let
so most interesting exchange
uh... came out this of course is rick perry's first time on the debate stage
with his uh... fellow clown car members
and uh... rick perry really struck me i've never really seen him in any type
of uh... setting other than i think that clip that we played of him
talking about abstinence and i thought well came back as
really down but uh... bore you really brought his stupid is different with the
killer it's night
and uh... he reaches
and i think uh... the rahman people might be right about this to bromley
people are saying this is why he can never win
the general election
and uh... this is an exchange that uh... perry head
regarding soc carry
so uh... this is a a clip number one
gather mary
he said he wrote the book set up
to start a conversation
congratulations it certainly done that in recent weeks
in the book you call social security the best example
of a program that quote violently tossed aside any respect
for states' rights
we understand your position that it's got funding problems now
i'd like you to explain your view that social security was wrong right from the
beginning
quality of this uh... that
want to go back in
chain seventy years of uh... what's been going on in this country is probably
going to have a difficult time
and rather than spending a lot of time talking about
those folks were doing back in the of the thirties in the forties as
is is a nice intellectual conversation but the fact is we gotta be focused on
how
we're gonna change this program
in people who are on so security today
men and women who are receding those benefits today are individuals of my age
there on the inline pretty quick to get them they'd only to worry about anything
the republican
candidates
or talking about ways to transition this program
and it is a monstrous la
it is a ponzi scheme
to tell our kids that are twenty five or thirty
years old today you pain into a program is going to be there anybody that's for
the status quo
with social security today
is involved with a monstrous y
dark it that's not right
so here's rick perry
challenging
and this is a difficult situation wherein there he is trying to pay that
can say that assess care he's not going to work
but he has in the past challenged
so security as fundamentally as something that shouldn't exist
and uh...
direct bush learned the hard way
that you can't really get away with that
and uh... so url romney is now
in a follow-on
and try and box
uh... perry into that corner
by saying by forcing perry to say that social security is illegitimate
now understand here uh... the this is this is a
talking point on the right
perry is trying to say that he is more conservative than romney
uh... and romney's trying to say that he's more electable in trying to push
rick perry into the
zone of the you're completely back crap
crazy
which is that so security shouldn't exist
so here is ron the coming back with that
well the issue
is not the funding of social security we all agree i have for years that the
funding program a social security is not working and congress have been reading
the dollars from social security to pay for annual govern expenditures that's
wrong the funding however is not the issue that the issue caitlyn is like
setup this is a this is where uh... romney says we should put it in a
lockbox
we should put that their funding in a lock box and not allow congress to
raided
now chorus
um...
we all agree that
so scared trust fund has been rated
the question is
we have an obligation to pay it back
why was a raided to pay for the bush tax cuts on the wealthy
why don't they wanna pay it back
well because then they'll have to make it up with income taxes
this is the crux of the matter
but uh... rom is not in a call for a lockbox
annual dramatics furnitures that's wrong
the funding however is not the issue that the issue in the book setup
governors did as you say that by any measure social security is a failure
you can say that the tens of millions americans who live on social security in
those who have lived up
uh... the governor says look states ought to be able to opt out of social
security
are our nominee
has to be some
hooked wasn't committed to abolishing social security but is about the
committed to fit the saving social security we have always had at the heart
of our party and recognition
that we want to care for those indeed and our seniors have the new social
security i will make sure that we keep the program and we make it financially
secure we save social security and in those circumstances
what i ever say
by any measure
it's a failure
it is working for millions of americans and i'll keep it working
for millions of americans and we got to do that as a party thank you governor
governor perry a thirty second row bottle
panoramas advice but she needs right then you're on a bipartisan twelve years
where they can
we're not try to pick fights here understood were about fixing things you
can you have the reasons or you can have results in the american people expect us
to put results in place you cannot keep the status quo implies and not call
anything other than a ponzi scheme it is that is what it is americans know that
and regardless of what anyone says oh it's not been that's provocative line
maybe it's time to have some provocative language in this country and say things
like let's get america working again and do whatever it takes to make that happen
while at far kiddo
who really gone on our way in that lets get what it takes tab america working
again
in bold
do what it takes
uh...
made this guy
uh... while
um...
any he's got a real problem here because
uh... so security has
been
this system has stayed the same
essentially over the past seven the almost eighty years now
and so on his calling this eighty-year system
in the worst case scenario
will pay out seventy eight percent of promised benefits starting in thirty
thirty seven
until uh... uh... we're all dead
all those listening to this program robbed at
he's saying that's a ponzi scheme well ponzi scheme is that the
you run out of people who are putting money into the system this is a
generational transfer and will do younger generation gives to the older
generation that's away so security works
if it was a ponzi scheme
you would have to have all the young people don t
in not exist
they just
go away
but there will always be young people
if not
then i think soc curitiba the least of our worries
will be in some type of like weird to uh...
in a star trek at there's no telling people
listen children
your detergent young people
there's no telling people
they went away that's when you hear like the the figure seventy trillion dollars
when you when you hear the figure seventy trillion dollars the country it
has a seventy trillion dollar liability
that is somebody saying
we've got a payouts are scary we've got a payout medicare without any
contemplation
that they'll be young people alive to pay into the system
it's as if everybody gets to be sixty-five you come out of the womb and
you're sixty five
it is in fact not a ponzi scheme and
i think if you want to really make sure
that there is no republican president
in twenty twelve
uh... what you hope for is ronnie to keep going after a uh...
carry this way
perry entrenching himself more
and exposing romley as some type of the hood liberal northeast republican right
now
so that the crazies in the republican party uh... nominate pet