human evolution is not a fact because this guy has debunked it so get ready to find out why with me
and godless engineer what's up heathens how y'all doing i can't wait to get into this video today
hello i'm the skeptic i watch videos on youtube that make extraordinary claims whether that's
evolution is fake or atheism is wrong but mostly the claim that a god is real and then explain
why i can't accept their position before we start today's video do the things with all the buttons
you know that will be awesome this is a two-part video series with the other part over on godless
engineers channel thanks the skeptic i really appreciate being invited onto your channel so
we can handle this really long video on both of our channels so if any of you heathens that are
watching this right now want to come on over to my channel subscribe and see the other part of
this video that we're doing then please do come on over but only after you watch this video we're tag
teaming this video to give you the information from ge and my gut reaction to why these claims
are a bit out there kyle kirby from reasons for hope can debunk evolution and i'm excited to learn
how but let's jump into this issue today we got to continue on god said this is an interesting and an
extremely important point in genesis 1 26 it says god said let us make man in our image
that little two-word phrase we just kind of run by do you know what the implications are the
bible doesn't claim to be a good book god said god breathe this means that the word of god is
directly from god i guess this is only a video for theists since they already accept that there is a
god without it being demonstrated presupposing a god's existence and then saying it must have
said this doesn't make it true if this video was designed to convince non-believers it's already
starting off on the wrong first well typically these types of talks or seminars are geared to
accomplish two things first they're looking to reinforce this common core of beliefs that both
the audience and the speakers share second they're attempting to give their audience good arguments
to defend their beliefs the only problem is is that these arguments are only
good at keeping ignorant people ignorant and that little phrase is used 46 times in the scripture
by the way over 3000 times it claims to be the word of god not just a good book
and if somebody tries to tell you that genesis isn't important of those 46 times that god said
is used 28 of them take place in genesis okay good for it i don't see how this means anything
about the truth of the bible god said he created humans out of dirt and that just isn't true god
also said that he was all-powerful but yet iron chariots are too much for him god also said that
he was all-knowing yet at several points in the bible he is found to not know something god said
is about as useful as mama said from the water boy and so what if that's what was said 28 times
i could say 28 times in one of my stories that my pen is red when it's actually green
that doesn't make it true genesis is written as historical narrative as real actual occurrences
and by the way if jesus can quote genesis 25 times and quoted his real history you better believe
that this poor feeble mind right here can take it is real history does that mean if mark hamill
quotes star wars as luke skywalker we as star wars fans can accept it as historically accurate
i know a guy that would love it if star wars was real you know i get a kick out of some of those
star wars movies where something is being blown up in outer space and we hear explosive sounds
there is of course no sound in outer space because an atmosphere is needed to carry sound waves
i hate to break it to you buddy star wars isn't real well you know jesus also thought that you
could cure blindness with dirt and spit he also thought that some illnesses were caused by demons
well so he found out on the video on my channel carl also thinks that satan buried fossils in
the ground to deceive people so i don't think that spitting in somebody's eyes and then throwing dirt
in their face to cure them is all that far-fetched for him god said let us make man in our image by
the way if you want value think about this for a second where does our value come from how pretty
how smart how talented no you are created in the image of god you are fearfully wonderfully made
you were literally knit together in your mother's womb that's really weird to say because about 10
to 20 of all pregnancies end in miscarriage in 2019 there were about 6.69 million ectopic
pregnancies that required medical intervention in order to save the mother's life you're telling me
that god knitted these fetuses and blastocyst into the mother's womb for what purpose exactly
shits and giggles he literally knits fertilized human embryos into the fallopian tubes of some
women to where without medical intervention they would die god is quite inept if you ask me
i hope he doesn't mean literally knit please don't use knitting needles to explore parts of your body
and what about the folks that don't conform to the standards used to describe humans when folks are
born with extra body parts or even missing body parts is that a god actually saying i have seven
fingers on my left hand but no right leg and it goes on to tell you this so god created man in his
own image in the image of god creating him male and female created he them young ladies let me
talk to you for just one second we live in a world that is just distorting distorting your value your
value you believe from what the world is telling you is how pretty you are how smart you are how
well you look compared to a billboard are we going to get to the part where he debunks evolution soon
i'm not entirely sure where this preamble's going yeah i don't know why he's awkwardly focusing on
pretty women and where they derive their value from i mean maybe he's trying to draw a line from
a material understanding to a supernatural understanding of the world i think that's
giving him way too much credit your value has everything to do with the fact that the one who
created you loved you so much that while you rejected him while you said no thank you he
came and he died for you i'm not trying to be disrespectful but you need to know the truth
this sounds real guilt trippy to me it's like he's trying to make his audience feel bad for the fact
that his magical story has one of the characters die to absolve some kind of imaginary problem that
was ultimately created by the god of that story it's like trying to make people feel personally
responsible for professor snape dying in the harry potter series where is he getting this
truth your value has everything to do with what you think your self-worth is and what the ones
around you think of you right and at least that's all demonstrable you see the world tells us
that we get here by slow gradual processes over millions of years and this thing turning into
this thing and this turn into this thing and by the way if that world view is true if it
were true and there is no god and we got here by this process then where does our value come from
if this history is true then it is based on how pretty how smart how talented praise god that
it's not but what's the evidence to support this progression if we're here to say that this guy has
got it wrong about evolution it's going to be easy evolution doesn't suggest we turn into things this
linear chart doesn't explain how evolution works why can't theists get their heads around that
and carl would also need to define value as a gut reaction i would say that value would mean
how does one contribute to the continued success of a species you only have to look at other social
mammals ones that don't know of the concept of gods and see that members of groups have different
roles and therefore values also evolution just describes a change in allele frequencies within
a population what he's kind of referencing here is some kind of selection whether it's
natural selection or artificial selection i'm not exactly sure while those mechanisms are important
to the process of evolution they don't define evolution in any kind of way let's take a listen
to a non-christian here and he says this there's a popular image of human evolution that you'll
find all over the place on the left of the picture there's an ape on the right of man between the two
is a succession of figures that become ever more like humans our progress from ape to human looks
so smooth so tidy it's such a big island image that even the experts are loath to let it go
but it is an illusion i told you in another session that i love illusions but i will not put
my eternal salvation on an illusion and neither should you well it's not an illusion to him it
is illusory to anyone that doesn't already believe in creationism or christianity but i
read the original context and the guy was trying to emphasize that the change between individuals
and our evolutionary history were a lot more gradual than the image show that is the illusion
it's not an illusion that we are apes and that we descend from ape-like ancestors can i cherry-pick
certain words from the bible i pick the words god is there and no i wonder what sentence i can make
from that it's similar to what this guy is doing selecting part of a text and using it to say
this expert said evolution is an illusion all that's being said is this demonstration of how
evolution actually works isn't accurate why do theists continue to use the monkey to man chart
when it's been explained countless times that it's not actually a representation of evolution why do
they use old texts to confirm their biases oh hang on see the truth is the evidence doesn't support
it i want to show that to you i'm going to take you to mr cottenmaker he wrote an article in usa
today where he said this do religious believers really want the truth of their faith wagered on
an attempt to prove that countless scientists have somehow botched the reading of the fossil record
botched botched how because they say an outdated description of how evolution should be explained
isn't actually how it works yeah i'm curious as to why he thinks it's botched does he think that the
dating of the fossils is botched or is it botched how we group organisms into clades i assure you
he'll remain vague on this point because then that allows his audience to create whatever reason
they need in their mind to convince themselves that the fossil dating is botched it also somewhat
absolves him from defending this claim it's a dishonest tactic that creationists regularly
creationist now hold up i am one but i wasn't raised a creationist god created and i didn't even
hear anything really about until i was like 27 years old i came to be a creationist because i was
challenged to look at the evidence which is what i want to do to you go look at the evidence and see
if what we're observing in the world around us is consistent with the word of god or not well
that's bassackwood's thinking he is starting from his conclusion that god's word is true and
then using the real world to confirm that belief shouldn't you start from a more agnostic position
and then test the claim that god's word is true on whether or not it comports with reality observing
the world around us and saying the bible might be saying this to confirm it doesn't actually make
the bible factual creation creationists ultimately are not interested in science here's one of the
best tools that i think i can give you and it's free go to your app store type in 1828 the year
1828 1828 dictionary there's going to be like three apps that come up one is a buck 99 one's
399 one is free get the free one it doesn't look as pretty but it's you just want the tool download
that 1828 dictionary type in the word science in an 1828 dictionary compare it with a modern day
definition of science and you know what you're going to find the reason that non-christians
can say that christians don't do science is they have re-defined the term oh fun interaction okay
let's see oh first sentence the science of god must be perfect okay then people in 1828 almost
100 years ago believed science explained to god that's it we must all be convinced
and also maybe we should all live as they did in 1820 what a stupid argument as time and technology
has changed our understanding of how the world works has demonstrated there's no need for a god
to have done anything essentially we're taking the god out of the gaps and replacing it with
an understanding am i misunderstanding that ge nope that's spot on i do love how they literally
have to pull out a dictionary in order to use a dictionary fallacy first of all dictionaries
are descriptive not pre-script meaning that dictionaries describe how we use language and not
how language should be used we have changed our understanding of reality and science in general
and so our language should reflect that change what gives them the right to redefine the term
the fact that there's 400 000 churches across the nation of america that have by and large monday
through saturday we've disappeared in the culture oh poor christians they've disappeared from
culture while at the same time maintaining such a firm grasp on culture that supreme court nominees
are questioned on their level of faith how often they go to church and whether or not people
should be able to pray at football games but yeah christians have disappeared from culture also the
scientific community hasn't redefined anything our understanding of the world changes and so
therefore our language changes but also keep in mind that the people that changed the definition
of science were also christians themselves should we even mention that out of those 400 000 churches
only a handful agree with each other but yeah we've gained a better understanding than those
folks in 1828 i mean they were still putting folks on trial for being witches back then why would you
take a definition of science from back then but not use i don't know the medical practices they
also used i'd like to see your herpes leeched out carl we absolutely care about science you go study
the founders of almost every branch of science and you're not going to find just christians you're
going to find creationist the whole concept was if you want to understand the creator
study the creation because his attributes would be in what he made we care deeply about science
just not the current definition which has changed how have we not even got to the debunking of
evolution yet creationists don't accept the current definition of science okay then that's not
my problem if you want to use the dated version of science to explain how a god did it you'd
still have to demonstrate the god definitions don't prove god god proves god and so far
no god has been proved right that's correct and i also love how they can't help but to pull out
a cavalcade of fallacies in order to defend their position in this case it would be the
genetic fallacy it literally doesn't matter if the founders of every single branch of science were
christian that doesn't make scientific pursuits christian and it doesn't mean that christians
can dictate scientific research or the definitions of words we use also he's still doing things a bit
bass accurate he's looking to confirm his belief in a creator by selectively choosing information
about reality that confirms his belief that's not how you arrive at the truth of reality now
let's do this last part here let's try and do this honestly with all of our heart in setting aside
preconceptions and following trails of observable evidence to logical testable conclusions again
we're using the secular sources which we need to do teach a generation how to look at these things
and critically evaluate when we set aside our preconceived ideas does the observational evidence
lead us to walking with cavemen or does it lead us to in the beginning god that's a decision that
i'm going to leave in your hand if by caveman he means neanderthals then yes we did we have genetic
evidence that we once co-mingled with neanderthals because while they are a different species of
hominid we were genetically similar enough to be able to mate so the empirical evidence that we
have shows this connection as well as a connection between us and other apes in the great eight
family here's a fun bit of trivia for you i was asked to audition for that very show walking with
cavemen but anyway setting aside preconceived ideas would mean that the 1828 definition of
science is completely irrelevant how does x work no idea let's find out not how does x work no
idea let's look up the definition of the way we evaluate it first and then decide if we'd like
that before moving on if this was it for debunking i would say that all carl did here was give extra
bunk well godless engineer certainly knows a lot more about all this than me and you can check out
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