SECRETARY OF STATE WOULD CALL ON
AN INVESTIGATION TO BE LAUNCHED
INTO THAT PHONE CALL.
TO HOUSE DEMOCRATS FOR THEIR
PART ARE CALLING SPECIFICALLY
FOR THE FBI DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER
WRAY TO OPEN UP A CRIMINAL PROBE
INTO PRESIDENT TRUMPS SATURDAY
CALL TO GEORGIAS SECRETARY OF
STATE.
HERES MORE OF WHAT THE
PRESIDENT SAID ON THAT CALL.
>> SO, LOOK, ALL I WANT TO DO IS
THIS.
I JUST WANT TO FIND 11,780 VOTES
VOTESVOTES
VOTES.
THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH
SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT
YOUVE RECALCULATED.
>> ALL RIGHT.
GIVEN WHAT WE JUST HEARD OUT OF
THAT NEWS CONFERENCE, WE ARE NOW
JOINED BY ONE OF THE HOUSE
DEMOCRATS WHO SENT THAT LETTER,
CALIFORNIA CONGRESSMAN TED LIU.
HES A MEMBER OF THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE.
CONGRESSMAN, GREAT TO HAVE YOU
WITH US.
LETS JUST REACT, IF WE CAN, FOR
A MOMENT TO THE BREAKING NEWS
THAT WE HEARD THERE.
COMING OUT OF GEORGIA.
REALLY THAT POINT-BY-POINT
REBUKE OF THE PRESIDENT AND THE
CLAIMS HE HAS BEEN MAKING.
BUT ALSO MORE SPECIFICALLY TO
WHAT YOU CALLED FOR TODAY, AN
INVESTIGATION FROM THE FBI INTO
THIS.
ANY REACTION TO WHAT YOU HEARD
THERE FROM GEORGIA ELECTION
OFFICIAL, GABRIEL STERLING?
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.
THAT WAS A STUNNING TAKEDOWN OF
ALL THE BIZARRE CONSPIRACY
THEORIES THAT DONALD TRUMP AND
HIS ENABLERS HAVE PUT FORWARD
AND REALLY SHOWS YOU HOW OUT OF
TOUCH DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN.
ITS NOT JUST OUT OF TOUCH.
DONALD TRUMP HAS NOW BEEN
COMMITTING CRIMES.
HES THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN
THE WORLD AND THREATENING THE
GEORGIA SECRETARY OF STATE TO
ESSENTIALLY COMMIT ELECTION
FRAUD.
>> WERE YOU AT ALL SURPRISED THE
OFFICE -- HE HAD NOT YET
CONFIRMED OR SAID HE WAS NOT
AWARE THERE, GABRIEL STERLING,
OF WHETHER OR NOT THE OFFICE OF
THE SECRETARY OF STATE WOULD OPEN AN INVESTIGATION, CALL ON
OPEN AN INVESTIGATION, CALL ON
THE FULTON COUNTY D.A., OR BA GA
GEORGIA ATTORNEY GENERAL ON THAT
FRONT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY NEWS ON WHAT YOU
SPECIFICALLY CALLED FOR FROM THE
FBI TODAY?
>> I DONT HAVE ANY VIEWS ON
GEORGIA ELECTION OFFICIALS
FRONT. MR. STERLING MIGHT NOT BE THE
PERSON THATS POSITIONED TO
REFER SUCH A CASE TO THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES.
WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THE
GEORGIA STATE CODE IS VERY
CLEAR.
IT IS A CRIME TO SOLICIT
ELECTION FRAUD AND THATS WHAT
DONALD TRUMP DID OVER AND OVER
AGAIN ON HIS ONE-HOUR PHONE CALL
WITH THE GEORGIA SECRETARY OF
STATE.
>> YEAH, SO TELL US A LITTLE BIT
MORE ABOUT WHY YOU AND
CONGRESSWOMAN KATHLEEN RICE OF
NEW YORK DECIDED TO REFER THIS
TO FBI DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER
WRAY.
HAVE YOU HAD ANY RESPONSE SO FAR
FROM THE FBI YOU CAN SHARE WITH
US?
>> SURE.
CONGRESSWOMAN RICE AND I ARE
BOTH FORMER PROSECUTORS.
WHEN WE HEARD THAT PHONE CALL IT
WAS VERY CLEAR TO US CRIMES HAD
BEEN COMMITTED ON THAT CALL,
SPECIFICALLY UNDER 52 US
C-SECTION 2511, YOU CANNOT
KNOWINGLY AND WILLINGLY
ESSENTIALLY ATTEMPT ELECTION
FRAUD.
THATS WHAT DONALD TRUMP DID
WHEN HE TOLD THE GEORGIA
ELECTIONS TO FIND 11,708 VOTES.
THATS A VERY SPECIFIC NUMBER.
HE TOLD THE GEORGIA SECRETARY OF
STATE TO RECALCULATE THE VOTES
AND BOTH OF THOSE STATEMENTS
WOULD CONSTITUTE AN ATTEMPT AT
ELECTION FRAUT.
WE ONLY SENT A LETTER THIS
MORNING.
SO THE FBI DOES TAKE SOME TIME
TO INVESTIGATE.
SO WE DONT EXPECT A RESPONSE
IMMEDIATELY.
>> LET ME ASK YOU REALLY QUICKLY
BEFORE I GET TO WHAT THIS MEANS
FOR THE PRESIDENT, EVEN
POTENTIALLY PARDONING HIMSELF,
MY COLLEAGUE, GARRETT HAAKE, WAS
REPORTING ON CAPITOL HILL,
REPRESENTATIVE HAKEEM JEFFRIES
AMONG OTHERS, NOT NECESSARILY
CONCERNED WITH LOOKING BACK OR
OPENING AN INVESTIGATION INTO
THIS PHONE CALL.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO
REPRESENTATIVE HAKEEM JEFFRIES
IF YOU HAD A DIFFERENCE OF
OPINION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT
THIS CALL SHOULD BE
INVESTIGATED?
HE WANTS TO LOOK FORWARD IN THE
INCOMING BIDEN ADMINISTRATION,
NOT FOCUS ON THIS CALL.
>> I THINK ITS FINE TO LOOK
FORWARD, AT THE SAME TIME, LAW
ENFORCEMENT SHOULD DO WHAT THEY
DO, WHICH IS INVESTIGATE
POTENTIAL CRIMES AND THEN IT
WILL BE UP TO THE PROSECUTORS TO
DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT
TO CHARGE THOSE CRIMES.
ITS VERY CLEAR THAT THE
EVIDENCE IS NOW IN BROAD
DAYLIGHT.
THERES AT LEAST A ONE-HOUR
RECORDING AND THE FBI NEEDS TO
AUTHENTICATE THAT RECORDING.
VERIFY THE PEOPLE ARE WHO THEY
SAY THEY ARE ON THEIR RECORDING
AND THEN CONDUCT AN
INVESTIGATION.
AND THEN HAND IT TO THE
PROSECUTORS FOR A DECISION.
>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE ABOUT THE
POTENTIAL SETUP, IF, IN FACT,
THIS INVESTIGATION IS LAUNCHED
THAT THE PRESIDENT COULD
POTENTIALLY TRY TO PARDON
HIMSELF?
>> SO FIRST OF ALL, THE
PRESIDENT CANNOT PARDON ANYONE
FOR STATE CRIMES AND THE
PRESIDENT ALSO CANNOT PARDON
HIMSELF.
NO LEGAL EXPERT THAT HAS ANY
CREDIBILITY SAYS THAT THE
PRESIDENT CAN PARDON HIMSELF.
THAT COMPLETELY GOES AGAINST
WHAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS SAID
IN THE PAST WHICH NO ONE IS
ABOVE THE LAW INCLUDING THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
>> ALL RIGHT.
LET ME PLAY FOR YOU, IF I CAN,
ALSO ABOUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT
MIGHT DO NEXT.
THIS IS THE KIND OF ADVICE HES
GETTING INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE.
WATCH THIS.
>> JANUARY 20th CANNOT BE
CHANGED.
THATS CONSTITUTIONAL.
BUT THIS WHOLE CERTIFICATION
THING, THE DAYS CAN BE CHANGE.
>> WELL, IT CAN BE CHANGED,
ACTUALLY.
>> ANYWAY, PETER NAVARRO.
>> WE CAN GO PAST THAT DAY.
>> OH.
>> WE CAN GO PAST THAT DATE.
IF --
>> OKAY.
>> IF WE NEED TO.
>> ALL RIGHT.
UNFIREFIGHT,
UN
UNFORTUNATELY, A QUICK FACT
CHECK, PETER NAVARRO IS WRONG.
20th AMENDMENT OF THE
CONSTITUTION SETS THE DATE OF
THE INAUGURATION, NOT THE
PRESIDENT.
CONGRESSMAN, HOW MUCH DOES IT
CONCERN YOU THAT THESE PEOPLE
ARE THE PEOPLE THAT THE
PRESIDENT IS GETTING HIS ADVICE
FROM?
>> WELL, PETER NAVARRO IS RIGHT
IN A SENSE THAT WE COULD BLOW
PAST THAT DATE WITH NOTHING
HAPPENING, WHICH CASE, SPEAKER
PELOSI WOULD BECOME PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES.
WHICH IM TOTALLY FINE WITH.
BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT PETER
NAVARRO IS GIVING ALL SORTS OF
WRONG ADVICE TO DONALD TRUMP AND
ITS REALLY HIS ENABLERS THAT
MADE IT WORSE THAN WHAT DONALD
TRUMP IS DOING AND HOPEFULLY WE
HAVE MORE AND MORE REPUBLICANS
STAND UP SUCH AS A NUMBER OF
REPUBLICAN SENATORS AND HOUSE
MEMBERS WHO HAVE SAID THAT THEY
WILL NOT OBJECT TO ELECTORAL
COLLEGE RESULTS ON WEDNESDAY.