>>
I SIMPLY USED THE PSYCHOLOGICAL
RESEARCH TO EXPLAIN WHY THIS MAY
BE FEWER WOMEN IN CURRENT TECH
JOBS AND HOW WE COULD CHANGE
THOSE JOBS TO MAKE THEM MORE
WELCOMING TO MORE WOMEN.
NEIL: YOU CITED THAT WOMEN MAY
NOT HAVE THE TEMPERAMENT, YOU
SAID HIGHER ANXIETY, LOWER
STRESS TOLERANCE, THIS MAY
CONTRIBUTE TO THE HIGHER LEVELS
OF ANXIETY THAT WOMEN REPORT AND
THAT THE LOWER NUMBER OF WOMEN
IN HIGH STRESS JOBS.
>> THIS IS A WELL-FOUNDED
FINDING IN PSYCHOLOGY THAT WOMEN
ON SURVEYS.
IF WE MAKE THE JOB JUST LESS
STRESSFUL, YOU KNOW, LESS
80-HOUR WEEKS, WE CAN MAKE IT
JUST MORE APPEALING TO MORE
WOMEN.
>> I'M NOT THREATENED BY
DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS BEING
DISCUSSED.
IT SEEMS LIKE TODAY EVERYBODY'S
A SNOWFLAKE AND CAN'T HEAR A
DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WOMEN
SHOULD BE FREE TO MAKE THEIR OWN
CHOICES.
WHAT JAMES WAS TRYING TO DO IN
HIS MEMO WAS POINT OUT HOW
GOOGLE COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF
ATTRACTING WOMEN INTO MAKE IT
MORE AA TRACTIVE TO WOMEN --
ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN.
ELIZABETH: GOOGLE'S FIRING OF
JAMES DEMORE WAS LEGAL, THE
FIRING WAS LEGAL, ACCORDING TO
THE FEDERAL LABOR BOARD.
OUR OWN NEIL CA VETO -- CAVUTO
HAD THE FIRST EXCLUSIVE
INTERVIEW TODAY.
ALPHABET CLOSED THE DAY IN THE
GREEN UP THREE-QUARTERS OF A
PERCENT.
JOINING ME NOW, BREE PAYTON AND
KELLY GRACE GIBSON.
KELLY, FIRST TO YOU.
I SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT?
EVERYBODY'S ENTITLED TO THEIR
OPINIONS.
I'M NOT SURE THE SCIENCE IN WHAT
JAMES IS SAYING IS SETTLED.
THOSE ARE HIS OPINIONS.
SHOULD SILICON VALLEY JUST HAVE
ONE BIG PUBLIC TOWN HALL WHERE
EVERYBODY CAN JUST HASH IT OUT
WITH JAMES DEMORE?
>> NO, I MEAN, GOOGLE WAS
ALLOWED TO SET IN PLACE RULES
AND STANDARDS BY WHICH ONE
EMPLOYEE GETS TO TREAT ANOTHER
EMPLOYEE, AND YOU CAN'T PUT
SOMETHING OUT THAT MAKES OTHER
PEOPLE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST,
AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
I MEAN, HE SAID VERY FOUNDED,
BUT THERE'S DIFFERING OPINIONS
IN THAT FIELD.
HERE WE ARE THREE WOMEN ON THIS
PANEL, I'M NOT SURE ANY OF US
ARE WORRIED ABOUT HOW STRESSED
OUT WE'RE GOING TO GET.
THE COMPANY WAS ALLOWED TO MAKE
A DECISION BASED ON THOSE RULES,
AND THEY FIRED HIM.
ELIZABETH: I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BREE, MY OPINION IS JUST HAVE
EVERYBODY TALK AND, I MEAN, AND
THEN HASH IT OUT.
TO KELLY'S POINT, GOOGLE DID NOT
BREAK THE LAW TOURING HIM,
GOOGLE RIGHTFULLY HAS ITS OWN
POLICIES IN PLACE AND DEMORE
VIOLATED THE POLICIES ON
HARASSMENT AND DISCRIMINATION.
HIS MEMO WAS SO HARMFUL AND
DISRUPTIVE, THEY HAD TO FIRE
HIM.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
>> WHETHER OR NOT WHAT GOOGLE
DID IS LEGAL ISN'T REALLY THE
PROBLEM.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW,
OUR SILICON VALLEY OVERLORDS ARE
NOT TOLERANT TO PEOPLE AND THEY
DON'T AGREE WITH AND PEOPLE THAT
THEY DISAGREE WITH.
AND GOOGLE DOES THIS ALL THE
TIME, AND THIS IS EXACTLY THE
PROBLEM THAT CONSERVATIVES SAY
IS THE PROBLEM WITH GOOGLE AND
HOW THEY ARE SO BIASED AND HOW
THEY TREAT CONSERVATIVES AND
CONSERVATIVE OPINIONS.
JUST RECENTLY GOOGLE LOST --
WELL, OKAY, GOOGLE LAUNCHED ITS
FACT CHECK NEWS SITES IN ORDER
TO ALERT SEARCHERS AGAINST FAKE
NEWS, OKAY?
IF YOU GOOGLE THE FEDERAL
LIST.COM WHICH IS WHERE I WRITE,
IT'LL TELL YOU THAT WE'VE MADE A
NUMBER OF CLAIMS THAT WE HAVE
NOT MADE.
IT'LL TELL YOU A BUNCH OF LIES
ABOUT OUR WEB SITE THAT YOU CAN
JUST BASICALLY CLICK ON THE
LINKS YOURSELF AND SEE THAT
SNOPES IS GARBAGE, AND THIS IS
WHAT GOOGLE DOES ROUTINELY, THEY
PARTNER AND DO THINGS TO SILENCE
CONSERVATIVES.
ELIZABETH: DEMORE TALKED ABOUT
THE BIAS IN SILICON VALLEY, THE
GROUP THINK THERE.
HE SAID WOMEN HAVE A HIGHER
EROTICISM, HE NOTED MEN'S
PREVALENCE AT THE TOP OF THE IQ
DISTRIBUTION.
LET'S LISTEN TO HIM TALK.
>> 80% OF CONSERVATIVES FEEL
LIKE THEY CAN'T BRING UP SOCIAL
ISSUES AT WORK IN SILICON
VALLEY, AND IT'S REALLY UNCLEAR
WHAT EXACTLY YOU CAN AND CAN'T
SAY, WHICH JUST ADDS TO THE
CHILLING EFFECT.
YOU DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT VOTED
FOR TRUMP BECAUSE NO ONE IS
WILLING TO ADMIT THAT THEY DID.
THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE THAT
SHOWED THEIR SUPPORT PRIVATELY
BUT TOLD ME THAT THEY REALLY
WEREN'T WILLING TO SHOW ANY
PUBLIC SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY,
TOO, FEARED THAT THEY WOULD GET
FIRED.
THEY DEFINITELY TRIED TO SMEAR
ME AS SOME MISOGYNYST, RACIST,
YOU KNOW, CRAZY PERSON, AND I
WAS REALLY JUST TRYING TO
IMPROVE THE WORKPLACE.
ELIZABETH: ALL RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I'VE READ THROUGH WHAT
HE SAID AND, YOU KNOW, THIS
WHOLE ARGUMENT SEEMS TO BE
RIPPED OFF ITS MOORINGS.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT HE'S
SAYING CAN BE CALLED THE
CONSERVATIVE VIEWPOINT.
IT'S NAIVE ANALYSIS OF SCIENCE
THAT'S VERY MUCH IN PLAY STILL.
I MEAN, CONSERVATIVE WOMEN DON'T
AGREE WITH HIM.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK SILICON
VALLEY SHOULD JUST HAVE A PUBLIC
TOWN HALL AND SAY, PONY UP, SHOW
YOUR SCIENCE THAT YOU THINK YOU
HAVE SOLID OPINIONS ABOUT, AND
LET'S DEBATE IT.
>> I THINK THE WHOLE THING IS
LIKE CONSERVATIVES CAN SAY THEIR
VIEWPOINTS, THEY JUST DON'T LIKE
WHAT THEY HEAR BACK.
THIS HAPPENS IN ALL OTHER PARTS
OF THE COUNTRY, IT HAPPENED IN
THE SOUTH THAT LIBERALS DON'T
TALK OUT LOUD ABOUT THEIR
VIEWPOINTS BECAUSE THEY DON'T
LIKE WHAT THEY GET BACK.
YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT,
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET FIRED.
WHAT GOOGLE WAS DOING WAS THEY
WERE PROTECTING WOMEN AND PEOPLE
OF COLOR IN THEIR WORKPLACE FROM
SOMEBODY PUTTING VITRIOL OUT
THERE, AND THAT IS THEIR JOB AS
AN EMPLOYER TO MAKE EVERYONE
FEEL SAFE AND SECURE AND IN A
SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT.
ELIZABETH: IF YOU'RE INTERESTED,
READ WHAT HE WROTE.