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>> Harris: CANADA IS
INTENSIFYING ITS CRACKDOWN ON
THE FREEDOM CONVOY AFTER
TRUCKERS PROTESTED COVID
RESTRICTIONS SHUT DOWN PART OF A
MAJOR INTERNATIONAL CROSSING,
KNOWN AS THE AMBASSADOR BRIDGE.
YOU’VE PROBABLY HEARD ABOUT IT
BY NOW.
SIMILAR CONVOYS ARE POPPING UP
ALL OVER EUROPE AND PARTS OF THE
WORLD, THE DEPARTMENT OF OMITTED
SECURITY IS NOW MONITORING THAT
THEY COULD SPREAD HERE.
I’M HARRIS FAULKNER, THIS IS
"OUTNUMBERED."
TODAY I’M WITH STUDIO IN THE
STUDIO WITH EMILY COMPAGNO AND
KAYLEIGH McENANY.
DEMOCRATIC CONSULTANT LAURA FINK
IS ONE OF OUR GUESTS THAT I
APPEARED AT THEIR VERY FIRST
TIME ON "OUTNUMBERED."
GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE.
IN THE CENTER SEAT, FORMER UTAH
CONGRESSMAN AND FOX NEWS
CONTRIBUTOR, JASON CHAFFETZ.
WERE GOING TO GET AT IT NOW BE
THE FREEDOM CONVOYS HAVING MAJOR
IMPLICATIONS OUTSIDE OF CANADA
WITH MAJOR PROTESTS PICKING UP
SPEED IN FRANCE, AND THE
NETHERLAND.
IT’S ALSO STALLING TRAFFIC ON
THE U.S. AMBASSADOR BRIDGE
BETWEEN DETROIT AND WINDSOR,
ONTARIO.
THAT CAUSED FORD TO SHUT DOWN
ITS PLANT IN THE MOTOR CITY
BECAUSE IT’S CAR PARTS COULDN’T
GET THROUGH THE BLOCKED BORDER
CROSSING.
THIS COMES AS THE DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY’S TRACKING
REPORTS OF UP POTENTIAL TRUCK
CONVOY IN AMERICA, WHEN THEY
COULD TRY TO DISRUPT THE
SUPER BOWL.
LAST HOUR, SOMETIMES IF YOU JUST
GO TO THE SOURCE AND YOU ASK
PEOPLE THEY WILL TALK TO YOU AND
THEY’LL TELL YOU WHAT’S COMING.
LET’S WATCH.
>> I THINK THIS COMING SUNDAY
FOR THE SUPER BOWL IS
MISINFORMATION THAT’S BEING
PLAYED.
IT’S NOT THAT -- IT’S NOT REALLY
THAT SOON.
IT’S GOING TO COME HERE.
THE GUYS IN AMERICA ARE GOING TO
SHOW THE WORLD WHAT WE CAN DO.
WHERE THE LAND OF THE FRAY,
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS
THESE TRUCKERS FOR EVERYTHING
THEY’VE DONE AND EVERYTHING THEY
WILL DO.
>> Harris: YOU KNOW WHAT I
LOVED ABOUT TALKING TO BRIAN
ABOUT JASON IS THE FACT THAT
KNOWING HIS PLACE IN THE WORLD.
HE SAID TO THE AUDIENCE ON THE
FAULKNER FOCUS, THAT TRUCKERS
RULED THE WORLD.
I WAS STUNNED BECAUSE HE’S
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
SO FOR THEM TO WALK ON THIS
BECAUSE, IT IS INTERESTING TO
WATCH BECAUSE THERE WILL BE SOME
BLOWBACK.
THERE WILL BE SOME TRAFFIC IN
BLOCKAGE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
>> Jason: MOST AMERICANS
PROBABLY JUST WANT TO BE LEFT
ALONE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE HEROES, AS WE
STARTED THE COVID PANDEMIC AND
ALL THE PROBLEMS, THEY WERE THE
FIRST RESPONDENT SCUM OF THE
NURSES, THE PARENTS THAT
SUDDENLY HAD TO HOMESCHOOL AND
TAKE CARE OF THEIR KIDS, AND
THEY WERE THE TRUCKERS OUT THERE
DOING THEIR LIVES.
HERE WE ARE TWO YEARS LATER AND
I THINK THEY ARE FED UP WITH
THESE MANDATES AND MASK MANDATES
AND PASSPORTS AND OTHER THINGS.
SO WHEN THAT MASS OF PEOPLE LED
BY THE TRUCKERS NOW THAT CAN GO
OUT AND TAKE THEIR TRUCKS, TAKE
THE TOOLS OF THEIR TRADE AND BE
ABLE TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES IN A
PEACEFUL WAY, IT JUST SHOWS THAT
THERE ARE SOME REAL TONE-DEAF
PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO WON’T EVEN
TALK TO THESE PEOPLE AND
UNDERSTAND THE PERIL THEY ARE
GOING THROUGH.
FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU TO NOT EVEN
TALK TO THESE PEOPLE IS JUST
WRONG.
FOR THE DEMOCRATS, THE WOKE
CROWD THAT THINKS THESE ARE
REALLY BAD PEOPLE AND ALL THAT,
SHAME ON YOU.
THE TRUCKERS HAVE NEVER BEEN THE
PROBLEM.
THEY ARE THE HEART OF AMERICA.
MY GUESS IS THEY ARE THE HEART
OF CANADA TOO.
THEY DO A TOUGH JOB AND WHEN WE
NEEDED THEM THEY WERE THERE
DOING THEIR JOB.
THEY WERE OUT ON THE ROAD
DELIVERING OUR GOODS.
>> Harris: WE DIDN’T EVEN
KNOW.
YOU KNOW IT’S INTERESTING, I
WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT
RIGHT, THIS IS NOT ANTI-VACCINE.
THAT’S ONE THING BRIAN ILSLEY
AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT.
WHEN YOU’RE REPORTING YOU WANT
TO SAY IT’S ANTI-VACCINE
MANDATE.
JASON PUT IT BEAUTIFULLY,
MANDATING ANYTHING AT THIS
POINT.
THAT’S MANDATED THAT THEY GET
WHAT THEY NEED SO THEY CAN
CONTINUE TO DO THEIR JOB.
90% OF THE TRUCKERS, THEY ARE
ALREADY VACCINATED.
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
THAT.
YOU’RE ASKING THEM TO GO ABOVE
AND THEY SAID NO TO THAT WHAT
ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?
BEFORE WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHO
THIS REALLY IS.
THAT’S FROM THE TRUCKERS MELTS
THEMSELVES THAT IT HAS BEEN
VACCINE.
90% OF THE TRUCKERS ARE
VACCINATED BUT 90% OF THE
TRUCKERS DON’T SUPPORT THE
PROTEST.
THIS IS ALLOWED ON VOCAL
MINORITY OF TRUCKERS THAT
HAVE -- THEY ARE BORROWING A
PAGE FROM THE TEAMSTERS
PLAYBOOK.
BUT I WOULD SAY BE VERY CAREFUL.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC ON
YOUR SIDE.
MORE THAN 80% OF CANADIANS ARE
VACCINATED, YOU CAN’T GET AWAY
WITH INCONVENIENCING THEM,
STOPPING SMALL BUSINESS, AND
THROWING A WRENCH IN THINGS FOR
YOUR MINORITY OPINION AND CAUSE.
I WOULD SAY TO BE SUCCESSFUL
THEY BETTER BE AWARE OF THE
PUBLIC AND WHAT THE PUBLIC
THINKS AND WHAT OTHER TRUCKERS
THINK.
>> Harris: ALL RIGHT, LAURA, I
DON’T WANT TO CONFLATE TWO
THINGS.
I THINK WHAT YOU’RE READING COME
OF THE 90% -- THE ASSUMPTION IS
THAT IF 90% OF THEM ARE
VACCINATED, THEN 90% OF THEM
MUST BE AGAINST THIS.
THOSE TWO THINGS DON’T
NECESSARILY GO TOGETHER.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE PROTESTING
ARE VACCINATED.
SO THEY ARE PART OF THAT 90%.
>> Laura: IT IS A TRUE
MINORITY.
>> Harris: SOME OF THE ONES
WHO ARE PROTESTING MANDATES.
IT’S A SLIPPERY SLOPE WHEN YOU
ARE MANDATING THINGS.
>> DO YOU HAVE A DATA POINT,
LAURA?
>> Laura: THERE ALL VACCINATED
VACCINATED.
>> LAURA, I’M VACCINATED, AND
I’M AGAINST MANDATES.
>> Laura: THAT’S OKAY, THAT’S
NOT MY POINT.
>> Harris: BUT IT’S THE POINT
YOU MADE.
>> Kayleigh: $10 MILLION OF
FUNDS RAISED.
THAT IS MORE THAN EVERY SINGLE
CANADIAN POLITICAL PARTY IN THE
LAST QUARTER OF 2021.
YOU DON’T HAVE A DATA POINT AND
I DO.
>> Laura: HERE’S A DATA POINT
FOR YOU COME OF THE TEAMSTERS
ARE AGAINST IT AND HAVE SAID
THIS IS IN VIOLATION OF THE
TEAMSTER.
THEY REPRESENT A MAJORITY OF THE
TRUCKERS IN CANADA.
>> Harris: LAURA, ONE THING
THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THIS
PROGRAM IS WE HAVE TO GIVE EACH
OTHER A BEAT AND I WANT TO MAKE
SURE WE ARGUE WITH RESPECT.
YOU BROUGHT UP A POINT YOU KNOW
WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.
IT IS A GO FUND ME SITUATION.
THEY CAN TELL YOU WHERE THE
MONEY IS COMING FROM.
THEY HAVE NOW TAKEN THAT MONEY,
GOFUNDME, AND DECIDED THEY
WANTED TO SEND IT ON OTHER
THINGS.
THEY DON’T WANT TO SPEND IT ON
THE CAUSE OF HELPING TRUCKERS
BECAUSE THEY HAVE A POLITICAL
FIGHT IN THIS GAME.
YOU’VE OPENED A BIT OF A
PANDORA’S BOX WITH THAT BUT I
WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME
INFORMATION ON THE PIER LET’S GO
TO EMILY NO.
>> Emily: YEAH I WILL JUST SAY
THAT HEARING THAT POINT OF VIEW
UNFORTUNATELY THE BIAS AND
OVERGENERALIZED SCENARIO WERE
USING DELMA CARING FROM THE LEFT
AND THE CANADIAN LEADERSHIP.
THE MAYOR OF THE CANADIAN TOWN
THAT BORDERS THE BRIDGE, THE
AMBASSADOR BRIDGE, HE SAID WERE
NOT DEALING WITH RATIONAL
ACTORS.
HE SAID POLICE ARE DOING WHAT’S
RIGHT BY TAKING A MODERATE
APPROACH IN TRYING TO CREATE A
SITUATION WHERE EVERYONE CAN
WALK AWAY AND NOBODY WILL GET
HURT.
YOU’RE TRYING TO HAVE A RATIONAL
CONVERSATION AND NOT EVERYONE IS
RATIONAL BID THIS ON THE HEELS
OF JUSTIN TRUDEAU CALLING THEM
SYMPATHIZERS AND PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN PAINTING THIS WITH A
CERTAIN BRUSHSTROKE, INCLUDING
ABC, "POLITICO," NUMEROUS
ARTICLES IN THE MEDIA COVERING
IT IN THIS COUNTRY WHO SAY
IMMEDIATELY OF THE FIRST
PARAGRAPH THAT THERE IS SOME
TYPE OF CORRELATION BETWEEN
WHITE SUPREMACY --
>> Harris: WHY DO YOU THINK
THEY DO THAT?
>> Emily: IGNORING THE FACT
THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE STANDING
UP FOR LIBERTY.
WHEN THEY ADDRESS THAT AND THEY
SAY THE TRUCKERS HAVE STATED WE
ARE SIMPLY HERE FOR LIBERTIES.
THEY TRY TO COUNTERBALANCE THAT.
THEY BRING UP THE FACT THAT THE
90% THAT LAURA BROUGHT UP AS
SOME TYPE OF INDICATION OF WHERE
THEY STAND.
I WAS A FEDERAL ATTORNEY MADE
WHICH MEANT I WAS UNIONIZED.
I KNOW WHAT IT’S LIKE TO BE
FALSELY REPRESENTED BY A UNION
THAT DOES NOT REPRESENT MY
VIEWS.
THE NOTION THAT THESE GUYS ARE
SOME KIND OF FRENCH GROUP THAT I
THINK IS BELIED BY EVERYTHING I
JUST SET AND THE $10 MILLION IN
DONATIONS FOR GOFUNDME
$98 MILLION RAISED SINCE THEN.
>> Harris: I STILL WANT TO
KNOW WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO SPEND
THAT MONEY AND BECAUSE THEY’RE
NOT GOING TO GIVE THOSE
DONATIONS BACK AND THAT’S WHAT
SENATOR TOM CRUISE SAID, WOULD
YOU GIVE ALL THAT MONEY TO THAT
ORGANIZATION UP THE TRUCKERS, IF
IT DOESN’T GO THERE THEY DON’T
HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEND IT ON
OTHER THINGS.
I WANT TO COME BACK TO YOU
THOUGH, AND I HAD A THOUGHT ON
WHAT I WAS ASKING YOU BECOME A
PART THE REASON THE MEDIA WILL
COUCH IT A CERTAIN WAY AND MAKE
THEM WORK THE WAY THEY DO IS
BECAUSE THE WHITE HOUSE DOESN’T
WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
>> OF COURSE.
THERE’S A A PROBLEM, HARRIS, THE
POLITICAL ELITES ARE SO FAR OUT
OF TOUCH WITH THE PEOPLE.
WE ARE AT THAT POINT.
WE SEE THESE MOMENTS IN HISTORY.
THE TEA PARTY, BRECK SAID,
NOBODY SAW THAT COMING.
THE ELECTION OF PRESIDENT TRUMP
OVER HILLARY CLINTON, NOBODY SAW
THAT COMING.
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS WHERE
THE PARENTS VOCALIZED THEIR
OPPOSITION TO WHAT THE SCHOOL
BOARD IS DOING.
WE ARE SO FED UP WITH THE
ANTISCIENTIFIC PANDEMIC PADDLERS
IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEY’RE
SAYING WE ARE GOING TO MAKE OUR