Nathanael Morton: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome
to another video. My name is Nathanael Morton and I am a vertical jump coach and I have helped
thousands of athletes increase their vertical jump higher and dunk a basketball and I will help you
do the same thing. If you simply comment "jump" down below in the comment section,
I will send you a free body weight vertical jump training program. In today's video,
I'm going to be reviewing the vertical jump training program and the coaching in general
of none other than Kneesovertoesguy. He doesn't have a YouTube channel, but he's very big and
very popular on Instagram for doing crazy exercises where he puts his knees over his toes.
Nathanael Morton: There was a study done in 1978 that said
you should never ever put your knees past your toes because it leads to knee pain. And the whole
entire world just followed suit and we all said okay. The research says it, and it says if we put
our knees past our toes, we're going to get knee pain so if you ever saw anybody squatting with a
centimeter of their knees going past your toes, I said, "Hey, don't do that. That's bad. You're
going to get knee pain." And it wasn't until years later when people started scratching their heads.
Now Kneesovertoesguy made it famous. Nathanael Morton:
He wasn't the first one, but he is the individual who made it famous, and who said, "Wait,
it's not that we shouldn't put our knees past our toes, it's that we should get our knees strong in
those positions of our knees being past our toes," because in sports and basketball and other sports,
you're going to put your knees past your toes, and if your knees aren't strong in those positions,
then you get injured. So why not just train in those positions with our knees past our toes
so that when that does happen in sports, because it is going to, our bodies will
already know what that's like, because we have been training like that for months, for years.
Nathanael Morton: So listen, I am 100%
on board with the Kneesovertoesguy revolution, because we should be training with our knees
past our toes so that when that does happen in basketball and other sports, we are
ready for that and we don't get injuries. So let's go through his vertical jump training program.
Let's see how good it is. Let's see how good his coaching is. Let's see if it will
increase your vertical jump. Let's see if it will prevent injury. And let's just see what he has to
offer and where it stacks up compared to all of the other vertical jump programs. Let's go.
Nathanael Morton: And by the way, as I mentioned in
my last video, I already have Kneesovertoesguy's coaching. I don't do his programs, but I literally
subscribed $50 a month just for the information that is available on his website.
Kneesovertoesguy's coaching is $50 per month, Vert Shock was $67, Nick Briz's program was $67, Isaiah
Rivera with THP Strength is $89 a month, or at least the version that I chose. Overtime Athletes
was $134. Flight School was 29.99. Jordan Kilganon was $77. Vert Code Bodyweight was
$85, and Vert Code Elite was 27.50 per month, or $275 for lifetime access. So very quickly before
we get into his vertical jump training program, I just want to give you a little overview of why I
would pay $50 a month for a program that I don't even use, and what else you will get when you do
this $50 a month subscription. Nathanael Morton:
So you actually get... Not only do you get a vertical jump training program,
not only do you get a knee program, you get ankle ability, how to dunk, back ability, shin ability,
shoulder ability, wrist ability. There's literally everything, there is so much information on this
website that you could study it for hours and hours and hours, and you still would not get
through all of the knowledge and information that he has to offer. And I'm telling you,
if you get this, take notes. One hour a week. One hour a day is better. Take notes on this guy,
because you can learn so much from just going through his website in general.
Nathanael Morton: So the vertical jump training
program is available on his app and he has two different programs. I believe there's only two,
but there is a standards program, and then there is an advanced vertical jump training program. So
in order to access his advanced vertical jump training program, you need to first be able
to pass all of his standards. I do the same thing with my Indestructible Knees program, but they are
called progression tests, and I don't let people go to the next phase of the knee program unless
they can pass the progression test with no pain, because if you just keep going and you still have
pain, then you're going to continue to overload and it's not going to work. So progression test.
Standards, before you get into that is basically like the base phase of a PJF or an eccentric
phase of the Overtime Athletes program. Nathanael Morton:
So it is very good, and the one thing that you can make certain is if you do ATG programming,
you will not get injured. That's something that we can't really say about other programs. Now listen,
I love the Lost Breed, but they had hurdle jumps the first day of training. You can't just go out
and do hurdle jumps. You can't just go out and do depth jumps. And hurdle jumps are repeated depth
jumps. You need to do shock jumps first, and then you need to do shock pause jumps. Then you need to
do depth jump. Then you need to do hurdle jumps, where you give a little mini jump in between.
You can't just go out and do hurdle jumps. Nathanael Morton:
Some people can, like a lot of you can because you are already doing vertical jump training. You're
already playing basketball. You're already doing plyometrics. You're already doing strengthening.
You're already doing for [forcep 00:05:15] jumps, and you're already doing decelerations. You're
already building yourself from the ankle to the needs of the hip. You already know what to do.
But a beginner who just gets into flight school with the Lost Breed and starts doing harder
jumps right away, they're going to be like, "Mommy, why my shins hurt? Why my knees hurt?"
Nathanael Morton: I did go through his standards
workout one time, because I wanted to see if I could pass the standards and I would have access
to his advanced vertical jump training program so I can look at that too. And I could not pass
all of the standards. I could pass 80% of the standards, but let's see, the Patrick step-up
with 100% of your body weight on a six inch box, I could pass that one. The KOT calf raise, I could
pass that one. The tibialis raise, I could pass that one. The single leg back extension I was not
able to do. You have to get in a hyperextension machine and use one leg, not two. You have to
use one leg and you have to hold 50% of your body weight in your hand with dumbbells, and you have
to be able to do three sets of 10 reps. Nathanael Morton:
I could not do that, so I needed to work up to this, and he wouldn't let me get his advanced
program until I could do this, which I agree with. You got to make sure people are strong enough
to do your standards program before they get into your advanced program. He does have some upper
body work as well, but it's only two exercises per workout if you want to get into that too,
but I could not pass the mobility slash flexibility portion of the upper body. I was well
over how strong I needed to be, but I could not do the mobility portion of it. I could not pass
the Jefferson curl, I was not flexible enough. I could not even get close to passing the hip
flexor standard. You have to strap your feet into a cable. You have to do 50% of your body weight,
for me that's 100%, with your knees touching your torso. I can't even get my knees to touch
my torso without any weight. I'm literally that unflexible. So I need to work on this.
Nathanael Morton: I could pass the chin-ups
and I could pass the shorter press, but the one thing that trying his standards program
actually showed me is that my flexibility and my mobility is so sad. So personally,
most of my issues with the standards program had to do with flexibility. I was not flexible enough
to pass the standards. I was strong enough on all of them except hip flexor. So I really liked this,
because this is going to ensure that you do not get injured. Day one of his program is legs.
Day two of his program is legs. Day three of his program is legs. Day four and day five is a rest.
Day six is a dunk day. And day seven is a rest. Nathanael Morton:
He does have a different version of this that is Monday, Wednesday, Friday, you work out. But I
said I wanted to dun, I wanted the dunk session. So you can actually message him and tell him.
And listen, it's not actually him. It is not. He might do some of the athletes, but when I messaged
him and we were conversating, I could tell I was not talking to Kneesovertoesguy. If you do Isaiah
Rivera's coaching, you are actually talking to Isaiah Rivera or John Evans or Connor Barth. If
you do my coaching, you're actually talking to me. But his coaching is much bigger than THB strength
and my coaching. He has a staff, he has a team that messages you back, so it's not always him.
Nathanael Morton: Day one of his program.
You have some quads, you have some calves, you have tibialis, you have some hamstrings,
and then you have your upper body. Day two of his program, you've got some ATG split squats,
then you've got the Jefferson curl. You got some hip flexors. You've got some quadratus
lumborum, which no program I've ever seen has that. So this is his special back exercise to
make sure that you never have back pain in your life. Day three of his program,
you have his famous knees over toes squat. Now he didn't come up with this. This is actually
called the sissy squat. Bodybuilders have been doing this for a while, but he has taken it
way past anybody has ever done it before. The KOT squat. Then you have Nordic curls, then you
have some more calves, then you have tibialis. Then you have some rows and you have some dips.
Nathanael Morton: Then you rest for two days and you have a jump
session, and he gives you a bunch of roles for his jump session, a bunch of warmups. And then you
go through your jump session and you work on your max jumps off of all approaches, your right
foot approach, left foot approach, right left two foot approach, and left right two foot approach.
So got to love that. Also he wants you to send videos to him of your form so that he can make
sure that you are doing the exercises right, or so that his team or whoever's messaging you back
can make sure that you are doing it right. So I love that as well. They're making sure that
no one ever gets injured on their program. Nathanael Morton:
He has a lot of stretching in here, and he even has standards for his stretching and
how flexible you should be. Now listen, recently there has been some beef between PJF Performance
and Kneesovertoesguy. Paul Fabritz from PJF Performance says you shouldn't get too flexible
because there's no correlation between flexibility and vertical jump. Kneesovertoesguy says,
"You might be right, but there is a correlation between lack of flexibility and injury." So should
you stretch or should you not stretch? That is the question. Here's my answer, and listen, this is
just my opinion. Both of these individuals know so much more than me. If they didn't, I wouldn't be
sitting here studying their programs in studying their website and their information in their
podcast for one hour each per week, which I need to do more of because I'm not studying enough,
but here's my conclusion. Here's my opinion. Nathanael Morton:
You need to be able to move your muscles and your joints through the full ranges of motion.
If you can't do that, you are more likely to get injured. You don't got to be crazy flexible,
but you have to be able to move your muscles and your joints through the full ranges of motion, but
you need to be strong through the full ranges of motion. So if you're just going out and doing yoga
and just stretching for two hours a day and not doing any strength training, then yeah,
you might get really flexible and not be strong in those positions. But if you are
doing strength training and you are stretching and strengthening through the full ranges of motion,
then you're going to be the best athlete possible. Nathanael Morton:
So do I agree with Paul Fabritz that you shouldn't stretch? Absolutely not. But do I agree
that there's no correlation? There probably isn't a correlation between stretching and
vertical jump. He wouldn't just say that to say that. He wouldn't just make that up. But
there is a correlation between lack of flexibility and injury, so you need to
stretch. You just need to be strong through the full ranges of motion. That's my opinion.
Nathanael Morton: And guys that is actually
it for his program. It is one week of programming repeated over and over and over until you pass the
standards, which is definitely different. I don't disagree with it, but it's not like your beginner
phase and then you have your intermediate phase and then you go to a concentric phase and then you
to a spring phase. It's not like that. It's just one week repeated over and over and over until you
pass the standards, then he gives you the advanced program, which I was obviously not strong enough
or flexible enough to get to his advanced program, so I don't actually know what that is like. So
listen, these are my conclusions. Nathanael Morton:
Now, there are two different versions of his standards program. There's one where you have
legs on Monday legs on Tuesday, legs on Wednesday, rest two days, and then a dunk session,
and then rest the seventh day. And then there is a Monday legs, Tuesday rest, Wednesday legs,
Thursday rest, Friday legs, Saturday, Sunday rest session, and there's no dunk session
in that version of the program. He does have different levels of plyometrics and
bounding that you can do on the rest day. So he says you can rest, or you can do some
reverse sleds, or you could do some stretching, or you could do some plyometrics and some bounding,
or you could do all three if you want. But he says if you get into the advanced bounding and
plyometric session, you should only do that one of those rest days that you have throughout weak.
Nathanael Morton: Kneesovertoesguy is very unconventional. It's
not bad, because he's literally transforming many, many athletes. You can see it on his Instagram.
This guy is getting people results. Just because we haven't seen it before. Doesn't mean that it's
wrong. We all need to keep an open mind. And the results don't lie. You can check his Instagram and
his Instagram story and there are post after post after post of people dunking, "Yeah, increased my
vertical, fixed my knee pain, I'm better at this, I have no more back pain, no more elbow pain." He
is really changing lives. But is it going to give you as many inches as all of these other programs?
Nathanael Morton: I do think that this program will
make you more bulletproof than any other program, and that is not something that we could say about
many programs. Most vertical jump programs will get you injured. That's literally the
sad truth. Most vertical jump training programs will get you injured. They will overload too fast.
They won't do enough force absorption or deceleration. They won't give you an eccentric
phase. They are going to be missing something, or they're going to give you hurdle jumps at first,
or one leg jumps up some bleachers at first. You can't just jump straight into that stuff.
You're going to get shin splints. You're going to get patellar tendonitis. You might get some
injuries, unless you've been doing some strength training or some basketball or plyometrics before
that. But beginners, most vertical jump training programs will get them injured.
But his program will make you 100% bulletproof so that you never get injured again, which is huge.
Nathanael Morton: Will that get you as many inches as
THP Strength with Isaiah Rivera and John Evans and Connor Barth? No, I don't think so. I think the
THP Strength will get you the absolute most raw inches on your vertical. I think PJF performance
is the best basketball specific vertical jump training program. I think Overtime Athletes
and Bounce Kit by Jordan Kilganon are also very good, and I think Kneesovertoesguy will get you a
tremendous amount of inches on your vertical jump while getting you stronger while getting you more
bulletproof. So this is going to be the number one bulletproof program. PJF Performance is the
number one basketball specific vertical jump training program. THP Strength is the number
one program if you want raw athleticism and raw inches on your vertical, and that's my conclusion.
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