Because, you know, you started relationship together.
He was the first man that you ever loved.
But of course he was in an open marriage, I think
with Angie Bowie at the time as well.
Well, how did that work?
When I first the first night we went out the next day
we were together, and the doorbell rings and ends.
He comes in.
So I'm standing there in a row.
But I'm looking at her and I'm like, Who is this woman?
And he goes away.
This is my wife.
Angie
kisses me.
His wife was kissing me?
It was so okay.
David, I've got to go.
See, I'm going to London to a for you.
So she she goes.
So I said, 'David,
why didn't you tell me you were married?'
I said because I I'm not sure it would have been here last night.
He said, Well, I'm sorry I didn't mention it because
it really didn't seem important to me.
We have an open marriage.
We've had no been married for some years now.
And she does what she once he sees what she wants.
So why on their and their marriage has been, you know, 10 years, very interesting
married so that she could stay working and the Yes, it was arrangement.
So of course I was smitten by that time, and I was like, Okay!
He had an intense relationship for two years.
You were working with him, but you was into you more than two years.
Sorry, I like five years.
You were his muse.
Like when you we always hear about these people who have their muse.
Because essentially it is.
It could be a job for people.
What?
What did that mean to you?
Was that him just vibing off your relationship or what was it?
I think David signed me even though I was very
young because I was, like, 17 years old,
going very, maybe 18.
He was my personality because I was very open with people on very
friendly and very warm, and he was kind of the opposite.
He wasn't he was more reserved, and he saw that
I had this energy that brought people to us.
That was that was that was passive.
And I think he saw me.
And then when I started working with him, he would asked my advice about
you know who we should work with and in that sort of thing.
And he trusted because you appeared on some of his albums as well.
You are really in America, but we changes.
Yeah.
Mentioned that you're a part of that from the professional
side, but also the personal side, too.
Yeah.
Young.
Age 17.
18.
You were propelled into an amazing level of celebrity.
I mean, and it was like it was destiny for me.
I'm saying that I felt that's the way I was obsessed to find him
When, you know, after we didn't get to work together the first
time, you know that I was I felt like it was my destiny.
The way that it happened.
It was like a fairy tale for me, you know, a fairytale story
there were looking at you there with David, I suppose.
These days,
it wouldn't have happened. You know, you were 17. Meeting someone
at 17, but it wouldn't have happened now.
But do you
think you were too young?
No, no, no.
I was very mature.
I used to hang out with 21 year old when I was 17.
You're talking about hanging out with Stevie Wonder?
Yeah, he was a mentor of sorts these five years together that you that you had,
which obviously is a time your cherish she was your boyfriend, right?
But did you have to be faithful to him?
And could he go off into other relationships?
What was the story?
That it wasn't spoken right?
I was expecting him to be faithful to me.
Maybe once
or twice.
It might.
There was a one night stand.
But if you know, if I saw him wanting to be with somebody,
I'd be like taking my clothes and packing.
And if you don't take your clothes,
don't go.
I don't want, you know.
And then, you know things will change.
When?
One time we were a we gave a party for Rudolph Nuria.
You know,
Mick Jagger was in the same party where we were in making David and I were friends.
So?
So we're in the party.
Everybody's getting you into thinking and getting
Buzz and David's over talking to some girl.
And so, Mick, start talking to me in the other side of the room.
So I'm talking about because I always like Mick Jagger right
in the David looks over and sees me talking to Mick and he
rushes over and goes, What do you two talking about?
All right, and day, because I'm just talking to Eva and he goes, He did
not leave the side of me and Mick Jagger for the rest of the night.
Thes name's Mick Jagger.
I mean, it's a wonder you've written an autobiography,
The Ava Cherry Story.
I mean, talk about even from Whitney Houston to John Lennon.
I mean, it must have been just just to spill all the Oh, because Whitney
was in a star when we first she was opening for Luther Vandross.
Her mother was working sissies who did all of Aretha's.
All those sweet inspiration.
She did all those background.
What was his mother on?
Then?
She said, Luther, can Whitney open for you And
you were singing with Luther Vandross?
Yes, and Luther said, Well, let's hear it.
And then that was when she did You give good love and
then she opened so she didn't have the audience.
We would go out into the audience to see her show, and it would be hardly
anybody there because they were all there to see looting.
But by the time we finish that tour.
She was getting the
and that's and so he really he really helped her career and really, you know, jump started
her career and she's the coven, our dressing room, me and and the other girl.
I work with Lisa Fischer and worked with the Rolling Stones as well.
Yeah, and she go.
She had this long dress on and her hair pulled up
and she go, How do you guys do your makeup?
So we're sitting there, So people tell me I look
like you said I'm like, yeah, right.
Right.
Because by the time she did dance, was somebody whatever we could, we looked alike.
You were teaching her to do her make?
Yeah.
I mean, I couldn't teach her anything else.
Yeah, but look, she did see that look there and she derived.
She put it together.
He was wonderful.
It's I would I want to talk to you all day long.
It's so fascinating.
And having watched a documentary 66 ft from stardom your life
as a singer with all these people, I know that you are So your
book is called 'All That Glitters: The Ava Cherry Story'.
It is your story it's fascinating.
But you are in Dublin, in Ireland for the David Bowie Festival, of
course, Dublin Bowie festival for years, years and you'll be performing
in Opium that is in Dublin on the 22nd of April.
And you're in conversation on the 23rd of April at the National Concert Hall.
For anyone who is just a fact, I'd say people, please fans of they
all know you, you know, like the fact that you're here.
It's so wonderful, You guys.
I mean, I love Dublin!
I love the Irish
people are so friendly and warm, and I've had the
most wonderful couple of days I've been here.
Everyone has been so nice working
in conversation on the 23rd of April is going to be in the national concert.
Yeah, way.
Hopefully, I'm gonna be Oh, thank you.
Thank you so much.
I really enjoyed it.