>>> SO, WILLIE, IN THE FIRST BLOCK, YOU MADE A LITTLE BIT FOR
MILES DAVIS.
MILES DAVIS. >> BEAN TOWN.
>> WE ALL NOTED THAT.
>> ARI KNOWS --
>> HOW DOES HE KEEP DOING THAT?
>> -- WE HAVE THE SHOW FROM 6:00
TO 9:00.
TO 9:00. ALL THE MORE DISTURBING.
IT’S LIKE 3:10 OUT THERE.
HE’S WORKING OUT AT 3:00 IN THE
MORNING AND IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS
WORKOUTS, HE’S CALLING US UP.
BUT THIS WAS JUST LIKE THE OLD
KILLER BEES SCARE.
REMEMBER THEY KEPT TELLING US
THE KILLER BEES WERE COMING FROM
CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA AND
THEY WERE GOING TO EAT US ALIVE.
IT NEVER CAME TO FRUITION.
BUT THERE WERE THE KILLER BATS
LAST NIGHT.
LAST NIGHT. THE RED SOX.
HOW ABOUT THAT SEGUE.
THE RED SOX, IT PRETTY GOOD.
>> I STAYED UP UNTIL 5-4 AND
THEN EDUARDO NUNES PUT IT AWAY
WITH A PINCH-HIT THREE-RUN HOME
RUN.
RUN. WE’RE HAPPY WITH YOU AND YOUR
WORLD SERIES EFFORTS.
THE OTHER ANALOGY, THE KILLER
BEES ANALOGY WOULD BE THE Y2K,
REMEMBER, THE GREAT THREAT THAT
WAS GOING TO COME AND WIPE OUT
THE CIVILIZATION.
THE CIVILIZATION. THE CARAVAN IS SORT OF THE Y2K
OF 2018.
OF 2018. >> THERE WAS AN ALZHEIMER’S
EVENT LAST NIGHT.
>> YEAH, I WAS.
THERE ARE 6 MILLION PEOPLE IN
THIS COUNTRY THAT LIVE WITH
THAT.
THAT. IT’S A DEVASTATING DISEASE, NOT
ONLY TO THE PERSON WHO HAS IT
BUT TO THE FAMILY WHO CARES FOR
THEM.
THEM. I’M ALWAYS HAPPY TO LEND A SMALL
VOICE A NIGHT OR TWO AND HELP
THEM RAISE SOME MONEY FOR THAT.
>> SANDRA DAY O’CONNOR, EVAN
THOMAS WROTE HER MOTHER HAD IT,
HER HUSBAND HAD IT.
SHE GOT OFF THE COURT TO TAKE
CARE OF HIM.
HER SISTER HAD IT.
THERE’S A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT
NEEDS TO BE DONE STILL.
WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO IN THAT
BATTLE.
BATTLE. IT DOES IMPACT FAMILIES.
>> AND SANDRA DAY O’CONNOR LEFT
THE COURT IN 2005 TO BE WITH HER
HUSBAND WHO HAS ALZHEIMER’S.
BUT SHE FOUGHT THAT ENTIRE TIME
UNTIL NOW.
UNTIL NOW. SHE SAID SHE’S GOING TO STEP OUT
OF PUBLIC LIFE.
BUT SHE’S BEEN FIGHTING FOR A
DOZEN YEARS NOW TO GET FUNDING.
AND IT DOES WORK.
DAVID HYDE PIERCE HAS BEEN
FIGHTING FOR YEARS.
HE SAID I REMEMBER THE FIRST
TIME WE WENT UP, WE WERE ASKING
FOR $1 MILLION.
THIS YEAR THE FUNDING FOR
ALZHEIMER’S FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT WILL BE $2.3 BILLION.
THERE IS PROGRESS BEING MADE
THERE.
THERE. >>> LET’S TALK SOME POLITICS.
WE HAVE STEVE KORNACKI AT THE
TABLE, BRIAN KEMP WHO IS ALSO
THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR
GOVERNOR HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF
VOTER SUPPRESSION FOR PUTTING
THE REGISTRATIONS OF MORE THAN
53,000 VOTERS ON HOLD WITH HIS
OFFICE.
OFFICE. NEARLY 70% OF THEM BLACK.
IN A STATE WHERE
AFRICAN-AMERICANS MAKE UP ONLY
32% OF THE POPULATION.
NOW, ROLLING STONE HAS PUBLISHED
AUDIO OF KEMP AT A PRIVATE EVENT
EXPRESSING CONCERNS.
EXPRESSING CONCERNS. >> AS WORRIED AS WE WERE GOING
INTO THE START OF EARLY VOTING
WAS LITERALLY TENS OF MILLIONS
OF DOLLARS THAT THEY ARE PUTTING
BEHIND THE GET OUT AND VOTE
EFFORT FOR THEIR BASE, THEY HAVE
AN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF THAT
WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT
CONTINUES TO CONCERN US,
ESPECIALLY IF EVERYBODY USES AND
EXERCISES THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE
WHICH THEY ABSOLUTELY CAN AND
MAILS THOSE BALLOTS IN.
>> IN A DEBATE LAST NIGHT, KEMP
SAID HE WILL NOT RECUSE HIMSELF
AS THE RACE GOES TO A RECOUNT.
>> DO YOU BELIEVE YOU CAN
OVERSEE THE ELECTIONS WHILE
BEING THE STATE’S GOVERNOR?
WOULD YOU RECUSE YOURSELF IF A
RECOUNT IS NECESSARY?
>> I TOOK AN OATH OF OFFICE TO
SERVE AS SECRETARY OF STATE AND
THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT I’M GOING TO
CONTINUE TO DO.
>> UNDER SECRETARY KEMP, MORE
PEOPLE HAVE LOST THE RIGHT TO
VOTE IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA.
THEY’VE BEEN PURGED, THEY’VE
BEEN SUPPRESSED AND THEY’VE BEEN
SCARED.
SCARED. THIS IS A MAN WHO HAD SOMEONE
ARRESTED FOR HELPING HER BLIND
FATHER CAST A BALLOT.
HE RAISED OFFICES OF
ORGANIZATIONS TO STOP THEM FROM
REGISTERING VOTERS.
REGISTERING VOTERS. THAT TYPE OF VOTER SUPPRESSION
FEEDS THE NARRATIVE.
IT’S NOT ONLY ABOUT BLOCKING THE
VOTE.
VOTE. IT’S ALSO ABOUT CREATING AN
ATMOSPHERE OF FEAR, MAKING
PEOPLE WORRY THEIR VOTES WON’T
COUNT.
COUNT. >> STEVE KORNACKI JOINS US NOW
ALONG WITH JEREMY PETERS.
GUYS, GOOD MORNING.
STEVE, HOW CAN KEMP NOT RECUSE
HIMSELF IF THIS GOES TO A
RECOUNT?
RECOUNT? >> THE ARGUMENT HE’LL MAKE IS
THERE IS SORT OF AN AUTOMATIC
TRIGGER FOR A RECOUNT.
IF THAT HAPPENS, THE SECRETARY
OF STATE’S OFFICE, HE WOULD SAY
WE SAW CHRIS KOBACH TRYING TO
MAKE THIS ARGUMENT EARLIER ON,
THE SECRETARY OF STATE’S OFFICE
IS NOT NEARLY AS INVOLVED IN
THAT.
THAT. IT’S MORE OF A LOCAL MATTER.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS ISSUE IS
OVERTAKING THIS RACE.
THE OTHER THING, THOUGH, THAT
COMES TO MIND WHEN YOU PUT THAT
POLL UP ON THE SCREEN, 48-48,
THE OTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND
IS GEORGIA IS UNIQUE AMONG
STATES IN THAT THEY’VE GOT THIS
GENERAL ELECTION BETWEEN A
DEMOCRATIC AND A REPUBLICAN
NOMINEE, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A
RUNOFF PROVISION IN GEORGIA.
THERE WAS A LIBERTARIAN
CANDIDATE AT THAT DEBATE LAST
NIGHT.
NIGHT. IF THAT CANDIDATE GETS 3% OR 4%
OF THE VOTES, THIS 24I7K HEADS
TO A RUNOFF.
IN THE MODERN HISTORY OF THE
RUNOFFS IN GEORGIA, AND THIS
WOULD BE TESTED THIS YEAR, IS
SORT OF A SURGE DEMOCRATIC
PARTICIPATION IN THE NOVEMBER
GENERAL ELECTION HAS DROPPED
OFF.
OFF. ARE REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE WELL
IN THEIR RUNOFF ELECTIONS.
BILL CLINTON CARRIED THE STATE
OF GEORGIA, DEFEATED GEORGE H.W.
BUSH, THE SENATE RACE WENT TO A
RUNOFF, THE REPUBLICAN WON THE
SENATE RACE.
SENATE RACE. BARACK OBAMA GOT WITHIN TWO
POINTS IN 2008 IN GEORGIA.
THEY SENATE RACE WENT TO A RUN I
CAN’T HAVE.
CAN’T HAVE. SO THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN
KEYING ALL THEIR EFFORTS TO THE
GENERAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.
IF THIS THING KICKS OVER TO A
REGIONOFF, DEMOCRATS NEED TO TRY
AND REPLICATE THAT A FEW WEEKS
LATER.
LATER. >> THIS IS WHAT MAKES DEMP SO
DANGEROUS, RIGHT?
DANGEROUS, RIGHT? THAT IS TO SAY HE IS DEPLOYING
ALMOST ALL THE METHODS AT ONCE
AS OPPOSED TO INDIVIDUAL
METHODS, WHETHER IT’S VOTER I.D.
LAWS, A RANGE OF THINGS.
HOW CAN HE, IN SOME WAYS, MAKE
THE ARGUMENT THAT HE SHOULD,
SHALL WE SAY, PRESIDE OVER THIS
ELECTION, GIVEN THAT KIND OF
SHADOW?
SHADOW? IT WOULD SEEM TO TEST THE SHADOW
OF ILL LEGITIMACY EVEN IF HE
WINS.
WINS. >> THAT’S THE QUESTION, I THINK,
POLITICALLY.
POLITICALLY. WHAT EFFECT IS THIS GOING TO
HAVE?
HAVE? IS THERE GOING TO THE TAKE ANY
UNDECIDER SWING VOTES IN THE
STATE AND MOVE THIS AGAINST HIM?
IS THIS GOING TO HAVE THE
EFFECT, AS STACEY ABRAHAMS SAID
IN THAT CLIP YOU JUST PLAYED,
THAT NUMBER, 53,000, THOSE FOLKS
CAN SHOW UP AT THE POLLS AND
PROVIDE AN I.D., THEY CAN THEN
CAST A BALLOT.
BUT THE QUESTION DEMOCRATS ARE
RAISING IS IS THIS GOING TO HAVE
THE EFFECT OF MAKING THOSE
VOTERS THINK I’M NOT SUPPOSED
TO, IT’S BETTER IF I DON’T.
DOES IT HAVE THAT KIND OF
EFFECT, TOO?
EFFECT, TOO? >> JEREMY PETERS, WE ALL LEARN
TO GET CYNICAL ABOUT THINGS LIKE
THIS.
THIS. BUT EVEN IN THESE CYNICAL DAYS,
IT’S STAGGERING TO HEAR AS
SECRETARY OF STATE WHO IS IN
CHARGE OF VOTING, GETTING CAUGHT
ON AN OPEN MIKE SAYING WE’RE IN
BIG TROUBLE IF PEOPLE GO OUT AND
EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE.
THAT, I MUST ADMIT, THAT’S A NEW
ONE IN TERMS OF SHEER PURE
CYNICISM COMING FROM THE PERSON
WHO IS IN CHARGE OF VOTING FOR A
STATE.
STATE. >> THAT’S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE IS
THIS VENEER THAT A LOT OF
REPUBLICANS LIKE TO PUT OVER
THIS DEBATE, THAT THIS IS ALL
ABOUT ELECTION INTEGRITY AND THE
NEED TO ENSURE THAT THERE ISN’T
FRAUDULENT VOTING OCCURRING EVEN
THOUGH FRAUGHT EWE LENT VOTING
ISN’T A MYTH.
SO WHAT YOU HAVE GOING ON HERE
IS A VERY TR ARE UMPIAN
ARGUMENT.
ARGUMENT. AND I THINK IT’S A STRUGGLE THAT
YOU’VE SEEN ACROSS THE COUNTRY
FROM NORTH CAROLINA
TO PENNSYLVANIA WHERE OOEFDYOU’V
THESE VOTING LEGISLATURES
GERRYMANDER DISTRICTS IN A WAY
TO PRESERVE A MAJORITY WHEN THEY
ARE, IN FACT, SLIPPING CLOSER
AND CLOSER TO MINORITY STATUS.
SO I AM SURPRISED IT HASN’T
GOTTEN WORSE THAN THIS.
>> AND BRIAN KEMP CALLED VOTER
SUPPRESSION A FARSE.