JOE BIDEN IS TAKING A DECIDINGLY
PRO-CHINA APPROACH TO THIS 2020
PRESIDENTIAL BID.
IT'S DANGEROUS FOR HIM AND
RHETORIC THAT COULD BE DANGEROUS
FOR OUR COUNTRY.
HE DOUBLED DOWN ON HIS PRO-CHINA
REFERENCES TODAY.
>> OUR WORKERS ARE LITERALLY
THREE TIMES AS PRODUCTIVE THAN
WORKERS IN ASIA.
AND THEY ARE THREE TIMES
PRODUCTIVE.
WHAT ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT?
TRISH: WHAT ARE WE WORRIED
ABOUT?
KEEP IN MIND IT COMES ON THE
HEELS OF HIS RECENT COMMENTS IN
IOWA.
>> CHINA IS GOING TO EAT OUR
LUNCH?
COME ON, MAN, THEY CAN'T EVEN
FIGURE OUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THE
FACT THEY HAVE THIS GREAT
DIVISION BETWEEN THE CHINA SEA
AND THE MONTANAS IN THE EAST --
I MEAN THE WEST.
THEY CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO
DEAL WITH THE CORRUPTION IN THE
SYSTEM.
THEY ARE NOT BAD FOLKS.
BUT GUESS WHAT?
THEY ARE NOT COMPETITION FOR US.
TRISH: TO MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE
THAT ONE AND THE ONE YOU JUST
HEARD IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
IT'S CLEAR JOE BIDEN ISITE --
ISITE -- IS EITHER MASSIVELY
NAIVE OR TRYING TO SET HIMSELF
APART.
THAT KIND OF TALK ISN'T GOING TO
FLY IN BERLIN, NEW HAMPSHIRE.
I GROUP IN THE LIVE FREE OR DIE
STATE.
AND BERLIN IS A FORMER
MANUFACTURING TOWN THAT IS NOW A
SHADOW OF ITS FORMER SELF,
THANKS IN PART TO TOO MANY
ADMINISTRATIONS WHO THOUGHT A
LITTLE LIKE JOE BIDEN.
WHILE BIND IS TRYING TO INFER
CHINA ISN'T A THREAT.
IT'S ATTEMPTING TO CONTROL THE
ROBOTICS AND AEROSPACE
TECHNOLOGY.
THEY ARE PUTTING MUSLIMS IN
CONCENTRATION CAMPS, AND ITS
ORWELLIAN YOU ARE VIALANS SYSTEM
TO VIOLATE THE PRIVACY
OF ITS CITIZENS.
IT FAILS TO RESPECT INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY RIGHTS.
AND THE WTO FORCES AMERICAN
COMPANIES TO HAND OVER THEIR
TECHNOLOGY WHEN TRYING TO ACCESS
CHAIN TODAY'S MARKETS.
CHINA HAS NOT ONE, BUT TWO WORLD
BANKS.
THEY EMPLOY AGGRESSIVE TACTICS
ALL ACROSS THE GLOBE IN A LONE
SHARK STYLE.
THAT CAUSE THESE NATIONS TO
BECOME INDEBTED TO CHINA.
WHILE CHINA TRIES TO SAY IT
DESERVES DEVELOPING NATION
STATUS AND CAN BORROW MONEY FROM
THE WORLD BANK?
IT WILL BE LENDING TO PARAGUAY.
JOE BIDEN IS CHOOSING TO IGNORE
THE CHINA THREAT.
TODAY, JUNE 4, DAY WHICH IS THE
30-YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF ONE OF
THE MOST OF TRAGIC EVENTS IN
MODERN HISTORY.
TIENANMEN SQUARE.
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
STUDENTS AND WORKERS IN CHINA
TOOK TO THE STREETS IN A QUEST
FOR FREEDOM AND DOME DEMOCRACY.
AND THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT KILLED
THEM.
THE EXACT NUMBER WE DON'T KNOW.
WE MAY NEVER KNOW BECAUSE CHINA
WON'T REVEAL THAT.
BUT THE ESTIMATES ARE BETWEEN
HUNDREDS AND SEVERAL THOUSAND.
AS FAR AS CHINA IS CONCERNED,
THIS DAY NEVER HAPPENED.
AND WHEN OUR SECRETARY OF STATE
MIKE POMPEO ADDRESSED IT IN A
TWEET, THE RESPONSE WAS GIFT
WITH THE CHINESE AMBASSADOR SAID
POMPEO'S STATEMENT INTEREST
FEARED IN CHINA'S INTERM
AFFAIRS, AND ATTACKED ITS SYSTEM
AND FOREIGN POLICY.
BECAUSE THE U.S. WANTS THE WORLD
TO REMEMBER HISTORY, EVEN IF YOU
DON'T.
IF A COUNTRY LIKE CHINA WANTS
TO GROW AND GROW UP, SHOULDN'T
IT BE WILLING TO ADMIT ITS
MISTAKES?
SHOULDN'T IT APOLOGIZE TO THE
LOST LOVES ONES.
HOW CAN WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP
WITH CHINA IF THEY WON'T AT
LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE THE PATH.
AT MID WHAT HAPPENED.
AFTER BIDEN SPEAKING IN
NEW HAMPSHIRE TRYING TO SAY
CHINA IS NO BIG DEAL, HE'S
WRONG.
IT IS.
THE MEMORY OF TIENANMEN SQUARE
IS FRESH IN MY MIND.
I WAS SITTING ALONGSIDE MY
MOTHER WATCHING TV IN A SMALL
TOWN NOT FAR FROM WHERE JOE
BIDEN IS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE TODAY
WATCHING THE LIVE TELEVISION
NEWS COVERAGE OF THAT HORRIFIC
SCENE.
WATCHING THOSE COURAGEOUS YOUNG
PEOPLE LOSE THEIR LIVES IN THEIR
QUEST FOR FREEDOM.
CHINA MAY WANT TO REWRITE
HISTORY.
BUT THE COURAGE OF THOSE BRAVE
PEOPLE WILL NEVER BE FORGOT BE.
NOT BY THE WORLD, AND NOT BY ME.
JOINING ME FORMER DEPUTY
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR UNDER
PRESIDENT REAGAN, KT
MacFARLAND.
I REMEMBER SITTING THERE WITH MY
MOM WHO WAS A CHINESE HISTORY
MAJOR.
SHE WAS EXPLAINING TO ME THE
HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY AND THE
CHALLENGES THEY WERE FACING AND
THE UPRISING OF THE STUDENTS
THERE AND WHAT IT MEANT.
THE HORROR OF THE SITUATION IS
SOMETHING THAT HAS STUCK WITH ME
TO THE DAY.
IN MANY WAYS I THINK HELPED
PROVIDE ME WITH A SENSE OF WHAT
WE AS JOURNALISTS CAN DO.
WHAT THE POWER OF LIVE
TELEVISION REALLY IS.
WHEN YOU HAD NOSE IMAGES SENT
BACK TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
CHINA CAN IGNORE IT ALL IT
WANTED.
BUT THE REST OF THE WORLD KNOWS.
DOES CHINA NEED TO AT SOME POINT
SAY OKAY, THIS IS A REALLY
HORRIBLE THING.
IT HAPPENED AND WE ARE GOING TO
GROW AND LEARN FROM OUR
MISTAKES.
IF THEY ARE GOING TO JOIN THE
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY, SHOULD
THEY BE WILLING TO DO THAT?
>> SURE, BUT THEY ARE NOT
WILLING TO JOIN THE
INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY ON THE
TERMS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS CHINA HAS
EXPLOITED OUR GENEROSITY.
20 YEARS AGO WE SAID WE ARE
GOING TO HELP THEM DEVELOP.
EVEN AT OUR OWN EXPENSE, AT THE
EXPENSE OUR OWN AMERICAN
INDUSTRIES.
BECAUSE WE THINK WHEN THEY
MODERNIZE THEY WILL HAVE AN OPEN
SOCIETY AND THEY WOULD BE
DIFFERENT THAN THE CHINA YOU
HAVE SEEN.
THE OPPOSITE HAS HAPPENED.
IT HAS GOTTEN MORE PREPRESSIVE.
CHINA IS THE FIRST TOTAL
OPPRESSIVE STATE.
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO GET ON
THE SUBWAY OR TRAVEL OR HAVE A
JOB OR LIVE IN AN APARTMENT.
THEY ARE SO CONCERNED WITH
QUESTIONING ANY DIFFICULT SENT
THAT THEY HAVE MORE THAN A
MILLION UIGHURS IN CONCENTRATION
CAMPS TO BE REEDUCATED.
TRISH: REALISTICALLY, GIVEN THE
HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION AND THE
SURVEILLANCE-STYLE STATE WITHIN
THE THEFT OF INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY, WHERE DOES IT GO?
THE WAY YOU ARE DESCRIBING IT IT
STRIKES ME THAT WE DON'T HAVE A
PATH TOWARD ANY MEANINGFUL
RELATIONSHIP IF THERE IS SUCH A
STARK DIFFERENCE IN THE CULTURE.
>> CHINA IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
THEY HAVE 5,000 YEARS OF
HISTORY.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT MODELS OF
HOW WE SEE THE WORLD.
IT'S TIME TO RECALIBRATE THAT
RELATIONSHIP.
WE CAN'T GO ON THE WAY IT IS.
FOR SOMEBODY LIKE JOE BIDEN TO
SAY NO BIG DEAL --
TRISH: IT'S SUPER NAIVETE.
>> THE CHINESE HAVE SAID THEY
HAVE EVERY INTENTION BY
MID-CENTURY TO BE LARGER IN THE
ECONOMY THAN THE UNITED STATES
AND WRITE THE RULE OF WORLD
ORDER TO FAVOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT
MATTER.
TRISH: RIGHT NOW THEY ARE TAKING
A LOT OF OUR RECEIVE.
INTERESTINGLY I HAD A VERY CIVIL
AND NICE INTERVIEW WITH THE
WOMAN WHO WORKS FOR CHINA'S NEWS
ORGANIZATION.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS,
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THEFT.
AND SHE CAME RIGHT OUT AND SAID
IT.
LET'S WATCH, K.T.
>> I DO NOT DENY THAT THERE ARE
I.P. INFRINGEMENT AND COPYRIGHT
ISSUES OR PIRACY OR EVEN THEFT
OF COMMERCIAL SECRETS.
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
HAS TO BE DEALT WITH.
TRISH: WHAT IF WE SAID SURE,
HUAWEI, COME ON IN, BUT HERE IS
THE DEAL, YOU MUST SHARE ALL
THOSE INCREDIBLE TECHNOLOGICAL
ADVANCES YOU ARE WORK ON, YOU
HAVE GOT TO SHARE THE WITH US.
>> IF YOU PAY FOR THE USE OF THE
I.P., HIGH TECHNOLOGY, I THINK
IT'S FINE, WHY NOT.
TRISH: YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING
PRETTY IMPORTANT, WHICH IS THAT
YOU SHOULD PAY FOR THE
ACQUISITION.
I THINK THAT'S FUNDAMENTALLY THE
PROBLEM.
WE CAN ALL AGREE YOU SHOULDN'T
STEEL PEOPLE'S -- STEAL PEOPLE'S
STUFF.
THERE IS COPYRIGHT ON THAT
STUFF.
THERE IS AN INTELLECTUAL
PROPERTY RIGHT AND OBERSHIP THEY
DON'T UNDERSTAND AT ALL.
SHE SORT OF DID THERE.
I THINK --
>> GREAT INTERVIEW, BY THE WAY.
TRISH: MY THANKS TO HER, BY THE
WAY.
THAT'S NOT AN EASY THING TO DO.
TO COME ON AMERICAN TV AND FOX.
BUT SHE DID DO IT.
AND WAS FORTHCOMING IN SOME
WAYS.
SPECIFICALLY I THOUGHT WHEN IT
CAME TO INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.
>> I WAS SURPRISED SHE WAS
WILLING TO ADMIT THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THE CHINESE
REFUSE TO ADMIT.
THE CHINESE AMBASSADOR SAID WE
ARE NOT TAKE YOUR TECHNOLOGY.
BUT THE FACT IS THEY ARE.
IT'S NOT JUST AN ECONOMIC
RELATIONSHIP.
IT'S MILITARY.
THE CHINESE HAVE CLAIMED THE
SOUTH CHINA SEA.
THE WORLD'S LARGEST COMMERCIAL
MAYOR TIME TRADING ROUTE.
IN 10 YEARS THEY WILL DECIDE
WHETHER WE CAN SAIL THROUGH IT
WITH OUR GOODS AND SERVICES AS
WELL.
THAT'S CHINESE SPAWNGSISM.
TRISH: PEOPLE MAY NOT LIKE THAT
WE HAVE SO MANY SHIPS IN THE
SOUTH CHINA SEA.
THE LOW MORTGAGE RATE IS ON THAT
ABILITY TO HAVE THAT INFLUENCE
AND KEEP THE DOLLAR AS THE
WORLD'S CURRENCY.
>> THEIR PLAN IS WITHIN 10 YEARS
WE ARE PUSHED BACK TO HAWAII SO
WE ARE OUT OF THE WESTERN
PACIFIC, AND WITHIN 20-30 YEARS