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YOU KNOW I HAVE TO ASK YOU ABOUT
ANOTHER BIG THING.
I’M GOING TO GET RIGHT INTO IT.
THE COLLUSION BOMBSHELL.
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION FINDING
THAT INTERNAL TRUMP 2016 POLLING
DID GO ALL THE WAY TO THE
KREMLIN.
FOR VIEWERS, THE BACKGROUND HERE
IS THIS IS LITERALLY THE FIRST
TIME THE U.S. HAS PUBLICALLY
SAID THAT PAUL MANAFORT’S
MATERIAL WENT THROUGH THE OTHER
PERSON YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN TO THE KREMLIN.
THE KREMLIN.
THAT’S HIS ALLY KONSTANTIN
KILIMNIK.
>> MANAFORT MAY HAVE SENT
KILIMNIK INTERNAL PROPRIETARY
POLLING DATA.
>> WE DON’T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
THE POLLING DATA WAS.
>> THIS IS BELIEVED TO BE
SOMETHING VALUABLE.
>> IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL.
>> WHAT HE WAS DOING WITH
KILIMNIK DURING THE CAMPAIGN
SPEAKS MUCH MORE TO THE QUESTION
OF WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A
CHANCE THAT, IN FACT, HE DID
HELP THE RUSSIANS IN THEIR
EFFORT OR NOT.
>> AND NOW THE UNITED STATES
SAYS HE DID.
SO SHORT QUESTION, THEN A LONG
ONE.
ANDREW, THE SHORT QUESTION, DID
YOU, AS THE TOP MANAFORT
PROSECUTOR WORKING HAND IN GLOVE
WITH BOB MUELLER, KNOW THIS
THEN?
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
NONE OF US DID.
>> SO THAT’S BIG.
>> WE WERE ACTUALLY -- YEAH.
>> YEAH.
NOW IT’S KNOWN.
SO YOU DIDN’T KNOW IT THEN.
YOU GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
WALK US THROUGH WHAT THIS MEANS
NOW THAT, A, YOU DIDN’T HAVE THE
EVIDENCE OF IT AT THE TIME, BUT
MANAFORT KNEW WHAT HE DID.
WAS HE CONTINUING TO CONCEAL
THIS TO THE END TO CONCEAL
TRUMP, PUTIN OR BOUT ANDTH.
AND WAS THIS NOT FURNISHED TO
YOU IN THE MUELLER PROBE?
>> SO THE ANSWER YOUR FIRST
QUESTION, IT IS IMPORTANT TO
REMEMBER THAT WHAT WAS REPORTED
YESTERDAY, WHICH IS A BOMBSHELL,
WHICH IS WE DIDN’T -- WE
UNCOVERED REALLY TERRIFIC
INFORMATION WHICH WAS WE KNEW
THAT INTERNAL TRUMP POLLING DATA
WENT FROM RICK GAETZ AT PAUL
MANAFORT’S DIRECTION TO
KILIMNIK.
WE HAD STRONG SUSPICIONS WITH
WHAT HE WOULD DO WITH IT, BUT WE
HAD NO EVIDENCE OF THAT.
AND WE POINTED THAT OUT IN THE
REPORT.
WE WERE VERY CLEAR, WE DID NOT
HAVE EVIDENCE AS TO WHAT
HAPPENED NEXT.
SO THAT’S WHY THIS IS SO BIG,
WHAT WAS REVEALED YESTERDAY.
BUT AS TO YOUR FIRST POINT, WHAT
WAS REVEALED YESTERDAY DIDN’T
SAY THAT PAUL MANAFORT KNEW
BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT KILIMNIK
DID.
THAT’S IMPORTANT IF YOU ARE
LOOKING AT PAUL MANAFORT.
BUT IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE
BIG PICTURE, WHAT’S CLEAR IS
THAT KILIMNIK TOOK INTERNAL
TRUMP POLLING DATA AND GAVE IT
TO THE RUSSIANS.
WHETHER PAUL MANAFORT KNEW OR
NOT, IT IS HARD TO IMAGINE THAT
IF HE DIDN’T KNOW EXPLICITLY, HE
CERTAINLY KNEW THE RISK OF THAT
HAPPENING ONCE YOU GIVE THAT
INFORMATION TO A RUSSIAN WHO IS
WIDELY SUSPECTED OF BEING A
RUSSIAN SPY AND CONNECTED TO THE
GRU.
THE SECOND QUESTION YOU HAVE
WHICH IS SUPER INTERESTING IS IS
IT POSSIBLE THAT THE BUSH -- THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION DISCOVERED
THIS IN THE MINUTE AND 32
SECONDS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN
OFFICE?
IT IS POSSIBLE.
>> RIGHT.
>> BUT NOT LIKELY.
>> UNLIKELY.
>> AND, SO, THAT LEAVES THE OPEN
QUESTION OF WHO IN THE
GOVERNMENT KNEW THIS AND WHY ON
GOD’S GREEN EARTH WASN’T IT
COMMUNICATED TO THE SPECIAL
COUNSEL’S OFFICE?
THAT IS AN IMPORTANT FACT THAT
WE DON’T KNOW THE ANSWER TO
BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU, AS YOU
SAID, I WAS IN CHARGE OF THE
MANAFORT TEAM.
AND WE WERE LIKE DOGS WITH A
BONE.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE TRYING TO
PURSUE EVERY POSSIBLE LEAD.
>> DO YOU WANT TO NAME NAMES OF
ANYONE IN THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION THAT WOULD HAVE
BEEN THE RIGHT PERSON
RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING THAT
COOPERATING INFORMATION?
>> I DON’T KNOW -- I DON’T KNOW
BECAUSE WHAT WAS REPORTED
YESTERDAY DIDN’T SAY WHERE THE
INFORMATION CAME FROM WHETHER
IT’S THE CIA, THE NSA OR SOME
OTHER PART OF THE ALPHABET SOUP
OF WASHINGTON, D.C.
SO I DON’T KNOW WHICH OF THOSE
AGENCIES.
>> TO BE VERY CLEAR -- BUT,
ANDREW, TO BE CLEAR CLEAR, THE
MUELLER PROBE SOUGHT THIS
INFORMATION FROM DNI AND IRS, ET
CETERA?
>> SO I CAN’T GET INTO WHAT
WOULD BE -- I CAN’T GET INTO
THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION, BUT I
CAN TELL YOU THAT AS PART OF THE
MANAFORT TEAM, WE SOUGHT EVERY
POSSIBLE LEAD AND EVERY PIECE OF
INFORMATION.
>> YEAH.
>> CLEARLY --
>> COPY.
>> AS WE PUT IN OUR REPORT, WE
WANTED TO KNOW WHAT KILIMNIK DID
WITH THAT INFORMATION.
THAT WAS A CRITICAL PIECE IN THE
PUZZLE.
>> AND, ANDREW, YOU CAN’T BLAME
ME FOR ASKING.
>> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
IT’S YOUR JOB.
>> WE’D LIKE TO KNOW.
LOOK, YOU JUST BEEN VERY CLEAR.
I THINK VIEWERS CAN HEAR EXACTLY
WHAT YOU’RE SAYING.
I ALSO RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND AS
A FORMER PROSECUTOR AND
GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL HOW CLEAR
YOU ARE ABOUT WHAT YOU’RE SAYING
AND NOT SAYING.
I WILL SAY THAT WE NOW KNOW THAT
THE KREMLIN HAD THE INTERNAL
SECRET BLUEPRINT FOR HOW TO HELP
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN THE MOST, AND
THEY GOT THAT THROUGH AN
INTERMEDIARY WHO WAS STILL
WANTED BY THE FBI WHO GOT THE
INFORMATION FROM THE NUMBER ONE
OFFICIAL FOR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN
WHO DID ABOUT TWO AND A HALF
YEARS BEFORE ULTIMATELY GETTING
HIS COMMUTATION FROM DONALD
TRUMP.
IT IS ALL CLEAR OUT HERE IN
PUBLIC AND WHILE THE CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION IS OVER, THE
NATIONAL SECURITY IMPLICATIONS
AND WHAT AMERICA WANTS TO DO
ABOUT IT IS ALL OUT HERE FOR THE