HARMFUL TO HUMAN
BEINGS.
BEINGS. INFRASOUND HAS BEEN BLAMED FOR
HEALTH ISSUES IN THE PAST.
IT COMES FROM RESEARCH THAT WAS
DONE BACK IN THE 1960s IN WHICH
A RUSSIAN-BORN FRENCH SCIENTIST
PERFORMED AN UNSCIENTIFIC STUDY.
HE CLAIMED HE FOUND PROOF THAT
INTRASOUND HARMED HUMAN HEALTH
BUT LATER RESEARCHERS POINTED
OUT THAT HE HAD ZERO EVIDENCE
THAT COULD MEASURE INFRASOUND.
BUT IT FOUND HARMFUL AFFECTS
NONETHELESS, ACTUAL SCIENTISTS
LOOKED AT THE STUDY AND FOUND
THAT HE OVERLOOKED THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FREQUENCY AND
VOLUME.
VOLUME. AND WHILE THERE ARE NO STUDIES
SHOWING THAT INFRASONIC
FREQUENCIES CAUSE ANY HARM, THE
DANGEROUS VOLUME HE PERFORMED
HIS STUDIES WITH DID CAUSE HARM.
INFRASOUND IS NOT INAUDIBLE.
IT’S KIND OF LIKE SAYING, BABY
SHARK IS HARMFUL TO THE HUMAN
HEALTH AFTER PLAGUE IT AT FULL
BLAST THROUGH THE SPEAKERS AND
BURSTING SOMEONE’S EARDRUMS.
I THINK IT’S BAD FOR MY MENTAL
HEALTH AND WE’RE SURROUNDED BY
HARMLESS SOURCES FROM WAVES,
STORMS, BLOWING WINDS, CITY
NOISES, TAKE YOUR PICK.
WE EXPERIENCE IT IN ALL PARTS OF
YOUR LIVES AND THERE ARE NO
NEGATIVE AFFECTS.
NEGATIVE AFFECTS. BUT THERE MAY BE ANOTHER REASON
THAT THE PRESIDENT BROUGHT THIS
UP.
UP. DEBUNKED CONSPIRACY THEORY, THE
PRESIDENT LOST A LAWSUIT OVER A
WIND FARM NOW COMPLETE OFF THE
COAST BY HIS GOLF RESORT
SOMETHING THAT HE CLAIMED SPOIL
IT HAD VIEW FROM HIS PROPERTY,
BUT A COURT RULED AGAINST HIM.
I DON’T WANT TO BE --
>> THAT’S JUST NUTS.
>> I DON’T WANT TO BE SASSY
ABOUT THIS.
ABOUT THIS. >> IT’S RIDICULOUS.
THEY WAISTED TIME DEBUNKING
IT --
IT -- >> THAT WASN’T DINNER PARTY
ENTERTAINMENT.
ENTERTAINMENT. THAT’S THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES TALKING ABOUT WIND
TURBINES MAKING NONSENSE UP.
>> IF IT WERE STANDUP COMEDY,
THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTING.
I WANT TO GO INTO WHERE THESE
CONSPIRACY THEORIES GET TO WHERE
THEY GET.
THEY GET. BEN COLLINS IS WITH US.
WHERE DOES THIS CONSPIRACY
DEVELOP?
DEVELOP? >> IT STARTED WITH MONEY AS MOST
OF THESE THINGS DO.
THE FOSSIL FUEL LOBBY IN
AUSTRALIA, WEIRDLY ENOUGH,
BANKROLLED A BUNCH OF CONSPIRACY
THEORIES.
THEORIES. NOT JUST ON THE INTERNET BUT
THINGS LIKE CITY COUNCIL
MEETINGS AND OVER TIME PEOPLE
STARTED TO REALIZE THAT MAYBE
THE SCIENCE ISN’T GREAT.
THE SCIENCE AS YOU KNOW WAS NOT
GREAT.
GREAT. BUT IT SEEDED THIS INTO THE
ECOSYSTEM.
ECOSYSTEM. AND THEN THERE WERE WEBSITES
WHICH AN ANTI-VAX WEBSITE, THE
CREATOR OF --
>> THERE’S A WEBSITE CALLED
NATURAL NEWS WHO WAS CREATED BY
SOMEONE WHO CREATED A WEBSITE TO
TROLL PARKLAND STUDENTS?
THAT’S SICKENING.
THAT’S SICKENING. >> PEOPLE WHO TRADE IN FEAR TAKE
THIS STUFF AND STAY MAYBE IT
ISN’T DEBUNKED.
ISN’T DEBUNKED. AND THEN YOU SEE THESE LITTLE
COMMUNITY MESSAGE BOARDS, THINGS
ON FACEBOOK, WEBSITES, THAT SAY,
YOU KNOW, WE DON’T REALLY WANT
OUR WIND TURBINE IN OUR TOWN,
MAYBE THIS WEBSITE IS ACTUALLY
THE TRUTH ABOUT IT.
>> AND SO THIS IS --
>> YOU CAN ALWAYS FIND DATA TO
BACK UP WHATEVER ARGUMENT YOU
WANT.
WANT. >> YOU CAN, BUT AS BEN HAS
PROVED TO US TIME AND TIME
AGAIN, THAT HAS REACHED PH.D.
LEVEL IN AMERICA.
PEOPLE WHO WILL SEED DOUBT HAS
REACHED PH.D. LEVEL.
IT’S NOT TROLLS WHO KNOW NOTHING
ABOUT NOTHING.
ABOUT NOTHING. THIS IS SOPHISTICATED TO THE
POINT THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES NOW SAYS THIS
NONSENSE IN FRONT OF A CROWD AND
PEOPLE AND WE KNOW THERE’S A
BASE OF PEOPLE WHO TAKE WHAT HE
SAYS AND THEN WHEN WE DEBUNK IT,
SOME --
SOME -- >> GUESS WHAT, SOME OF THOSE
PEOPLE ARE GOOD AMERICANS WHO
THINK YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
AND IT’S JUST SO DANGEROUS FOR
HIM TO SPREAD SUCH FALSEHOODS.
>> I THINK THE SAME -- BECAUSE
WE KNOW THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T
REALLY USE THE INTERNET.
HE DOESN’T SIT AROUND AND GO TO
NATURAL NEWS.COM.
NATURAL NEWS.COM. THAT’S THE SAME ISSUE THAT THE
PRESIDENT HAS.
PRESIDENT HAS. THEY HEAR IT, THEY’RE ON THE
GOLF COURSE, THEY HEAR IT FROM A
FRIEND AND THEY DON’T WANT A
WIND TURBINE IN TOWN EITHER.
>> IT STARTS WITH THE NARRATIVE.