>>> BLOOMBERG NEWS FIRST WITH
THE HEAD SNAPPING NEWS THAT
HACKER GROUPS IN THE RUSSIAN
GOVERNMENT THIS WEEKEND BREACHED
THE COMPUTER SYSTEMS OF
REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE.
NBC NEWS NOT INDEPENDENTLY
CONFIRMED THE STORY.
THE RNC DOES SAY THAT A THIRD
PARTY I.T. PROVIDER HAD BEEN
BREACH JD DENYING THEIR DATA IS
COMPROMISED.
THAT SAID TONIGHT "THE NEW YORK
TIMES" APPEARS TO BE MATCHING THE BLOOMBERG REPORTING SAYING
THE BLOOMBERG REPORTING SAYING
THAT THE CULPRIT IS RUSSIAS SVR
INTELLIGENCE AGENCY.
IF THOSE EARLY INDICATIONS ARE
RIGHT AND THIS IS RUSSIAN
SECURITY SERVICES HACKING THE
COMPUTER SYSTEMS TIED TO THE
REPUBLICAN NATIONAL PARTY,
THATS A BIG, HAIRY DEAL.
RIGHT?
THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT ATTACKING
NATIONAL PARTIES?
THREE WEEKS AFTER BIDEN AND
PUTIN MET AND SUPPOSEDLY HAD A
BIG CONFRONTATION OVER THIS KIND
OF THING?
THE REPORTED ATTACK ON THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY HIT ABOUT THE
SAME TIME THAT A RUSSIAN BASED
ORGANIZED CRIME GROUP CALLED
REVIL CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY FOR
A RANSOMWARE ATTACK ON A U.S.
BASE TECH FIRM, DEMANDING $70
MILLION AS RANSOM IN THAT ATTACK
AND SHUT DOWN JBS LAST MONTH YOU
MIGHT REMEMBER BUT REVIL IS
ATTACKING THE HIGH PROFILE
TARGETS ON U.S. SOIL FOR MORE
THAN A YEAR HITTING A LAY FIRNL
WORKING WITH CELEBRITIES AND BIG
CORPORATIONS LIKE APPLE,
SCHOOLS, GREEN ENERGY COMPANIES.
THE ATTACKS WITH OTHER RUSSIAN
CRIMINAL GROUPS LED TO THE
CONFRONTATION BETWEEN PRESIDENT
BIDEN AND VLADIMIR PUTIN IN THAT
MEETING BIDEN SAYS HE TOLD PUTIN
THAT BECAUSE THE CRIMINAL
ATTACKS WERE ORIGINATING ON
RUSSIAN SOIL THAT THE CRIMINAL
GROUPS WERE EFFECTIVELY
OPERATING WITH IMPUNITY FROM
RUSSIA AND THAT IF THE U.S.
DETERMINES THAT ATTACKS LIKE
THESE CONTINUE TO HAPPEN WE
WOULD RESPOND.
AGAIN THIS WEEKEND BEFORE THIS
REVIL GROUP TOOK RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THIS LATEST BIG CYBER
ATTACK, THE RANSOMWARE ATTACK,
PRESIDENT BIDEN DOWNED DOWN
SAYING IF THE ATTACKS ARE
DETERMINED TO BE RUSSIA HE TOLD
PUTIN WE WOULD RESPOND.
WHAT ABOUT NOW?
WHAT IF ITS NOT JUST ORGANIZED
RUSSIAN CRIMINAL GROUPS GIVING
PUTIN SOME DENIABILITY BUT IF
THE REPORTING IS THAT ITS
RUSSIAN SECURITY SECRET SERVICES
TARGETING U.S. POLITICAL
ENTITIES AGAIN HOW DO WE RESPOND
NOW?
WHAT SHOULD WE EXPECT?
JOINING US NOW IS "THE NEW YORK
TIMES" REPORTER NICOLE PAROLV.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME
TONIGHT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> IT DOES FEEL LIKE THESE ARE
SORT OF -- WELL, I DONT KNOW IF
THEYRE INDIA OR PARALLEL
ATTACKS.
THE TIMING DOES FEEL SUSPICIOUS
GIVEN THAT REVIL APPEARS TO
OPERATE FROM RUSSIA AND THE RNC
APPEARS TO BE FROM RUSSIAN
GOVERNMENT HACKERS.
DO YOU THINK ITS RIGHT TO LOOK
AT THEM AS POTENTIALLY LINKED?
>> I DONT KNOW IF ITS LIRKED
YET.
THE THINK ABOUT REVIL IS THE
RANSOMWARE ATTACKS NEVER STOPS
BUT GETTING WORSE.
I THINK WE ARE BEING TESTED.
BIDEN LAID OUT A BIG RED LINE IN
THE CAMPAIGN AND SAID HE WAS
PUTTING PUTIN ON NOTICE TO NOT
TOLERATE ANY FORTUNATELY OF
ELECTION INTERFERENCE AND THAT
APPEARS TO BE SOMETHING ALONG
THE LINES OF WHAT WE ARE SEEING
WITH THE BREACH OF A CONTRACTOR
USED BY THE RNC.
IN TERMS OF THE RANSOMWARE THEY
JUST HAVE THIS SUMMIT AS YOU
JUST DESCRIBED WHERE RANSOMWARE
WAS AT THE TO OF THE AGENDA AND
BIDEN SAID HERES A LIST OF 16
CRITICAL SECTORS IF YOU HIT WITH
A DISRUPTIVE ATTACK WE WILL
RESPOND.
OVER THE FOURTH OF JULY WEEKEND
WE SAW A COMPANY IN A CRITICAL
SECTOR WHIT RANSOMWARE IN A
SUPPLY CHAIN ATTACK WHERE NOT
ONLY WERE THE CUSTOMERS HIT BUT
THE CUSTOMERS CUSTOMERS WERE
HIT.
IN SWEDEN A GROCERY CHAIN HAD TO
SHUT DOWN 800 STORE JUST THE
RAILWAYS AFFECTED.
THE PHARMACIES AFFECTED.
THIS IS THE KIND OF ATTACK THAT
BIDEN CALLED OUT IN THAT SUMMIT
A FEW WEEKS AGO.
>> WHAT IS THE GENERAL
UNDERSTANDING IN THE FIELD ABOUT
WHAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT MEANS
WHEN IT SAYS WE WILL RESPOND?
WHAT IS THE -- WHAT IS IN THE
ARSENAL?
WHAT IS ACTUALLY DEPLOYIBLE?
IM NOT UP ENOUGH ON WHAT CYBER
OFFENSE LOOKS LIKE TO KNOW WHAT
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT MIGHT DO IF
IN FACT BIDEN DECIDES TO BACK UP
HIS WORDS WITH ACTION.
>> UNTIL NOW, WE HAVE RESPONDED
LARMGLY WITH SABLGSS AND
INDICTMENTS AND NEVER REALLY
GETS US ANYWHERE BECAUSE ITS
NOT A DETERRENT.
SO THE QUESTION IS WHATS NEXT?
AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT U.S.
SYSTEMS ARE STILL SO VULNERABLE
THAT EVERY TIME WE TRY TO
PREPARE SOME KIND OF RIESPONSE
FOR A RUSSIAN ATTACK WE ARE
ALWAYS COMING AT THIS FROM A
POSITION OF BUT WHAT WILL
VLADIMIR PUTIN DO?
BECAUSE WE ARE STILL SO
VULNERABLE HERE.
AND SO THAT REALLY HAMSTRINGS
OUR RESPONSE BUT SOME OPTIONS
ARE THINGS LIKE WHY DONT WE
TAKE OUT THE LIGHTS IN RUSSIA?
THATS -- THERES BEEN A SHORT
OF WAR CONFLICT BETWEEN THE U.S.
AND RUSSIA OVER THE YEARS.
MY COLLEAGUE DAVID SANGER AND I
BROKE THE STORY THAT CYBER
COMMAND WAS HACKING IN TO SAY WE
ARE HERE.
IF YOU TURN OFF THE LIGHTS OR DO
SOMETHING TO THE UNITED STATES
WELL TURN YOUR LIGHTS OFF, TOO.
SOME OF THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT
HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED IS A LEAK OF
PUTINS FINANCIALS OR A LEAK OF
SOME KIND TO EXPOSE THE KIND OF
CORRUPTION THAT PUTIN FEARS WITH
NAFNY AND THE GOAL IS TO CREATE
3,000 NAVALNYS.
WE HAVE PULLED OFF A SERIES OF
ATTACKS, THINGS LIKE WE HAVE
TAKEN OUT A RANSOMWARE GROUPS
INFRASTRUCTURE AHEAD OF THE
ELECTION LAST YEAR.
OR WE ACTUALLY HACKED INTO THE
COMPUTERS OF THE INTERNET
RESEARCH AGENCY WHICH IS WHERE
RUSSIAS TROLLS SENDING OUT MESS
ANDS.
I DONT KNOW WHAT THE MESSAGES
SAID BUT SOMETHING LIKE WE KNOW
WHO YOU ARE AND IF YOU MEDDLE
WITH THE UPCOMING ELECTION, THE
2018 MIDTERMS, WELL COME FOR
YOU.
SO I THINK THERE IS A WORKING
GROUCH
GROUP AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT
WITH THE U.S. AND 19 OTHER
COUNTRIES THAT ARE COMING UP
WITH A MENU OF CONSEQUENCES TO
FIGURE OUT WHERE IS THE
THRESHOLD FOR THESE ATTACKS AND