DURING A RECENT SEGMENT ON HLN,
ONE OF ITS HOSTS WANTED TO QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT
EDWARD SNOWDEN SHOULD BE ON TWITTER.
THIS IS THE ANCHOR, JAZMIN, WHO IS ARMENIAN, POSSIBLY.
SHE WAS DISCUSSING A TWEET BY GEORGE PATAKI, WHICH SAID THAT TWITTER
IS A GREAT AMERICAN COMPANY THAT SHOULD NOT GIVE PLATFORM TO
TERRORISTS OR TRAITORS.
SHUTDOWN @SNOWDEN TODAY.
JAZMIN WANTED TO BRING ON SOMEONE WITH
A COUNTERPOINT, AND AS A RESULT, THE GUEST BOOKER FOR HER PROGRAM
DECIDED TO HAVE A WELL-KNOWN TWEETER ON HER SHOW.
TO TEST
THE GOVERNMENT'S ARGUMENT, THEY DECIDED TO RUN IT BY
PROMINENT TWITTER USER JOHN HENDREN.
UNFORTUNATELY, HER
STAFF DID NOT BOOK JOHN HENDREN THE JOURNALIST, BUT
RATHER JOHN HENDREN, THE COMEDIAN WITH THE @FART HANDLE ON TWITTER, HE IS A
COMEDIAN AND A TROLL.
THE INTERVIEW STARTED OFF PRETTY GREAT, TAKE A LOOK.
WHY DO YOU THINK SNOWDEN IS ANY DIFFERENT, ACCORDING TO PATAKI?
HE'S A HERO, HE IS DOING WHAT ANY ONE OF US SHOULD HAVE
DONE IN THAT SITUATION.
HE HAS BEEN ISOLATED FOR SO LONG, AND HE'S GOT VALID
THINGS TO SAY.
WE SHOULD LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS.
SOME PEOPLE SAY HE ISN'T A HERO.
THEY ARE WRONG, HE IS DOING THE MOST PATRIOTIC POSSIBLE THING.
THAT SEEMS LIKE IT IS GOING PRETTY WELL, ESPECIALLY
SINCE THEY BOOKED THE WRONG PERSON.
BUT THEN THINGS DEVOLVE A LITTLE BIT.
TAKE A LOOK.
THERE IS CLASSIFIED INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT
WAS RELEASED THAT COULD HAVE HARMED PEOPLE.
DO YOU THINK HIS ACTIONS WERE WORTH THAT RISK?
TO SAY THAT HE COULD NOT HARM SOMEBODY WITH WHAT HE DID,
LIKE, HE COULD.
ABSOLUTELY HE COULD HAVE.
BUT I THINK TO CAST HIM OUT, TO MAKE HIM INVALID IN
SOCIETY, SIMPLY ñ SIMPLY BECAUSE HE HAS SCISSORS FOR HANDS?
THAT IS JUST STRANGE.
PEOPLE DID NOT GET SCARED UNTIL WE STARTED SCULPTING SHRUBS
INTO DINOSAUR SHAPES, OR WHATNOT.
NOW HE IS LIVING IN RUSSIA, SOME PEOPLE SAY IT IS
HYPOCRITICAL THAT HE HAS ASYLUM
IN RUSSIA.
RUSSIA HAS A LOT OF HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS.
YEAH, CASTING HIM OUT IS JUST COMPLETELY WRONG.
WE ARE
TREATING HIM LIKE AN ANIMAL.
LIKE SOMEBODY WHO SHOULD BE
QUARANTINED AND PUT AWAY.
JUST BECAUSE HE WAS CREATED ON TOP OF
A MOUNTAIN BY VINCENT PRICE, AND
IS INCOMPLETE, WITH SCISSORS FOR HANDS AND NO HEART, HE
IS A COMPLETE HERO TO ME.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CHOICE THAT HE MADE TO LIVE IN A
COUNTRY LIKE RUSSIA?
WHERE ELSE IS HE GOING TO GO?
WE GOT SCARED WHEN HE POKED A HOLE IN A WATER BED WITH
HIS SCISSORHANDS, THAT WAS UNREASONABLE OF US.
I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US YOUR OPINION, THANK YOU.
I HAD NOT SEEN THAT BEFORE.
THAT WAS THE BEST SEGMENT I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY WHOLE LIFE.
I COULD NOT LOOK AT IT.
HIS TWITTER HANDLE IS @FART.
SOMEBODY TYPED IT AND PUT IT ON TV.
OH MY GOD, THERE IS NOBODY LISTENING?
NOBODY IN THE CONTROL ROOM IS LISTENING TO THIS?
THE REPORTER IS NOT LISTENING.
GRANTED THOUGH, IT
IS THE KIND OF CONVERSATION YOU WOULD HAVE ON THAT SET.
SHE IS
NOT DELIVERING NEWS, SHE IS IN THE BREAK ROOM.
I FEEL BAD FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH THAT, EXCEPT
JOHN HENDREN.
HE HAD A GOOD DAY.
HE DID HAVE A GOOD DAY.
THAT WAS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF TROLLING
I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO
HARD, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO HARD ñ
ON THE REPORTER?
WHY?
WHY NOT?
YOU'RE RIGHT, THE REPORTER WAS NOT LISTENING TO HIS ANSWERS.
SHE KEPT ASKING HIM QUESTIONS.
PART OF THE REASON I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO HARD ON HER IS
THAT I KNOW HOW A LOT OF THESE TELEVISION NEWS SHOWS WORK.
AS THE ANCHOR, YOU GO IN AND YOU HAVE PRODUCERS WHO
LITERALLY HAND YOU THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU NEED TO ASK.
SO WHEN YOU ARE NOT FORCED TO THINK FOR YOURSELF, THEN
YOU JUST ASK THE QUESTIONS AND YOU MOVE ALONG.
THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
I HAVE DONE A NUMBER OF LIVE INTERVIEWS IN MY LIFE, AND YES,
THERE WILL BE A SECOND PRODUCER, AND WHEN I DID IT I NEVER HAD
PEOPLE WRITE ME QUESTIONS.
PARTLY THAT IS
BECAUSE OF PLACES I WORKED AT, THERE WASN'T STAFF WRITERS.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE AWARE.
YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE PERSON IS
SAYING, BECAUSE THEY MIGHT SAY
SOMETHING WHERE YOU NEED TO GO OFF SCRIPT AND FOLLOW-UP DOT IN
GENERAL, THOUGH, JUST TO LEAVE THESE PEOPLE OUT, A SEGMENT,
AGAIN, WHAT YOU GET SOMEBODY FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
NONE OF IT
IS INTERESTING.
NONE OF IT IS FURTHERING THE DIALOGUE, NONE OF
IT IS BRINGING US CLOSER TO
TRUTH OR UNDERSTANDING.
YOUR GOAL SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE TRUTH, AND HERE IS A MOMENT
WHERE A WOMAN WHO MIGHT BE GOOD AT HER JOB, I DON'T KNOW, I
DON'T KNOW HER, BUT IT WAS A TERRIBLY EMBARRASSING MOMENT.
AND SHE APPEARED NOT TO BE LISTENING WHEN HE
DESCRIBED, WHAT, FOUR TIMES?
EDWARD SCISSORHANDS.
MY FAVORITE TIME WAS WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT POKING A HOLE
IN THE WATER BED.
HE SAID THE NAME, IN CASE THEY DIDN'T GET IT.
HE SAID
THAT VINCENT PRICE CREATED HIM ON A TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN.
I'M
TALKING ABOUT EDWARD
SCISSORHANDS, JUST FYI.
THAT WAS A TOUGH MOMENT.
THAT WAS HARD TO WATCH.
THAT IS HARD FOR ME TO WATCH.
I HAVE MADE MISTAKES ON THE AIR ñ
EVERYONE DOES.
IN TERMS OF THE GUEST BOOKER, YOU SHOULD
HAVE PAID MORE ATTENTION TO THE
HANDLE @FART, AND WHEN YOU SUPERIMPOSED IT FOR THE SEGMENT
THAT SHOULD HAVE RAISED A FEW RED FLAGS.
BUT SOMETIMES YOU
MAKE MISTAKES, SOMETIMES YOUR WORKLOAD IS HEAVY AND YOU DON'T
KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, MISTAKES HAPPEN AND I GET IT,
BUT I THINK THE WORST PART WAS
THAT AS THE TROLLING WAS OCCURRING, THE SERIOUS QUESTIONS
KEPT COMING IN.
HONESTLY, I
FEEL TERRIBLE FOR HER.
THIS VIDEO IS OUT THERE.
IF SHE HAD SOMEHOW TURNED IT AROUND AND DONE SOMETHING,
SHE WOULD NOT HAVE COME OUT LOOKING SO BAD.
BECAUSE EVERY OTHER INTERVIEW SHE HAS DONE, YOU REALIZE
SHE WAS NOT LISTENING TO ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE EITHER.
I FALL INTO IT TOO.
THERE IS AN EFFORT TO SOUND SMART INSTEAD
OF BEING SMART, AND AN EFFORT TO SOUND LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE
TALKING ABOUT.
THERE IS NEVER A MOMENT ON TELEVISION WHERE, IF
YOU SAY, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, I'M
GOING TO LOOK INTO IT.
IF YOU DON'T TALK, THEY WILL GO TO BREAK.
AND THEN YOU WILL GO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND
YOU WILL BE IN TROUBLE.
DO YOU AGREE THAT WHEN YOU ARE WITH MOST PEOPLE WHO DO THE
NEWS, THERE IS A RESISTANCE TO JUST CONFESSING WHEN YOU DON'T
KNOW SOMETHING.
JUST ADMIT IT.
I AM LIKE THAT TOO, I WILL BE
TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING AND I WON'T KNOW A PARTICULAR DETAIL
THAT IS ASKED OF ME, AND I WOULD
FEEL PRESSURED TO, NOT MAKE SOMETHING UP, BUT FIND SOMETHING
TO ANSWER THE QUESTION
APPROPRIATELY.
THEN I REALIZED, NO, YOU USUALLY GIVE PEOPLE
MISINFORMATION WHEN YOU DO THAT.