How much do you know about God, Let me ask...
He thinks you know God more than God Himself.
It’s all categories of created things.
Are you listening to reply or are you listening to learn?
Because I feel like you are listening to reply.
Do you believe, can I get yes or no..
Do you believe God has body parts?
No, we never affirm nor Nor do we negate.
So you don't say no...
We never affirm nor we negate..
So you are agonistic about God’s body parts.
of Course, What does he mean by body part?
Or created things..
Is my existence? No....
Okay.
Why do you equate the reality of God's existence to our existence?
I don't get it. [I am not doing it]
You are no, you do it. [Islam says]
He says, He has hands, eyes...
Nope.. the thing is that you are doing that.
Are you Christian or atheist? [Nope]
It is anthropomorphic.
nope, that is not anthropomorphic.
Non-religious...
So the thing is you exist?
Yes.
I don't know if you believe in God or not...
You havn't answer for this. [ yes,probably] Does God exist?
I would say more like a yes than no...
Okay. Are your existence and His existence the same?
In terms of being existence, yes
so your existence and His existence are the same?
In terms of being, yes.
Nope, it's not.
Of course, in terms of being...as opposed to not being.. yes.., of course
the way you exist and the way Allah exists is a separate thing..exactly
In terms of a being exists.. yes.. of course..
That answers your question...
So the fact that you said of course is where the line starts because
You've accepted that you exist, He also exists but the existence is not the same.
There is a thing exists or don't exist..
Why'd you say we give Allah's attribute to anthropomorphism?
Do you know what anthropomopism means? Yeah.
Make things a human like.
Yeah, are we doing that?
You agree that your God has hands, feet, eyes...
Allah puts His Foot over hell...
There you go...
Did we say the likeness?
You tell me what it means that..
nope...
In the category of feet, right?
I just explained to you.
Your God has two feet or one?
that's the point, you know, what are you doing..
Or three feet .. how many feet does He have?
Let me tell you what you are doing..?
my friend.. these are your shoes.. are these part of you or not?
You are not helping your agrument...?
Nope.. we don't use these languages.. my friend..
Just make it simple. just stick to the salafs (the pious predecessors)
If I get somebody from Amazon jungle, he's never seen a mobile phone,
and I bring him here and then see me talking on the phone.
So he comes, this man, I got 1 second,
I answer the phone and I put a loudspeaker and I start talking.
He's going to go back to his tribe and say,
I went to UK or whatever, and I saw a person speaking to a rock,
and they're going to say, okay, the rock speaking.
They're like, yeah. Also, if he speaks, he has a tongue.
If he has a tongue, he has a head, he has limbs
Because the only thing that they can deduce it to and the only thing that they know..
is that when they have this experience of me speaking to my phone,
they saw a device and they heard sounds from it.
And when they heard sounds from it,
they said, well, it must have a tongue, it must exist, it must have limbs.
And you're doing exactly the same thing.
...category for created things.
are you listening to reply, are you listening to learn?
because I feel like you're listening to the reply, you know why?
if it was both, you would take about 10 to 20 seconds to absorb what I said.
But you just must reply...
I repeat again,
if I speak on my phone to somebody from Amazon jungle, he's going to hear what, sound..
What does he equate sound when he speaks to his tribesmen?
They have a tongue, they have a nose, they have eyes, they have a head.
It's a human being.
No necessarily ... I mean... animals around, [which animals talk]?
parrots. Okay.
Besides parrots, which you teach it, which animals can talk...
couples of birds... anyway I got your point..
The point is this you're doing exactly the same thing.
They communicate, animals communicate..
I am communicating.. look I can't even get two words
You're here to just object without understanding.
you're doing exactly the same thing as the guy from the Amazon jungle.
they don't even believe is in God..
I would say more and more likely there is God...
you're doing exactly the same thing, the guy from Amazon jungle..
the only thing that you know when it comes to hand, eyes, feet
is what you observe and see and that's all you know.
And I don't blame you for that,
but don't equate it [Can I ask a question] ....look I can't give even a reply...
look what you're doing [I apologize]
you're not listening...
can I ask a Question for that Question? [Go ahead]
You didn't like it, did you? You are doing exactly the same...
me telling .. let me ask you a question when you are telling the answer..
I apologize.. I am not very at thise...
Do you believe.. can I get yes or not...
Do you believe God has body parts?
nope, we never affirm nor we do negate..
So you don't say no..
We neither affirm nor negate.
So you are agonistic whether God has body parts.
Of course.
What does it mean by body parts?
Your sources are saying.. not mine...
Okay, what does it mean by body parts?
Hands, feet, eyes, maybe bones
Thank you.. did you see the problem..
why do you restrict limbs..?
.. you are doing the exactly the guy from the amazon jungle...
you know what have you done...? hands.. bones.. where did bones come from?
because you equated.. you can't have a hand wihtout bones.
Again, I am going to your sources...[There you go...]
Your sources say Allah put His put foot somewhere… [In the hellfire]
Is the hell fire a physical place?
Yes, it is.
? So He is going to put His non-physical foot on a physical place?
We don't know how it is done.
That shows a lot of confusion
no confusion at all...
hang on... can we say one thing..
I am a Jewish..
so do you believe in God... [Yes...]
By the way, this language; non-physical, or physical we don't say about Allah.
I want to make this very clear.
Ethnic Jew or religious Jew? [Ethnic]
This discussion is ended.
I am not here to defend Judaism.
So you believe in a Creator? [Probably yeah]
I have to go in....
Brother, can I make a clarification?
First of all, when we understand about our Creator Allah (swt), right,
Hang on...we have a mechanism of affirmation and negation.
So whatever Allah affirmed about Himself,
we affirmed and the messenger(pbuh), wait, can you let me complete okay.
We have a mechanism of affirmation and negation about Allah, right?
So we affirm about Allah what he described about Himself
and what the messenger (pbuh) of Allah affirmed,
and we negate about Allah what He negated by Himself
and what the messenger of Allah (pbuh) negated it.
What is in between we leave it to Allah.
Now, you said, you said okay, etell me anywhere in the Quran and sunnah..
and the first three generations where it says
we understand Allah's feet as non-physical.
Can you tell me anyway?
I said it has never been explained
So why are you saying it then?
I am saying it is tough for you. [why it is tough]
can I ask you a question?
Go on... this is wrong nobody says body parts.
We neither affirm nor negate...
Hang on.. can I ask you this question..
How much do you know about God?
He thinks he knows God d more than God himself
Can I ask you a question?
Who is the most knowledgeable? [about us?]
No, anything.
Can you tell me? Probably God.
Right.
So do you believe in God?
I say more yes than no.
Answer the question.
Do you believe in God or not... you are not 100%...
52 and 48%, so I say yes.
You say yes. What do you know about God?
I have to get in there at some point... I paid for that...
No, I know, but what do you know about God?
That woudn't take you to heaven.Don't worry about this is more important. Yeah.
What do you know about God?
Heaven may be there with the Rolling stone..
They're not going to help you in the grave.
So let me ask you this question.
No, let me ask you this question. [source of depression and alcohol]
Exactly. Let me ask you this question.
This is not psychological test.
By the way, I want to make this very clear.
Make it clear in a minute...
How much do you know about God? [ I can't do it in a minute]
How much do you know about God?
I'll give you 1 minute and then you can go.
Your God?
Nope, according to your concept...
the greatest deceivable being... What does that mean?...
What does that mean? [I can't help you]
very ambiguous..... explain to me...
ontological...
So, you know God's existence..
Do you know more about God's existence than God himself?
No. Thank you very much.
Yeah, that's it. That's my point.
I enjoyed... I will be back at one time...
See you late...
Assalamualaikum, brother and sisters.. Hope you are doing well.
So this brother here wants to scrutinize about Allah's existence right?
However, we have a principle laid out in our religion.
We have a mechanism of affirmation in Negation, right?
So we affirm about Allah what He described about Himself
and what the messenger (pbuh) of Allah about Allah.
And we negate about Allah what He negated about Himself,
what the messenger (pbuh) of Allah negated about Allah.
So anything in between we leave it up to Allah, right?
So when he asked the question do you believe that Allah's feet are non-physical?
These such terms are not used by the pious predecessors.
We don't know. We don't know.
We never affirm nor we negate, why?
Nowhere does the Quran and the sunna, in the Salafs ever mention these terms.
Is Allah partless, these Terminologies, none of the the pious predecessors used it.
None of the Salafs used it.
So when these people come,
you have to be very careful, you don't speak about Allah (swt) with ignorance.
This is from our Aqidah / Muslim's religious instructions.
So that's about it,
Brothers and sisters, thank you for watching ... Assalamualaikum