AND JENNIFER JACOBS. LET'S START OUT WITH THE CHANGES
INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE. AS GENERAL TILLY BEGINS HIS
SECOND WEEK AS CHIEF OF STAFF. THERE ARE EARLY SIGNS OF A
CULTURE SHIFT. KELLY HAS MOVED QUICKLY TO MOVE
THE UNCHECKED FLOW OF PAPERWORK CROSSING THE PRESIDENT'S DESK
AND INSTITUTED A FORMAL PROCESS FOR MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES. HE'S RESTRUCTURED THE STAFF BY
PUTTING IVANKA AND JARED KUSHNER UNDER HIRMS, AND STAFFERS CAN NO
LONGER SQUEEZE IN AN AUDIENCE OF THE PRESIDENT BY LOITERING
HOPING THEY WILL CATCH THE PRESIDENT'S EYE.
KELLY HAS ALSO REPORTEDLY ASSURED BOTH JEFF SESSIONS AND
H.R. McCASTERS ABOUT THEIR FUTURE WITHIN THE
ADMINISTRATION, AND AS FOR ALL THE TWEETS, JENNIFER JACOBS SAYS
EVEN THOUGH KELLY DOESN'T GET TO REVIEW EVERY ONE, THE PRESIDENT
HAS AGREED TO SHOW KELLY IMPORTANT ONES.
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS MADE IT CLEAR HE RESERVES THE RIGHT TO
IGNORE SOCIAL MEDIA ADVICE. THE QUESTION NOW IS WHETHER OR
FOR HOW LONG THE NEW DISCIPLINE CAN LAST.
THE WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL SAYS KELLY HAS BEEN CLEAR HE'S HERE
TO MANAGE THE STAFF, NOT TO MANAGE THE PRESIDENT.
AND THAT IS SO IMPORTANT. BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE
SAYING WELL, IF JOHN KELLY WORKS OR NOT, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE
PRESIDENT'S SPEECHES ARE LIKE. NO.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO BE HIS
COMMUNICATIONS PERSON. IT'S NOT JOHN KELLY'S JOB IF HE
CAN MUTE HIM AT TIMES BEFORE HE GETS TOO CONTROVERSIAL.
THAT'S GREAT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE STANDARD BOB COSTA THAT JOHN
KELLY IS GOING TO BE TESTED BY. IT'S HOW DOES HE RUN THE WHITE
HOUSE STAFF. AND WHAT CAN YOU TELL US?
TAKE US INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE OVER THE PAST WEEK, WEEK AND A
HALF. I HEAR THAT THERE'S A GOOD BIT
OF RELIEF FROM THE STAFF, ACTUALLY, AROUND THAT SOMEBODY
HAS COME IN THAT KNOWS HOW TO INSTITUTE ORDER.
I WOULD GUESS THE PRESIDENT MAY ACTUALLY FIND THIS TO BE A NICE
CHANGE AS WELL. >> Reporter: CHECKING WITH MY
SOURCES, I DETECTED A CULTURAL CHANGE NOT JUST IN TERMS OF
ORDER BUT ALSO POLITICALLY. YOU HAVE IN GENERAL KELLY A
NONIDEOLOGICAL FIGURE. THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN REINCE
PRIEBUS. I'M TOLD, FOR INSTANCE, ON TAX
REFORM WHEN THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE HAPPENED IN RECENT DAYS,
THE GENERAL HASN'T TAKEN A POSITION.
HE'S NOT ADVOCATING FOR ONE FACTION OF THE WHITE HOUSE OR
ANOTHER. HE'S TRYING TO BE THE BALANCE
BETWEEN ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SIDES AND ORBITS AROUND THE
PRESIDENT. >> AND THAT'S SOMETHING REINCE
PRIEBUS ALWAYS, HE HAD HIS RPC HAT, AND HE WAS THERE TO BE IN
THE CONDUIT BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP, A LIFE-LONG DEMOCRAT AND
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ON CAPITOL HILL.
THAT WAS ALWAYS DIFFICULT FOR HIM.
BUT KELLY IS JUST GOING IN THERE A LOT LIKE EISENHOWER, NOT
INTERESTED IN THE FAR RIGHT OR FAR LEFT.
JUST INTERESTED IN WHAT WORKS. HOW DO WE GET THIS TO WORK?
HOW DO WE GET LEGISLATION PASSED?
HOW DO WE BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE HILL?
>> AND I THINK THAT WHAT WORKS FOR THE STAFF THAT IS REASSURED
IS HE'S A GENERAL REASSURING THE GENERALS WHO ARE THE FOLKS THAT
COME THE CLOSEST TO GIVING ANY SORT OF COMFORT ABOUT THIS WHITE
HOUSE, GENERAL MATTIS, GENERAL McMASTER, WHICH IS WHAT MAKES IT
SO SURPRISING THAT THIS OPEN WARFARE IS UNDERWAY UNDER
McMASTER. >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO
LAST TOO LONG. DO YOU?
JOHN KELLY DID NOT PUT UP WITH ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI FOR MORE THAN
24 HOURS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE DISORDER.
IT MAY NOT HAVE EVEN HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH SCARAMUCCI
PERSONALLY. HE JUST WASN'T GOING TO DEAL
WITH THE CHAOS AND DISORDER. HE'S A GENERAL.
I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO ALLOW STEVE BANNON AND BANNON'S
ALLIES TO KEEP TRASHING AN AMERICAN HERO FOR MUCH LONGER.
>> I HOPE BANNON HAS SHOWN HE'S MORE CLEVER.
HE'S GOING TO DO IT IN A MORE SORT OF INSURGENT WAY.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT ROGUE OPERATORS INSIDE WEST WINGS IN THE PAST,
THEY'VE BEEN THE ONES THAT RUN THE INSURGENT CAMPAIGNS.
NOT THAT THIS IS HARD TO SEE. IT'S A PRETTY DIRECT LINE AT
BREITBART, THERE'S A PIECE WITH BROAD SIDES AGAINST McMASTER,
THE RUMBLINGS ABOUT HOW TRUMP IS UNHAPPY WITH McMASTER.
ANYBODY WHO TALKS TO PEOPLE INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE HAS A
PRETTY GOOD SUSPICION ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM OR
THEY HAVE FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE ABOUT IT.
SHORT OF HAVING DONALD TRUMP FIRE BANNON AND PRESIDENTS ARE
USUALLY REMISS TO FIRE THE PEOPLE WHO ASSEMBLE THE
POLITICAL COALITIONS WHO GET THEM ELECTED, I'M NOT SURE HOW
HE KEEPS ALL OF THE HEAT OFF -- >> SEE, THOUGH, BUT NICOLE,
THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS DONALD TRUMP.
DONALD TRUMP HAS A GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE THAT ACTUALLY THINKS
HE GOT STEVE -- THAT STEVE BANNON ACTUALLY GOT HIM ELECTED,
AND I KNOW PEOPLE THINK THAT WHEN I MOCK STEVE BANNON FOR
THINKING THAT HE GOT DONALD TRUMP ELECTED, THEY THINK I'M
TROLLING HIM. STEVE BANNON DIDN'T COME ONTO
THIS CAMPAIGN UNTIL RELATIVELY LATE IN THE CAMPAIGN.
AND YET, BANNON'S RUNNING AROUND GOING, WELL, HE CAN'T GET RID OF
ME BECAUSE I'M THE ONE THAT HELPED GET HIM ELECTED.
HE CAN'T GET RID OF ME BECAUSE I'M THE ONE THAT TOLD HIM HOW TO
APPEAL THE WORKING CLASS WHITES. DONALD TRUMP WAS DOING THAT LONG
BEFORE STEVE BANNON WENT TO WORK FOR THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT I GUESS WHY IS HE STILL THERE.
>> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. >> AND ALL OF THE CONTROVERSIES
AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT REPEL A BROADER COALITION THAN THE 38%
SQUARELY BEHIND DONALD TRUMP ARE ASSOCIATED WITH STEVE BANNON.
WHITE NATIONALISM, THE BREITBART BAGGAGE.
ALL OF THAT HAS ITS SORT OF BIRTH FATHER, IF YOU WILL, IN
BANNON AND BANNONISM. >> ALSO IN FAIRNESS, BANNON IS
AS RESPONSIBLE AS -- >> BOB COSTA?
I'M SORRY. BOB, WE'LL GO TO YOU NEXT.
BOB, IT'S NOT 38%. NOW IT'S 33% THAT STEVE BANNONN
HAS BROUGHT THE PRESIDENT'S APPROVAL RATINGS TO.
>> REAL QUICK, I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE FIGHT BETWEEN
GENERAL McMASTER AND STEVE BANNON INSIDE OF THE HOUSE, IT'S
MORE THAN PERSONALITY. THIS IS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF U.S.
POLICY IN AFGHANISTAN. IS THE UNITED STATES GOING TO
HAVE A BIGGER FOOTPRINT THERE OR NOT?
IS IT GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE CERTAIN TROOP LEVELS OR NOT?
THAT'S A REAL TENSION. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS
BANNON REMAINS IN SPITE OF THE CONTROVERSIES AND IN SPITE OF
SOME TENSIONS AT TIMES WITH ELEMENTS OF THE PRESIDENT'S
CIRCLE, HE'S SEEN AS SOMEONE WHO ECHOES THE PRESIDENT WHEN IT
COMES TO AFGHANISTAN. I THINK THE PRESIDENT BASED ON
MY REPORTING LIKES BEING NOT ONLY THAT KIND OF VOICE IN THESE
DISCUSSIONS. >> JOE, I THINK THAT STEVE
BANNON AS MUCH AS ANYONE ELSE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THE PERSON WHO WINS IS THE PERSON WHO WINS.
THE STRATEGISTS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PART.
THE APPARATUS STEVE BANNON PUT TOGETHER IN POLITICS WITH HIS
DONORS AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, HIS IDEAS FOR HOW
TO FIND THE VOTERS WHO ARE THE PIVOTAL VOTERS TO FLIP FROM
DEMOCRAT TO TRUMP IN THE LAST ELECTION, LOOK, THAT GUY HAD HIS
FINGER ON THAT. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS
WHY PRESIDENT TRUMP IS RELUCTANT TO GET RID OF HIM.
HE IS THE GUY TO WHO PUTS THE CLOTHES ON THE IDEAS FOR DONALD
TRUMP. HE'S THE GUY WHO CREATED THE
BOAT WORK AND THE APPARATUS THAT -- BACKS UP TRUMP'S
INSTINCTS. >> SO YOU THINK -- I'M CURIOUS.
YOU THINK IT WAS BAN BANNON THA TARGETED THOSE PEOPLE AND HELPED
GET THE OBAMA PEOPLE -- I THOUGHT IT WAS JARED KUSHNER
THAT BUILT THE OUTREACH OPERATION.
I'M SORRY. THAT BLOOMBERG SAVAGED TWO OR
THREE WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION, AND THEN EVERYBODY AFTER THE
ELECTION WAS SAYING OH, THAT WAS A TURNOUT OPERATION.
I'M NOT BEING FACETIOUS. I DIDN'T KNOW -- JENNIFER, LET
ME GO TO YOU. INTERESTING STORY ABOUT DONALD
TRUMP'S TWEETING AND SORT OF THE DELICATE BALANCE THAT GENERAL
KELLY IS GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH IN DONALD TRUMP.
WHAT DID YOU LEARN? >> WELL, DON'T ASSUME THAT
GENERAL KELLY IS USING A HEAVY HAND ON THE PRESIDENT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT MY REPORTING IS SHOWING.
KEEP IN MIND THAT THE PRESIDENT SEEMS TO BE SHOWING A
WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN TO GENERAL KELLY.
REINCE PRIEBUS, A FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF TRIED TO CLOSE THE DOOR
ON THE OVAL OFFICE AND CONTROL THE FLOW OF INFORMATION ONTO THE
DESK AND TRUMP WAS RESISTANT. REINCE PRIEBUS WAS NEVER FULLY
IN CHARGE. WHAT WE'RE SEEING CHANGE IS A
WILLINGNESS FROM THE PRESIDENT TO LISTEN TO GENERAL KELLY, AND
HE'S BEEN WILLING TO LOOK AT TWEETS BY HIM.
KELLY IS NOT DISCOURAGING HIM FROM TWEETING.
IN FACT, HE'S BEEN INTRODUCING SOME TWEET IDEAS, TRYING TO
STEER TRUMP INTO D