I have a hot new rumor here about the canon RF system. With all the information
coming from Canon, this channel is beginning to feel like the Canon News
Network. Today I am discussing an APS-C equipped EOS R to replace the EOS 7d
mark 2 and what this would mean for the EF M mount used by the m6. First let's
take a look at the different mounts supported by Canon, and why this might
change canon still supports and makes EF mount lenses that have been used since
1987 it is used by DSLR full-frame cameras like the 5d and the 1d x but
also compatible with aps-c DSLRs like the canon itd the EFS mount cannot be
used by canons full-frame DSLR z' it's designed for kenneth aps-c DSLR cameras
like the 90 d in the 70 mark - the EF m mount is for canons mirrorless aps-c m6
camera the RF mount is used for canons full-frame ESR and RP mirrorless cameras
so what does this mean to you well if you own an aps-c DSLR like the 90 d you
can use the EF and EFS mount lenses if you have a full-frame DSLR like the 5d
or the 1d x you have access to EF mount lenses if you have an aps-c mirrorless
camera you can use EF m EF s and EF mount lenses but if you have a
full-frame ESR or RP you get to use EF EFS and are f-mount lenses the eos RF
platform gives you the largest lens selection you get access to over 80 EF
and ef-s lenses and all the new and innovative RF lenses that will be canons
focus for many years to come and if cost is an issue you can purchase cheaper EF
and EF lenses from the second-hand market the RF platform is really the
place to be right now if you want the latest and most innovative lenses now
let's get back to that rumor with the APS EOS are they're definitely would not
be the RF s lenses to for a smaller sensor us our camera body
no new RFS mount lenses would be developed so that means the existing
line of RF lenses would be accessible the body would change the flange focal
distance to let this happen sorry about using terms like flange focal distance
I'll break this in I'll break this down later in the video with some graphics
but first I want to go over the EFM mount and what this information means
for that mount the amount or to be more precise the EFM
mount was introduced in 2012 for the new EOS m mirrorless camera M meaning mobile
Canon is still developing lenses for this mount and they're still developing
bodies for this mount the most recent is the Canon m6 in 2018 Canon released the
full-frame mirrorless cos R with the new and larger RF mount the good news for
owners of the EOS R and M cameras is that both of these mirrorless mounts can
use existing EF and ef-s using a special adapter it's $99 for the RF system and a
hundred and $69 for the M system but don't expect canon to engineer any new
EF glass ken has stated that we will no longer be developing EF glass as you
know last year we launched the RF mount and EOS our system to date we have
launched 10 critically acclaimed lenses and it's a new system we plan to
continue this launching more RF lenses while still fully supporting the EF lens
system and of course should the market demand it we will be ready to create new
EF lenses but for now our focus is on RF the focus is on the RF mount Canon has
no plans to develop the EF class unless there's demand this is code for we do
not see enough demand for developing it any further on the EF mount completely
absent from the discussion was the M mount as though it does not even show up
on the radar so if Canon is looking at moving away
from the M system can the lenses be adapted to the RF mount no M mount
lenses are not compatible with the RF mount and no adapter can fix this
the EF m mount has an 18 millimeter flange focal distance the RF mount has a
20 millimeter flange focal distance the flange focal distance is the distance
between the mount and the sensor the EF mount has a flange focal distance of 44
millimeters that's a difference of 24 millimeters more
than enough to produce an adapter which they did we can adapt EF glass to both
the M and the RF platform but we cannot adapt n glass to work on the RF platform
there is unlikely to be an adapter to allow M glass to be adapted to the RF
mount the RF mount has a focal distance of 20 millimeters and the M mount has a
focal distance of 18 millimeters leaving only 2 millimeters to produce the
adapter then there's the difference in the mount diameter the RF mount flange
diameter is 54 millimeters the M mount flange diameter is 47 not a huge
difference but given that we only have 2 millimeters to work with there's nothing
much that can be done if we want to take our EF M lenses and adapt them to the RF
mount we would need to place the lens inside the camera body itself by 2
millimeters for the optics to work if you were smart enough to do this you
would definitely avoid the warranty as you started cutting into the camera body
optic makes it possible to take the Canon EF glass and adapt it to other
camera bodies but not the other way around so I for all that complicated
math and physics here's my point if you start off with an aps-c m6 and you buy a
bunch of lenses when you decide to upgrade to the ESR or RP you will not be
able to bring your lenses along and that's a big downer that's a huge downer
as a 70 d owner if I migrated to the EOS R I can bring along my EF glass that
makes the switch much more affordable I can also migrate to the 5d Mark v DSLR
but can only bring my EF lenses but not my EFS with the m6 I cannot bring any of
these lenses to the RF mount the EF m lenses only work on the m6 or its
predecessors owners of the M system have a very small walled garden without any
upgrade paths so what does this rumored aps-c RF mount body mean for the M
system owners if canon is actively working on an ApS
see camera for the RF mount is there any real reason to purchase into the M
system a system that provides no upgrade path especially when Canada's moving
development of their professional aps-c cameras to the EOS RF system will all
future development over and the RF platform we live in a world that strives
to maximize profit having a single lens mount for all their cameras would reduce
cost and help canon to improve revenue in a declining market and that's
important I do not see a future for the M system canon rumor states that a good
source tells us that an aps-c camera is in active development at Canon but not
likely to see the light of day until 2021 the RF system is canons future no
further development is planned for the EF mount the 90 d and the 5d mark 5 will
likely be the last DSLRs for the EF mount if you own an M camera there are
plenty of lenses so there's no reason to worry but when you decide to upgrade you
will not be able to bring along any of the lenses with you unless of course you
bought a bunch of EF lenses if you are considering the M system consider this
the eos RP full-frame camera is currently selling for $1000 recent
rumors point to Canon working on a low priced our pre camera that will cost
less than the RP canons released 10 RF lenses many will be released this year
many of those lenses have received very positive reviews Canon is increasing the
number of RF lenses under $1000 and plans to release several more affordable
lenses this year in contrast the M system has eight
lenses but has been around since 2012 that's an average of one lens per year
if I was looking to buy a canon camera and I couldn't wait a few months to see
what new bodies were coming out I'd consider the 90 D as a good round
general-purpose camera for photo and video any glass I purchase can be
migrated over to the future RF platform at a later date if I need a full-frame
camera or want better quality I could for the EOS R I cannot think of a
scenario where I'd want to go with the m6 to me it's a dead end it's not a bad
camera at all it's just that there is no road map other than its successor if
there is one I cannot upgrade to any RF camera and
bring my lenses along with me this video started out talking about a
rumored aps-c RF platform camera a professional level camera that would
take the place of the 70 mark - rather than replace the 90 d the RF platform
serves full-frame cameras but the addition of an aps-c camera is a sign
that Canon is moving to a single mount system Canon currently makes lenses for
four mounts the EF m EFS EF and our F all RF mount cameras can take advantage
of EF and ef-s lenses providing an upgrade path that leaves us with the
awkward m6 system there is no upgrade path
it only has eight lenses I will never tell you what to buy I'm not here to
influence you I want to inform you and then let you make your own decision most
ordinary filmmakers are not financially independent myself included we like to
buy good camera bodies with decent starter lens and then save up for a
chance to have some great glass if you want to buy lenses and transfer them
from one body to another this graphic should help if you are
looking at the m6 consider the 90 d for the ordinary filmmaker it provides a few
more capabilities but more importantly the lenses you purchase can be migrated
to the RF platform the 90 D can use both EF and ef-s lenses both of which can be
migrated to the RF system the EF lenses will also work on the full-frame DSLR as
like the 5d and the 1d x the RF offers the best roadmap you have access to all
the EF and ef-s glass you also have access to new and innovative glass one
downside it's new there are only two bodies and I'm not a big fan of first
generation tech with three more RF bodies coming out this year if you can
wait wait and watch a video I put out earlier that talks about Canada's new
rumored 1d it's not one DX the EOS our mark to it which is a very
video centric camera believe it or not the rumor is that this is going to have
8k Raw is going to have 4k 120 60 and 30 so a lot of new things are coming to the
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