>>> WE ARE BACK AND WE ARE
FOLLOWING THAT BREAKING NEWS
RIGHT HERE ON "MSNBC REPORTS"
FROM OUR INVESTIGATIVE TEAM THAT
IN FACT TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM
THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION SAY THEY
EXPECT CHARGES TO BE FILED
AGAINST THE ORGANIZATION AS SOON
AS TOMORROW, THIS IS KEY BECAUSE
THE QUESTION ON TIMING HAD BEEN
AN OPEN ONE SINCE LAST WEEK,
WHEN WE FIRST BEGAN REPORTING
THIS POSSIBILITY.
LET ME BRING IN CORRESPONDENT
TOM WINTER LEADING OUR COVERAGE
OF THIS.
WHAT DO YOU NO HE?
>> A COUPLE OF THINGS.
CHARGES ARE EXPECTED TOMORROW
AND ONE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
TRUMP ORGANIZATION TELLING ADAM
REESE PERHAPS 2:00 P.M. WILL BE
THE TIMING FOR THE CHARGES
TOMORROW.
HALLIE, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST OFF, NOBODY IN LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS COMMENTING ON THE
TIMING, THOUGH PERHAPS TELLINGLY
NOBODY IS TELLING US IT IS WRONG
EITHER SO THATS THE FIRST
THING.
THE SECOND THING IS I THINK IF
YOU HAD TOLD ME TWO MONTHS AGO,
THREE MONTHS AGO THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATIONS GOING TO BE
CHARGED, I WOULD HAVE SAID
THATS PROBABLY THE FINAL ACTION
IN THIS, BUT THAT LEGAL THINKING
AND THAT LEGAL CALCULUS HAS
CHANGED AND SO I THINK ITS
IMPORTANT TO KNOW SOME OF THE
THINGS THAT THE TRUMP ATTORNEYS
HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT RECENTLY
SAYING THAT THEYVE BEEN TOLD
THE INVESTIGATION WILL BE
ONGOING.
I DONT THINK THIS IS
NECESSARILY THE FINAL ACTION IN
THIS INVESTIGATION TOMORROW.
IT IS A SIGNIFICANT ONE.
IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE A
TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION AND HERES WHY,
HALLIE.
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT BANKS,
BECAUSE THIS IS NOW GOING TO BE
AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS BELIEVED
TO BE UNDER CRIMINAL INDICTMENT,
THAT BANKS MAY SAY YOU KNOW
WHAT?
WE WANT TO CALL OUR LOANS.
YOU GUYS NEED TO REPAY US AND
REPAY US NOW.
WE DONT KNOW THE TERMS OF THE
LOANS AND DONT KNOW WHAT
REDRESS THE BANKS HAVE BUT THIS
IS SIGNIFICANT FOR THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION, AS IT MAY IMPACT
THEIR FINANCING, IT MAY IMPACT
THEIR DAY-TO-DAY BUSINESS AND I
THINK THERES A THINKING HERE,
HALLIE, THAT THE AMOUNT OF
PRESSURE THAT THIS WILL PUT ON
THE INDICTMENT OF ALLEN
WEISSELBERG THE CFO OR ANY OTHER
INDIVIDUALS THE AMOUNT OF IMPACT
THIS COULD HAVE ON THE
ORGANIZATION COULD PRESSURE THEM
AND COULD PRESSURE MAYBE OTHER
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NO LONGER
PAID BY THEM TO PERHAPS COME
FORWARD AND SPEAK.
>> TOM, IM TAKING THIS HERE, A
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE
WAY THIS ANNOUNCEMENT MIGHT COME
TOMORROW?
WHAT IS YOUR SENSE?
WOULD PROSECUTORS HOLD LIKE A
NEWS CONFERENCE?
IS THAT EVEN IN THE REALM OF
POSSIBILITY OR IS THIS MORE OF A
FILING THAT WE WOULD SEE?
TALK US THROUGH WHAT YOUR
EXPECTATIONS ARE THERE AS FAR AS
WE KNOW.
>> MY EXPECTATION IS ITS GOING
TO BE A FILING, HALLIE
ANDREPORTS ARE TRUE AND OUR
REPORTING IS ACCURATE IN THAT
THIS INVESTIGATION IS GOING TO
BE ONGOING, IT HAS BEEN THE
PREROGATIVE OF MANHATTAN
DISTRICT ATTORNEY CY ADVANCE IS
NOT HOLD PRESS CONFERENCES AND
NOT SPEAK ABOUT IT.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT WOULD BE THE
CASE FOR TOMORROW AS WELL.
>> YOU TALK ABOUT THIS
INVESTIGATION BEING ONGOING.
I DONT KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE
TO SEE OUR INTERVIEW THAT WE
JUST CONDUCTED ON THE SHOW WITH
JENNIFER WEISSELBERG, ALLEN
WEISSELBERGS FORMER
DAUGHTER-IN-LAW, JUST AS THIS
NEWS WAS BREAKING.
I KNOW YOU WERE SPRINTING TO A
CAMERA SO IM NOT SURE.
SHE SUGGESTED THE GRAND JURY
WOULD BE SEATED FOR ANOTHER SIX
MONTHS AND SHE ALSO EXPECTED
THIS TO BE AN ONGOING PROCESS
THAT HER LAWYERS SHE SAID ARE IN
CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THOSE
INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE DOING THE
INVESTIGATION FROM THE MANHATTAN
D.A.S OFFICE.
I WONDER WHAT YOU MAKE OF THAT,
TOM, AND WHAT THAT SAYS TO YOU.
>> A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
THIS DOVE TAILS TO WHAT I WAS
SPEAK BEING BEFORE.
I THINK THE INVESTIGATION HAS
THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE SOME LEGS
DEPENDING UPON WHO COMES
FORWARD, WHO SPEAKS WITH THEM.
ITS STILL ONGOING.
YOU KNOW, HALLIE, ITS BEEN FOUR
MONTHS AND SIX DAYS SINCE THE
MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEYS
OFFICE HAS BEEN ABLE TO HAVE
TRUMPS TAX DOCUMENTS.
I THINK THATS IMPORTANT.
SO THEYVE MADE A LOT OF HEADWAY
IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
WHAT OTHER THINGS MIGHT THEY
FIGURE OUT AS THEY CONTINUE TO
GO DOWN THE LEGAL PATHS
PARTICULARLY IF ANYBODY BEGINS
TO COOPERATE WITH THEM.
I THINK THATS IMPORTANT.
I THINK THERES MORE STEPS FOR
THEM TO GO DOWN.
THIS IS A TACTICAL THING, ITS A
TACTICAL THING FOR TRUMPS
ATTORNEYS TO SUGGEST WHAT
THEYVE SUGGESTED THAT THIS IS
VERY LIMITED IN SCOPE AND VERY
TICKY TACK AND OUTRAGEOUS LEGAL
THING TO FILE.
THEYRE CLEARLY TRYING TO FILL
IN THE RUNWAY AND REPRESENT
THEIR CLIENT.
ON THE OTHER HAND WEVE HEARD
NOTHING FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT
THAT LEADS US TO BELIEVE THAT
THIS WILL NOT BE A SIGNIFICANT
ACTION TOMORROW.
IT MIGHT BE AND IN NEW YORK
WHILE THERE ARE STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS CONCERNS IF YOU
START GETTING INTO CONSPIRACIES
AND SCHEMES YOU CAN SAY OKAY
THIS CERTAIN ACTION HAPPENED
WITHIN THE LAST TWO OR FIVE
YEARS, WHATEVER THE STATUTE OF
LIMITATIONS MIGHT BE, BUT,
HALLIE, YOU COULD BRING IN PRIOR
BAD BEHAVIOR TO SHOW THAT
THERES A PATTERN OF THIS OVER
TIME.
SO WE SHOULDNT EXPECT
TOMORROWS CHARGES, I DONT
THINK TO BE JUST LIMITED TO THE
LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
I THINK THAT WERE GOING TO GET
A LOT MORE INFORMATION THAT
POTENTIAL CERTAINLY EXISTS,
HALLIE.
>> TOM, YOU TALKED ABOUT AND I
WANT TO PULL ON THIS THREAD A
LITTLE BIT, THE TACTICAL WAY
THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENTS
ATTORNEYS HAVE BEEN HANDLING
THIS.
AS YOU KNOW, IVE BEEN IN
CONTACT WITH MY SOURCES IN THE
TRUMP ORBIT OVER THE LAST WEEK,
SEVERAL DAYS.
I DONT WANT YOU TO GET OUT
AHEAD OF YOUR SKIS ON ANYTHING
YOURE HEARING.
CAN YOU GIVE US INSIGHT AS TO
THE DEMEANOR OF SOME OF THESE
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE TRUMP ORG
AS YOU ARE TALKING WITH THEM AND
OUR COLLEAGUES ARE TALKING WITH
THEM GIVEN THE CHARGES ARE
COMING.
BY ALL ACCOUNTS THESE ARE NOT
INSIGNIFICANT AND THERE MAY BE
WITH SOME EXPERTS OF COLLATERAL
CONSEQUENCES, THINGS THAT ARENT
NECESSARILY LEGAL BUT AFFECT THE
BRAND IN A WAY THAT COULD BE
DETRIMENTAL TO THE ORGANIZATION
MOVING FORWARD.
>> I THINK THE COLLATERAL
CONSEQUENCES HERE IS A BIG PART
OF IT.
IVE BEEN FOCUSED ON THE LAW
ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF THINGS.
ADAM REESE, YOURSELF, OTHERS
HAVE BEEN SPEAKING WITH FOLKS IN
THE TRUMP ORBIT, BASED ON THEIR
ON THE RECORD QUOTES AND THE
THINGS THEYRE SAYING PUBLICLY,
THEYRE TRYING TO PUT A FIRE
HOSE OF COLD WATER ON WHAT IS
ABOUT TO COME THAT IS THE SMART
STRATEGY AS A DEFENSE ATTORNEY I
WAS SPEAKING WITH DAN GOLDMAN
THE OTHER DAY ON WITH NICOLE
WALLACE, HE TALKED ABOUT THE
TIMES HES GONE UP AGAINST RON
FRISCHETTI, THE ATTORNEY FOR
TRUMP IN THIS WHOLE
INVESTIGATION AND DAN GOLDMAN,
FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR LED
THE IMPEACHMENT THE FIRST TIME
AROUND OF THE PRESIDENT.
THIS IS SOMEBODY EXPERIENCED,
KNOWS NEW YORK MEDIA, KNOWS HOW
TO WORK THE MEDIA AND YOU HAD TO
PUT INFORMATION OUT.
I THINK HES TRYING TO GET US TO
FOCUS ON CERTAIN THINGS.
IT DOESNT MEAN HES INACCURATE.
IT DOESNT MEAN THAT HIS POINTS
ARE NOT VALID BUT OBVIOUSLY HE
HAS A CLIENT TO REPRESENT AND
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE
COLLATERAL DAMAGE OF COLLAGE
DAMAGE TO THE PRESIDENT AND
CHILDRENS WEALTH TO IN HIS
WORDS AN EMPIRE THATS BUILT IN
THE GOLFING HOTEL AND PRIVATE
BUSINESS COMMUNITY WHEN YOU LOOK
AT ALL OF THAT OR PRIVATE
PROPERTY COMMUNITY, THAT THAT
COULD ALL BE UNDER THREAT
PERHAPS AS SOON AS 2:00 P.M.
TOMORROW, I THINK YOURE GOING
TO SEE A VOE RIFF RUSS RESPONSE
FROM THE PRESIDENTS
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENTATIVES
AND WELL HAVE TO SEE WHEN WE
ACTUALLY GET THE CHARGES HOW
DETAILED THEY ARE, WHAT
INFORMATION WE ACTUALLY GET IN
THEM AND THEN WHAT THAT
INFORMATION TELLS US ABOUT THE
TRUMP ORGANIZATION AND THEN
WELL SEE WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE
FROM THERE.
AN AWFUL LOT OF UNKNOWNS AS MUCH
AS WE KNOW ABOUT THE TRUMP
ORGANIZATION AS MUCH AS WE THINK
ABOUT THIS INVESTIGATION.
THERE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF
PAGES OF DOCUMENTS, MUCH MORE
THAN THAT THAT THE MANHATTAN
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS OFFICE IS
LOOKING AT AND THEY WERE ABLE TO
GET AFTER DEFEATING TWO
CHALLENGES FROM THE PRESIDENTS
ATTORNEYS IN THE SUPREME COURT,
THAT THEYVE BEEN ABLE TO GET
HERE, SO THERES A LOT OF THIS