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>> Sean: SPENDING THREE
DECADES AS A U.S. SWIMMING
OFFICIAL BUT SHE JUST RESIGNED
IN PROTEST OVER TRANSGENDER
SWIMMER LEAH THOMAS OF THE
UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA WHO
IS A BIOLOGICAL MALE THAT’S BEEN
ALLOWED TO COMPETE AGAINST
FEMALES.
THOMAS IS NOW DOMINATING
SWIMMING EVENTS AND SETTING
RECORDS.
IN A RAZOR LEGATION LETTER, SHE SAID THAT "SHE
CAN’T SUPPORT THIS" AND THAT
EVERYTHING ABOUT SWIMMING IS
BEING DESTROYED.
SHE JOINS ME NOW.
CYNTHIA, THANK YOU FOR JOINING
ME AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
BRAVERY.
I’M CURIOUS, WHAT KIND OF
RESPONSE HAVE YOU GOTTEN SINCE
HE RESIGNED FROM YOUR POSITION?
>> SEAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I’VE GOTTEN A LOT OF KIND
COMMENTS FROM FELLOW OFFICIALS,
FORMER OFFICIALS, AND FROM
PARENTS OF SWIMMERS AND
SWIMMERS.
THE FACT IS THAT SWIMMING IS A
SPORT IN WHICH BODIES COMPETE
AGAINST BODIES.
IDENTITIES DO NOT COMPETE
AGAINST IDENTITIES.
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING,
SWIMMERS ARE DIVIDED BY SEX AND
AGE GROUP.
EIGHT AND UNDER, 9, 10, ALL THE
WAY UP BECAUSE FROM THE VERY
BEGINNING SWIMMING, USA SWIMMING
RECOGNIZES THAT BOYS SWIM
DIFFERENTLY FROM GIRLS.
THIS IS JUST ACCENTUATED WHEN
BOYS AND GIRLS GO THROUGH
PUBERTY.
BOYS WILL ALWAYS HAVE LARGER
LUNG CAPACITY, LARGER HEARTS,
GREATER CIRCULATION, A BIGGER
SKELETON, AND LESS FAT.
GIRLS GO THROUGH.
HE AND THEY HAVE A DOUBLE
WHAMMY.
THEY NOT ONLY GROW, BUT THEY GET
PERIODS AND OFTEN HAVE A TOTALLY
DIFFERENT CENTER OF GRAVITY.
THEY HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM
OVER AGAIN.
WHILE LEAH THOMAS AS A CHILD OF
GOD, HE IS A BIOLOGICAL MALE WHO
IS COMPETING AGAINST WOMEN AND
NO MATTER HOW MUCH TESTOSTERONE
SUPPRESSION DOGS DON’T LIKE
DRUGS HE TAKES, HE WILL ALWAYS
BE A BIOLOGICAL MALE AND HAVE
THE ADVANTAGE.
IT’S HORRIBLE.
THE STATEMENT FOR WOMEN THEN IS
YOU DO NOT MATTER, WHAT YOU DO
IS NOT IMPORTANT, AND LITTLE
GIRLS ARE GOING TO BE THROWN
UNDER THE BUS BY ALL OF IT.
HE WILL BE DESTROYING WOMEN
SWIMMING.
>> Sean: MY NEXT QUESTION FOR
YOU IS YOUNG WOMEN WHO PUSH BACK
CAN BE BELIEVED, SOCIAL MEDIA
BLOWBACK CAN BE GREAT.
BUT IF YOU LOOK TO MOMS ACROSS
AMERICA, MOMS OF ATHLETES OR YOU
LOOKED UP ROME ATHLETES OR
OLYMPIC ATHLETES WHO COMPETED IN
THE SPORTS AS WOMEN TO STAND UP
FOR GIRLS TO COMPETE AGAINST
OTHER WOMEN.
ARE YOU SEEING THAT KIND OF
MOTHER SUPPORT OR THE KIND OF
ATHLETES WHERE THEY WILL STAND
UP AND SUPPORT THE MOVEMENTS AND
BIOLOGICAL GIRL SHOULD BE
COMPETING AGAINST BIOLOGICAL
GIRLS AND BIOLOGICAL BOY SHOULD
BE COMPETING AGAINST BIOLOGICAL
BOYS?
>> IT’S GREAT, SEAN.
I’M GETTING GREAT LEADERS FROM
DADS OF DAUGHTERS AND MOMS OF
DAUGHTERS, BUT WE ARE ALSO
SEEING SOME PAST OLYMPIANS
STEPPING UP AND SAYING, NO, THIS
IS WRONG.
WE MUST REMEMBER OLYMPIC
SWIMMING FOR WOMEN WAS BUILT ON
GREAT SWIMMERS LIKE JILL, SURELY
COME ON JANET EVANS, JENNY
THOMPSON, ALL THESE WOMEN WHO
WORKED SO HARD BEFORE TITLE IX
WHEN THEY DIDN’T HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITIES THAT MEN HAD.
IT WOULD BE SUCH A SHAME, SUCH A
TRAVESTY TO THROW IT AWAY NOW.
THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
MEN ARE DIFFERENT FROM WOMEN,
MEN SWIMMERS ARE DIFFERENT FROM
WOMEN, AND THEY WILL ALWAYS BE
FASTER THAN WOMEN.
>> Sean: YOU KNOW, CYNTHIA, AS
A FATHER OF SIX GIRLS, I HAVE
NINE KIDS, SIX OR GIRLS,
THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR
GIRLS TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE
ABILITY TO COMPETE AND WIN WHEN
THEY COMPETE AGAINST OTHER
GIRLS.
I HOPE EVERY MOTHER AND FATHER
OUT THERE, EVERY OLYMPIC
SWIMMER, ANY WOMAN ATHLETES
STANDS UP AND STANDS WITH YOU TO
SAY THIS IS WRONG.
IT’S UNFAIR.
THANK YOU FOR LENDING YOUR VOICE
TO THE CAUSE AND STANDING UP AND
RESIGNING IN PROTEST.